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Archive 495

"Alexander American University" If i don't have many referral links to my website? then what should i do to create wiki page?

We have created a page called Alexander American University. We wanted to provide some information regarding this university to students. To submit it doesn't have many referral links. It is new. What should i do to create wiki page? Give us valuable suggestions. Venkatg889 (talk) 05:48, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Venkatg889. Your draft at User:Venkatg889/sandbox is written like an advert for the school, rather than a neutral encyclopedia article. Everything in the article should be based on what reliable sources say about the subject. Please see Wikipedia:Your first article for some tips about writing an article for the first time. Cordless Larry (talk) 05:54, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Your sandbox draft starts with overtly promotional language such as "being unique in itself emerges to serve the society by educating the determined, Intellectual and ambitious youth of today in the field of medicine who in turn will serve mankind". This type of advertising language belongs in a recruiting brochure, not in an encyclopedia article. Wikipedia articles must be written from the neutral point of view. A properly written Wikipedia article summarizes what independent, reliable sources say about the topic. Your draft article lacks such sources. Please read and study Your first article and completely rewrite your draft based on what you learn there. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:06, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

The article also lacks context. It reports that "AAU wants to create a warm and a friendly atmosphere to the students in the capital Georgetown". Which Georgetown is that? There are several. What country is the institution based in? Moreover, that wording and other bits such as "We at Alexander American University...", as well as not being encyclopedic, suggest that you might have a relationship with the institution, Venkatg889. If so, please read and follow the advice at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Cordless Larry (talk) 06:20, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Venkatg889. I'm afraid that, like many people, you have a misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is for. "to provide some information ... to students" is promotional, but this is an encyclopaedia. Wikipedia has essentially no interest in what the university (or any other subject) says about itself, whether in it website, in press releases, in interviews - or writing articles. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the university have published about it in reliable places, and an article about it should be based almost 100% on such sources. --ColinFine (talk) 09:08, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

How do you attach a Microsoft Word Document to a Wikipedia talk page?

How do you attach a Microsoft Word Document to a Wikipedia talk page? Gordon410 (talk) 12:13, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi Gordon410, you don't. Why would you want to to that? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:21, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

@Roger: I want to attach a document of a paper I wrote that is relevant to the discussion on the talk page. Gordon410 (talk) 12:29, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

It is probably best to upload it elsewhere and provide a link to it in the discussion on the talk page, Gordon410. Cordless Larry (talk) 12:33, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

How do you message another editor?

How do you personal message another editor? Gordon410 (talk) 12:10, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Gordon410, and welcome to the Teahouse. Every editor has a talk page. Yours is at User talk:Gordon410, mine is at User talk:Cordless Larry, etc. That's the place to leave a message for another editor. Remember that new comments go at the bottom of talk pages, unlike here at the Teahouse where they get posted at the top. Cordless Larry (talk) 12:31, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Gordon410 (talk) 12:33, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

It is also possible to e-mail some editors, if they have enabled that feature, Gordon410. See Wikipedia:Emailing users. However, in the interests of transparency I would suggest using talk pages unless there is a good and legitimate reason not to do so. Cordless Larry (talk) 12:37, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

MISS NAMED AMERICAN HERO

WHY IS THE ARTICLE ON MARINE SNIPPER CARLOS HATHCOCK MISS NAMED ADDELBERT WALDRON?2604:2000:B08D:FE00:49D7:C8CE:5FB2:397E (talk) 04:31, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

They aren't. Rotideypoc41352 (talk) 04:36, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Our article Carlos Hathcock includes no mention of another American sniper, Adelbert Waldron. Both are notable. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:47, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

If you still think there is a problem then please give a link to the page where you see it. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:02, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Also, please don't SHOUT. I very much doubt that anyone who is editing Wikipedia today has a keyboard that isn't capable of typing mixed case. Use it. Yes, it is work, but no more than typing is. Upper case only is universally considered SHOUTING on the Internet, and, in fact, is often ignored. Robert McClenon (talk) 12:59, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

My Wikipedia

I need the basic help of creating a page for this actress and model — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brifans (talk • contribs) 19:15, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Brifans. I suggest that you consult Wikipedia:Your first article. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:40, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Although if this is about Briana Roy, then please take into account the messages posted on your user talk page regarding your previous attempts to create this article. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:43, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Beginning

What are good things to do to get your feet wet inside Wikipedia? Tuomoseppanen (talk) 19:45, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi Tuomoseppanen and welcome to Wikipedia, depends what interests you...

If you want to learn the basics Play The Wikipedia Adventure

You can join a wiki project in an area you know/love Wikipedia:WikiProject

You could start anti-vandalism work by checking the recent changes Special:RecentChanges (also see Wikipedia:Vandalism)

Once you gain some knowledge you can pass it on by answering questions here or other places such as Wikipedia:Help desk or Category:Wikipedians looking for help

You can find other maintenance categories in Category:Wikipedia backlog and get fixing (I found Category:Articles with missing files with 12,000 entries and 100+ a day new that kept me busy for a couple of years)

Hit the Random link on the left menu and see if you can improve

Create new articles via Wikipedia:Articles for creation - see Wikipedia:Your first article

Oh look at Wikipedia:Community portal

Probably lots more but hopefully that should give you a few pointers :) All the best KylieTastic (talk) 21:21, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Infobox error

Dear all!

when I try to edit Kohat the following warning appears, in red.

Warning: Page using Template:Infobox settlement with unknown parameter "1" (this message is shown only in preview).

can anybody please fix this issue?

Finnusertop i need again your help.

Best regards

Aftab Banoori ^(Talk) 16:25, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

At first glance this looks like an error in the relevant module which produces the error message. I have raised the question at Module talk:Check for unknown parameters#False positive. I have taken the liberty of modifying your question to include a wikilink to the relevant article. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:27, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

There was a parameter that was missing the = sign between the parameter name and its value. I fixed it. Not a bug in the module. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:32, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Dear David Biddulph & Jonesey95

I am extremely grateful for your help
best wishes
Aftab Banoori ^(Talk) 08:02, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

new article submission

Hej there,

I have just created an article about a LED company, the first and the biggest LED distribitor in Denmark. My question is how do i submit it for revision and approval processes ? Thanks in advanced for the help! Ina Matronics (talk) 06:22, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ina Matronics , you simply add "{{subst:submit}}" including the double curly braces, to the top of the page. That will enter it into the queue for review. However as your username implies that you work for the company you are required to properly declare your conflict of interest by following the instructions at WP:COIPAYDISCLOSE. -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:36, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

when the earth was found?

122.161.244.108 (talk) 14:32, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't think that the question can be answered, but you might get a better explanation of why it can't be answered at the Science Reference Desk. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:05, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

I have a few template messages up.

Hi everyone,

I created a Wikipedia page for my boss, Zahra Noorbakhsh, with her full authority and permission. I got the template message for adding additional sources. I have 15 at the moment. Should I add more? What are some other changes you think I should make?

The page is here: Zahra Noorbakhsh

Hannah Alkadi (talk) 21:24, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

You have a conflict of interest. Please provide the conflict of interest disclosure and, if necessary, the paid editing disclosure. The basic change that you should make is to stop editing. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:17, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

However, since you have already created the article, you must still make the conflict of interest disclosure and, if necessary, the paid editing disclosure, if you want the privilege of editing anywhere else in Wikipedia, because if you don't, you are likely to be blocked. Go ahead and make the disclosure. You are welcome to add sources and information on the article talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:09, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Account

Hello Editor,,

I created account here (Wikipedia) three weeks ago. Up until date, my account is still incomplete. I uploaded my photo on the day the account was created, but my picture is not on my profile yet. My initial article was deleted. Is it the reason why my account is still incomplete? Please I want my profile to be complete. If there is anything lacking let me know so that I can do it.

Thank you. RobertNwad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RobertNwad (talk • contribs) 02:28, 22 June 2016‎ (UTC)

Hello, RobertNwad, and welcome to the Teahouse. By account and "profile", are you referring to your user page? If so, I see no evidence that you ever created User:RobertNwad or uploaded an image. Edits and uploads are instant. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:07, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

I replied at Wikipedia:Help desk#New account four days ago. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:00, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

It seems that you created a draft article that was speedy-deleted as advertising. Other than that, the only involvement that you have had with Wikipedia seems to be to ask this question in two places. What do you mean by wanting your profile to be complete, anyway? You may have a misunderstanding of what the purpose of Wikipedia is. I have posted a long welcome message to you with links to many policies and guidelines. However, Wikipedia is not a social network and is not a directory, and does not have "profiles" in the usual sense, and is not for advertising. If you have any questions, please ask them. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:13, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Draft:VeryApt

User:Dodger67 and I both reviewed Draft:VeryApt and declined it as reading like an advertisement. I then received this message from User:Alishaj98:

Hi Robert, I created the article about the company VeryApt. I closely reviewed all the wikipedia guidelines on NPOV and only wrote facts about the company in timeline format. I'm wondering why it is still considered to be an advertisement and how to fix it.

First, I would appreciate comments from other experienced editors as to whether they think that it reads like an advertisement. I agree that it is less promotional than some drafts that I decline as reading like advertisements.

Second, and this isn’t directly related to the question, and so is a little off the original topic, is it an advertisement, in the sense of being originated by the company? Does the author, Alishaj98, have a connection with the company? (Maybe I have been reviewing at AFC too long, but when I see a new editor edit one article only, I wonder if they are being paid and haven’t made the conflict of interest disclosure and/or the paid editing disclosure.) Robert McClenon (talk) 17:17, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Caught between differing reasons for decline

Hi there, I have spent hours reading the help/FAQs/style/sources/neutrality pages, and at this point would be enormously, immensely grateful for specific advice on exactly which parts of the article integrated landscape management need to change for this to be accepted. Happily, I do not need help with notability :-)

Both reviews mention the sources in the decline, but these are overwhelmingly peer-reviewed articles, many of which are secondary analyses of primary work (the others mainly support notability, showing take-up by intergovernmental bodies and international organisations). The second decline also says there must be no original thought (I can assure you, there is none, all I am attempting to do is summarise the published sources). In good faith I am doing all I can to be encyclopedic, and at this point do not know which bits are left that are still not in the correct tone.

I feel a bit trapped between the two sets of reviews: the first decline said I had to avoid using bullet points, outline form or being a how-to guide, and use paragraphs instead; having made changes, these issues no longer cause a problem for the second review, but it now says it reads too much like an essay. Similarly, the first review said I had to explain better why the topic is important (while being more neutral), but despite taking out anything remotely like puffery or peacock terms, the second decline still says it needs to be more neutral - I do not know what more I can do to be more neutral, without losing the changes I made in order to explain the topic’s importance.

I know you are very busy, but at this point I am truly stuck without a much clearer idea of just which bits of this need to change. Pathetically huge thanks for any help!! Hazel Gough (talk) 13:29, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

This is about Draft:Integrated landscape management. My own comment is that, after reading the draft, I have little idea what it is about. The opening sentence tells me what integrated landscape management involves, but not what it is. For example: if an 18th-century European nobleman, living in his private park and owning and drawing rents from all the nearby farms, arranges things so as to improve the views and the hunting, is he doing "integrated landscape management"? I really have no idea, and the article does nothing to tell me. Maproom (talk) 14:12, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

@Hazel Gough: Greetings and Welcome to the Teahouse! While I am no expert on this topic, I did update this article draft with copy-edits, particularly, remove "Introduction" section as that title is not needed there. The start of the article is the WP:Lead section and generally follows a standard format, with a max of 4 summary paragraphs. Also, I did try to simplify some of the section first sentences. It is important for our general Wikipedia reader to see at-a-glance a short explanation of each section's content that follows.

Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. Regards, — JoeHebda • (talk) 14:28, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Many thanks ::@Maproom: and ::@JoeHebda:. I will have a little think and address your very sensible points. (Oh dear Maproom, I'm sorry it's still so dense!) While I don't doubt this will improve the article, the points you raise aren't the same as the reasons for decline i.e. sources, neutrality, encyclopedic/essay tone. So I could still really do with some help on how to address those specific reasons for decline, as I would dearly love for this to be accepted next time around.

(BTW, I have struggled to come up with a clearer way of introducing the thing, as there are so many competing definitions out there, and no doubt their proliferation is due in part to the inadequacy of preceeding defintions, but I will most certainly see what better description there is, to set that 18th century nobleman straight.)Hazel Gough (talk) 14:43, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks again @Maproom: and @JoeHebda: for your suggestions. I have edited the article to try to make it clearer (i.e. the nobleman question) and especially to improve the lead section (very helpful link, thank you). I'll resubmit the article later today - but if you have time to take yet another look, and if you see anything that still leaves a reason for decline, it would be really wonderfil if you could please let me know. I'm a bit nervous about it still, as I'm not 100% sure that the changes to address your comments necessarily address the reviewer's reason for decline, but hopefully it will scrape through!!

Also, thanks for making some edits - I confess I only just realised these had happened, so am not sure whether any might have suffered in my general re-editing and review of the thing. And @Maproom: thanks for the 'See also' list: I deleted one that was less relevant and added some that are more relevant. Hopefully the improvements to the article will better explain why... Hazel Gough (talk) 12:16, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Hazel Gough: I've made some minor copyedits to the draft, but I don't think I've touched the 'See also' list. The draft is hard to understand because it uses familiar words, e.g. "silo", in unfamiliar senses, without explanation. "Landscape" may be another such word, I really don't know what it means in the draft. "Watershed" I figured out, as being used in what is, for me, not its most familiar sense; I tried to clarify this with a wikilink. Maproom (talk) 12:59, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks again @Maproom:. I've tried to explain 'silo' a bit better, replaced that reference to 'watershed' entirely, and added an explanantion of 'landscape' (though in this case, landscape is being used in more or less the normal way - it's just intrinsically hard to define and adding 'heterogenous geographic area' might only be of marginal assistance!!). Anyway, I've attempted to address your comments, JoeHebda's, and tried to do something to respond to the previous reviewer, though as per my original tearoom post, I'm a bit unsure what exactly to do there. I've resubmitted it so we'll just see what happens. Any more tips while it awaits rereview would of course be warmly welcomed, either from you, other tearoom helpers, or @LaMona:, who did the last review...Hazel Gough (talk) 14:50, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

So the "landscape" of the article and its references is what many people would call "land", as in land use. Maproom (talk) 16:15, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

I went ahead and moved it out of draft space to article space. Sorry if I stepped on reviewers' toes - if they feel I was being too bold, they could undo it. It's not perfect - a little jargon-y and too much bolding - but then many or most articles on WP are imperfect. Plenty of references. Novickas (talk) 16:37, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

It could use some improvement, but most articles here do. Specifically, there's too much bolding and some jargon - politically active people are used to seeing the word stakeholders, but it could be rewritten along the lines of "landowners and land users." To my mind, the United Nations Environment Programme article [1] and the 40-some book refs for this term [2] make it notable. Novickas (talk) 19:52, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Finding clean-up pages?

Is there any easy way to find pages that are in need of copy editing? SteelPanMan (talk) 23:18, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Yes. There is Category:Wikipedia pages needing cleanup. I recommend starting from October 2007(!) In seriousness though, if you'd like a slightly more manageable task you can join Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors - GOCE do a lot of fantastic work and have regular copyediting drives with a few articles you can focus on. Intelligentsium 00:06, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

I found good advice on finding articles you are interested in at GOCE here - you may be interested in the copyediting "blitzes" the project offers as well. Intelligentsium 00:10, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Greetings SteelPanMan – Another place to look for articles is at the Community portal, Help out section. The grid there shows nine different types of updates on a variety of articles, and that page is frequently updated. Regards, — JoeHebda • (talk) 16:18, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for visiting the Teahouse, you are always welcome here. If you have a special interest in certain topics and want to specifically copy edit articles that interest you, you can visit Project Pages. These pages represent groups of editors who work together to improve articles. See a listing of Projects here.

Bfpage |leave a message 19:54, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Help!

I already have different sources pointing at an article I've just created but the warning hasn't disappeared yet. Can anyone help me? The article is here. Joaofgaguiar (talk) 10:30, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Joaofgaguiar, and welcome to the Teahouse. Those warning templates are added and removed manually. If you look closely, you'll see a link called Learn how and when to remove these template messages. I suggest clicking on that. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:16, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Hello, thank you! I don't know if it'd good to delete the template because the page is considered for deletation. I already posted a comment on the proper deletation page to justify the reliability of the created page and nobody answered. how can I proceed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joaofgaguiar (talk • contribs) 17:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

It's nice to see you asking questions here in the Teahouse. It is not possible to remove the template that states that the article is being considered for speedy deletion. Someone will respond to your question on the page where you left your message. Can you tell me the name of the article that is being proposed for speedy deletion?

Bfpage |leave a message 20:01, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

I took a look at the discussion that is taking place concerning the deletion of your article. I am sad to say that I agree with the other editors who have comments there. Independent sources, unrelated to the company, must be used to support the content in the article. These sources would be magazines, news stories and other sources that are not part of the company. I couldn't find any to help you out. Perhaps, some time in the future when a newspaper or magazine writes a story about your company it might be considered a notable topic, but that is not the case at this time. I am sorry. Best Regards,

Bfpage |leave a message 20:07, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Help

How can I insert images and visual effects on my user page ?100 lion (talk) 10:29, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

100 lion, I recommend you start doing the thing we are here for, which is to create an encyclopaedia. When you have made a few hundred useful edits to articles, then you can start spending time starting up your user page. --ColinFine (talk) 15:19, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

100 lion thank you for visiting the Teahouse to ask your question. I am sure other editors have a similar question and are glad that you asked it here. I was just like you! I wanted to have a great looking user page. But then I found that it was using up too much of my time and so I went back to adding content to the encyclopedia. The way I found out how to make a user page that I liked was looking at the user pages of other editors, especially the ones that I admired. So take your time, and improve your talk page over time with some of the same things you see on other talk pages. If you want to add images, they must not be copyrighted, you actually can go to a different website called Wikipedia Commons. The images you upload could end up being very valuable in improving other articles. Some newer editors like you add images to improve the encyclopedia articles. Good luck and Best Regards,

Bfpage |leave a message 20:18, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

I am not code savvy so the way I brightened up my user page and talk page was actually by copying code from other editor's pages when I saw something I liked. I then left a courtesy "thanks". This is sometimes a very frustrating approach because of of my lack of coding experience here a single character can have major influences. ColinFine is correct in some ways. If you focus on editing articles for a while, you will pick up on the way that coding works on here, and in browsing around, you will see what other editors have done. Have a happy WP experience. DrChrissy ^(talk) 20:34, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Move page and update Logo

Would like some help moving a page and updating the logo. This is for a texas law school that just changed names. Brentkhiggins (talk) 20:37, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi Brentkhiggins I've verified the name change and moved the page. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:46, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi Brentkhiggins I've also uploaded and attached the new logo. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 20:53, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Polio Survivors Update

I need to update the page on List of Poliomyelitis Survivors. There is a brand new article that states why FDR did have Poliomyelitis, not Guillain Barre syndrome. I just need to know how to include this new, and better information. I am so new to this, any help would be appreciated. Thank you! Franklin Delano Roosevelt: The Diagnosis of Poliomyelitis Revisted: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.pmrj.2016.05.003

OB93 (talk) 01:02, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, OB93. That is an excellent source that you have discovered, and I agree with the point you are making. Back in 2010, another editor posted at Talk:List of poliomyelitis survivors, making the same point. My suggestion to you is to edit boldly, and move FDR from the people with doubtful diagnoses to the section listing people with confirmed diagnoses. Comment at that talk page as well. Include that article as a reference. See Rererencing for beginners for how to format a reference. It is tricky the first time you do it, but quickly becomes second nature if you stick around as a Wikipedia editor. And I hope that you will do so. You can use use the same reference in the appropriate place at Franklin D. Roosevelt as well, and other relevant articles. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:53, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I will try to do that edit as I do think it is the best information and needs to be updated.OB93 (talk) 02:11, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

German translated, and unsure if correct English reference?

Hi everyone! I have an issue regarding an article I'm trying to edit, Gerolstein. It has a reference to Stadtteile, (this is an article that is from German Wikipedia) regarding the place, which if I click it, it transfers me to the article for "Village". However, if I find the article Ortsteil itself on German Wikipedia and click the English version, I am lead to Quarter_(urban_subdivision) (Quarter (Urban Subdivision)). Quarter sounds much more correct in this case but I don't know a lick of German and don't have a clue. How should I approach this? Thanks to anyone in advance for help! --TheMusicGirl (talk) 03:37, 23 June 2016 (UTC)