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CSD rationale

This really isn't an article about Irish in England (which should be covered in for instance Status of the Irish language anyway), but about an organization that promotes Irish. Drmies (talk) 17:43, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because <>. —

Merge

I don't see how this should be an article in its own right: Languages of the United Kingdom, for instance, covers it already. Then again, the question is how much of this is really worth saving in the first place. The club now has its own article, Coláiste na nGael (I don't want to take credit for it; I think it should be deleted), and what's left are some data on the language and an inappropriate infobox (the article isn't about Irish, but about Irish in Britain). Drmies (talk) 22:21, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree; the article has (at most) three sentences relevant to the proclaimed subject, and the subject is already covered Irish language#Outside Ireland, and Irish language outside Ireland, as well as at "Languages of the UK". The place for information about Irish Gaelic speakers in Britain is there, so the logical thing to do would be to expand those sections (if there is anything more to say: Britain is not noted for its population of Irish speakers, and AFAIK there are few, if any, remote villages where "the Gallic" is the main means of communication. And I find the total of 95,000 for the UK a bit fanciful; there's but 91,000 in the whole of the Irish Gaeltacht). So yes, a merge would be fine. Moonraker12 (talk) 17:17, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I aqree that the article is redundant, but think the merge target should be Irish language or one of these mentiioned by Moonraker12, which can no doubt have a section on the extent to which it is spoken in UK. However, except a few expatriates, I suspect there are few speakers in Great Britain. Northern Ireland is part of UK, but not GB. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:51, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think this article should serve as a main article to the relevant sections in those article. 218.250.159.25 (talk) 14:53, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Move request

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved, reopen another RM after merge/Afd discussion is concluded Mike Cline (talk) 22:30, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Irish language in BritainIrish language in Great Britain or Irish language in the United Kingdom218.250.159.25 (talk) 17:39, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The word "Britain" is inherently ambiguous. Further there is another article on Irish language in Northern Ireland. 218.250.159.25 (talk) 13:11, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The words “horse” and “cart” spring to mind, though not in that order. The page is currently subject to a merge discussion (above), so debating whether it needs a new title is a bit premature. I would suggest closing this RM right now, and bringing it up again if the page is still here after the merge business is finished. Moonraker12 (talk) 16:57, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Article redundant

Information about the Irish language in Britain has now been included in the relevant section of Irish language outside Ireland. It is hard to see that this article now has any relevance.

Colin Ryan (talk) 22:00, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, because there is no differentiation in that article between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland (part of Britain). Ireland refers to the entire island, so Northern Ireland (part of Britain) is not "outside Ireland". Softlavender (talk) 04:20, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gaelic language

No mention of the presence of the indigenous Gaelic language in Scotland, which has been in intermittent contact with Irish for centuries.-MacRùsgail (talk) 15:21, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]