Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/It Won't Stop

It Won't Stop

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Non-notable song. Per WP:NSONG, charting is only an indication that a song may be notable. The song lacks significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources as required by NSONG and WP:GNG. I have no objection to restoring the redirect. — JJMC89 (T·C) 16:42, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 (T·C) 16:42, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

~~The song seems very notable and it also lists a series of references. I have am objection to restoring the redirect. Musiclover46 (talk), 14 October 2016 (UTC)~~ sock edit struck--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 17:10, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Having references does not imply notability. — JJMC89 (T·C) 17:01, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
~~It has charted several times and has won a gold certification. Musiclover46 (talk), 14 October 2016 (UTC)~~ sock edit struck--Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 17:10, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: The article was recreated by a WP:SOCK of MrWriter245. — JJMC89 (T·C) 17:34, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I see JJMC89's point... the record has charted on the Billoard Hot 100 and gained a RIAA gold certification, which would pass two of the criteria for WP:NSONG. But on the other hand, there doesn't seem anything else to be said about the single. A redirect to the EP Call Me Crazy, But... might be the best option here, with the chart placings for "It Won't Stop" added to the chart section for that EP. Richard3120 (talk) 18:16, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning keep Chart hit, it's notable, i.e. something people would actually look up. There's one minor RS review there, I'd be frankly amazed if more don't exist. The reference chaff is considerable, but there's enough here to keep IMO with a bit of hacking - David Gerard (talk) 18:47, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per David Gerard. It has also been certified gold in the United States, thus strengthening its notability. —SomeoneNamedDerek (talk) 01:45, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources is required by WP:NSONG and WP:GNG. This has not been demonstrated – one minor RS review is not significant coverage. Charting does not imply notability per NSONG. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:29, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I added a few more reliable references to the article, including Billboard and Rolling Stone, among others. —SomeoneNamedDerek (talk) 04:17, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'm still not seeing significant coverage. Two sentences in Rolling Stone, an announcement in Billboard, and a MTV article that doesn't say anything about the song don't cut it. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:23, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NSONG states that a song is "have been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label." Coverage (doesn't have to even be a "significant" amount) on this charted single is enough for an article to be created. This single has also been released to urban radio and acquired a gold certification, which allowed for it to chart on the highly notable Billboard Hot 100 (this is also a possible criteria mentioned in WP:NSONG. Since you think there isn't enough coverage, here is a quick list of additional reliable sources:

National Basketball Association: http://www.nba.com/blazers/dorell-wright-plays-love-interest-sevyn-streeter-it-wont-stop-video/

Idolator (website): http://www.idolator.com/7506451/sevyn-streeter-it-wont-stop-remixes

Second Billboard (magazine): http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/5827387/sevyn-streeter-makes-crazy-debut-on-top-rbhip-hop-albums-chart

The Source: http://thesource.com/2013/08/29/sevyn-streeters-new-single-it-wont-stop-remix-featuring-chris-brown/

NPR Music: http://www.npr.org/event/music/338276926/sevyn-streeter-knocks-us-out

AllMusic: http://www.allmusic.com/album/it-wont-stop-mw0002565150

Vibe (magazine): http://www.vibe.com/2013/08/vixen-boombox-sevyn-streeter-feat-chris-brown-it-wont-stop-remix/

The Boombox: http://theboombox.com/sevyn-streeter-it-wont-stop-arsenio/

Singersroom: http://singersroom.com/content/2013-10-11/sevyn-streeter-it-wont-stop-ft-chris-brown/

Singersroom 2: http://singersroom.com/content/2013-05-23/Sevyn-Streeter-It-Wont-Stop/

The Urban Daily: http://theurbandaily.com/2013/10/11/sevyn-streeter-it-wont-stop-chris-brown-official-video/

Grammy Award: http://www.grammy.com/news/sevyn-streeter-wont-stop

Music Times: http://mstarsnews.musictimes.com/articles/20177/20131011/sevyn-streeter-ft-chris-brown-wont-stop-music-video-call.htm

Also, regarding your remark about the "MTV article that doesn't say anything about the song", I'm not sure if you have read the article. It talks about the song's music video, which is an integral part to include in the article. —SomeoneNamedDerek (talk) 05:20, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

- eh, I think we can have enough here that this article existing wouldn't be a disgrace - David Gerard (talk) 09:25, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  - Whether the article is a disgrace or not (your personal opinion) is not the point of the discussion; it is notability. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:23, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    - Notability has been established per WP:NMUSIC. You then argued it needed "significant coverage" as well. Please keep track of which argument you are using in a given thread - David Gerard (talk) 09:48, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - case closed, it's notable. Blythwood (talk) 21:33, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:ITSNOTABLE — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:23, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Blythwood: probably meant notable per above reasoning. —SomeoneNamedDerek (talk) 03:39, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]