Talk:JSP model 1 architecture

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Requested move 3 April 2015

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Model 1 → Java design model 1
Model 2 → Java design model 2

– Model 1 and Model 2 should be disambiguation pages. There are lots of other uses for "Model 1" (e.g. Smith & Wesson Model 1, Boeing Model 1, Breese-Dallas Model 1, and Austin Model 1) and "Model 2" (e.g. Smith & Wesson Model 2, Boeing Model 2, Federal Signal Model 2, etc.). The Java design models are definitely not the primary topic for "Model 1" or "Model 2". --Relisted. — Amakuru (talk) 14:15, 12 April 2015 (UTC) Faceless Enemy (talk) 16:08, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is this actually called Jave design mode 1 because if not we would need to use something like Model 1 (application) of (web application).--67.68.208.170 (talk) 16:34, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it might not be, see Talk:Model_2#This_page_is_misleading. Not sure what it should be instead though. Maybe "Model 1 (software architectural pattern)"? Faceless Enemy (talk) 18:44, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Strong rename to something. The current names are highly inappropriate as there are many models 1 and 2, many more popular and widely known than these. If nothing else, we can call them Model 1 (Java programming) and Model 2 (Java programming) -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:25, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to "JSP model 1 architecture" and "2" per this Oracle page. I know Wikipedia isn't hugely impressed by official names, but as far as I can divine from Google Search, they are actually in fairly widespread use and they are a good deal more descriptive than the current titles – if you are geeky enough to know what JSP means. Favonian (talk) 16:52, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment - @67.68.208.170:, @Faceless Enemy:, @65.94.43.89:, @Favonian:, and others, we have a consensus to rename, but no consensus on new title at present. Is there any chance we can resolve the issue of what to move it to? "Java design model 1", "JSP model 1 architecture", "Model 1 (Java programming)", "Model 1 (software architectural pattern)" appear to be possible contenders. Which would you support, and which would you oppose? Thanks — Amakuru (talk) 14:15, 12 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Strangely, I still think my own proposal should be preferred, if only in the name of precision. Java is a general purpose programming language, but the articles are specifically about Java web applications, so adding for instance a parenthetical "(Java programming)" is only marginally less bland than the present titles. Favonian (talk) 19:25, 12 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Strong rename how on earth did these pages stay sitting at these titles? In ictu oculi (talk) 18:14, 12 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]