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Proposals, February 2011

More sport by countries

Wintersport bios

Various splits of ice hockey bios

Jurist stubs

Could use some pruning - though not oversized, it contains 504 stubs on its own. Might I suggest Category:European jurist stubs as a subcat? It would be populated by either {{Euro-jurist-stub}} or individual country templates. I'm in favor of the latter, but would consider the former as well. Thoughts? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:19, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Support principal, but are not existing templates for European countries at {{Foo-law-bio-stub}} in which case I would think we are better off sticking to using -law-bio-stub instead of -jursit-stub. Also I would suggest using national templates for ost nations with a {{Europe-law-bio-stub}} to mop up the countries with only a couple of articles. Waacstats (talk) 23:59, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Again it';s worth pointing out that the term jurist has different meanings on the two sides of the Atlantic, too, which may add to the confusion. Grutness...wha? 00:14, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
...I knew that. Sorry.
's what I get for suggesting stub tags while half-asleep... --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:21, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Looks like it could be useful, at least as a template - not sure about category yet. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:15, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Support template, category iff we get it to 60. Waacstats (talk) 23:55, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

More South American actor stubs

{{Peru-actor-stub}} and {{Colombia-actor-stub}} are both viable, though I don't think either will need a category yet. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:07, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy support based on precedant, and categories iff we have 60. Waacstats (talk) 23:54, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Amazed we don't have this yet. Category:Chilean actor stubs would be the category, if necessary (which it may be, actually...not sure yet.) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:01, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy support based on precedant. Waacstats (talk) 23:54, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

South Sudan stubs

As per the referendum of last month, Southern Sudan is going to become independent (as South Sudan) in July of this year. Is it too early to discuss creating stub tags for the new country? I don't see that we have any as yet. I think we'll need:

I can't imagine that there will be any others yet. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:46, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

  • Discussion's already started here. It's also mentioned on the Discoveries page due to the discovery of {{SouthernSudan-stub}}. I think it is still too soon to make them, since the name of the new country's still not been formalised AFAIK, but once it is it'll be a good idea to start, and those four make perfect sense. Grutness...wha? 21:33, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps I had misread, or it was misquoted in the media, but I think "South Sudan" has since been formalized. There was some comment about other names being bandied about, but not being adopted. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:57, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Well, if that's the official one, it'd be the one to use (just a case of finding confirmation, I guess...) Grutness...wha? 23:33, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
I have no problem with the idea here but our articles seem to use Southern Sudan at the moment so that would be where I would suggest calling the templates, better yet I think would be to hold off completley till we have a confirmed name. Waacstats (talk) 23:53, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Mind you, making them at one name with redirects at the other might make sense - we can always reverse the redirects if necessary. It sounds like the only names being used by the media and by the (Southern) Sudanese themselves are these two. Grutness...wha? 00:12, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
That of course assumes that they don't eventually decide on some other name. Waacstats (talk) 16:29, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

New politics categories

More political party country categories

Sport by country cats

Propose the following templates:

Dawynn (talk) 10:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:12, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

British sport stubs

As per the discussion below:

By constituent country (each to include relevant football club and sportspeople stub categories)


Sports venues with approximate numbers - categories if 60 threshold reached.

I'm not entirely sure how to sort English sports venue stubs - I was thinking to create templates for each region but many of the regions already have subcategories on the county level - but creating county level sports venue templates seems a bit extreme. SeveroTC 12:51, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

I think this looks good, I don't see any reason for splitting the English sports venues just yet, don't forget the bio stubs for Wales and NI Sports stubs. Waacstats (talk) 13:42, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Support all suggestions. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Permcat Category:Content management systems. At least a template is due here. Possibly able to support a category. Category to be built only if 60 articles found. Dawynn (talk) 15:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Tidying this up a bit and it looks like a {{Argentina-rugbyunion-team-stub}} would be of use, don't know for sure if it would hit 60 but would certainly get more use than any of the current upmerged templates (England, France, Ireland, Italy, Australia, NewZealand and SouthAfrica) though they are probably under used. Category:Argentine rugby union team stubs iff it gets to 60.Waacstats (talk) 15:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Not enough for a category as yet, but I think the above would be most helpful in at least helping out with sorting. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:56, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

I submitted two templates at WP:AFC yesterday, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Template:Old West-book-stub and Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Template:Old West-geo-stub, but was told to submit them here. I think they qualify under the second clause for "speedy creation" as a sub-category of Category:United States history stubs (see {{US-hist-book-stub}}). The vast majority of articles in Category:American Old West stubs are currently either books or historical locations. 72.74.206.120 (talk) 10:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

The geo stub cat would not be a good idea and given the fact that the parent only contains 47 articles I would have to say no to the book stub as well. Waacstats (talk) 21:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
I agree. Certainly geo-stubs only use current locations, so they should be in whichever state or subdivision of state that is appropriate, with any "Old West-stub" (how did it slip through with a non-standard name?) as a secondary stub type. In any case "the vast majority" is of a very small category. Soince the standard size of thinking about splitting a category into subtypes is around 800 stubs, there's no point whatsoever at present of even considering other templates - and when we do, they should be at names in line with the naming conventions for stub templates. Grutness...wha? 22:33, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Agreed with Big G. Aelfthrytha (talk) 02:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
"Big G"??? :) Grutness...wha? 05:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Sri Lanka geo

Cycling venue stubs

{{Afghanistan-geo-stub}} categories

More television stubs

Sport stubs by country

{{USSR-mil-ship-stub}} template

{{Software-dev-stub}} template

Upmerge template for Category:Software stubs. Some articles belonging in software development are misclassified in Category:Software engineering stubs, a more specific category, and I can't fix them now without losing specificity. (Main category is Category:Software development.) --Pnm (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

good idea, just not sure about whether to go with -dev- or -development- , dev could have other meanings. Waacstats (talk) 15:59, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Support either suffix...perhaps "development" would be better. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Needs clarification. I'm a computer programmer, and I'm even having trouble working out the fine line between {{software-dev-stub}}, {{compu-prog-stub}}, and {{software-eng-stub}}. OK, maybe software engineering is more of the higher-level concepts. But where do we draw a line between computer programming and software development? Please define how this new template would be used, and how its use would be distinctly different than {{compu-prog-stub}}. Dawynn (talk) 15:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Add {{programming-software-stub}} to the list of fairly similar categories. Although this one is specific to software used in programming. (But libraries are covered under {{compu-library-stub}}) Dawynn (talk) 11:48, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
The hierarchy is like this:
Examples:
In some individual cases the distinction may fall apart. Articles can go in more than one if it's really necessary. When specific subcategories are created, placement becomes more clear. I'm trying to fill out the bottom of the hierarchy so articles like Bus factor, Custom software development, and Point release can accurately be placed. They aren't part of software engineering. --Pnm (talk) 23:51, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

{{GUI-stub}} template

{{File-format-stub}} template

Upmerge template for overpopulated Category:Computing stubs. --Pnm (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

another good idea for a template that will hopefully help to cut down its overpopulated parent. Waacstats (talk) 16:01, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Tentative support -- I would start by adding such articles to Category:Software type stubs. Although there may be some use in subcategorizing out the file formats, this category was where I was dumping file formats when I was sorting these guys in the past. Dawynn (talk) 15:26, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
I don't mind if this is an upmerge template for Category:Software type stubs instead of Category:Computing stubs. However I don't feel quite right saying Archive file is "an article related to a type of software." The difference between software and a file format is obscure to some readers, and this inaccuracy would further confuse them. --Pnm (talk) 00:20, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Not enough for a full category, but it would help to break down Category:Canadian artist stubs. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:29, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Cycling stubs

Next set of television stubs

Individual state hotel template requests

A few more nudges

Catscan suggests over 250 articles that could fit in here and use {{US-sport-announcer-stub}} not sure what parents it should have though. Waacstats (talk) 22:40, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Does announcer=commentator? Grutness...wha? 22:52, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
I believe so. Waacstats (talk) 23:19, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Support - good idea. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

German and French Actors

Women-hist-stub

Life-peer-stub

More hotel requests

Differentiation for hotels

One more round of Category:Heterobranchia stubs templates

Television stubs

Flag stubs

New templates for Category:Opera singer stubs