Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TwistedBrush Pro Studio

TwistedBrush Pro Studio

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Digital painting software that does not appear to pass WP:GNG, judging by the arguments presented in the talk page discussion where the PROD tag was contested, and by the references presented in the article and found in a Google search. There are the usual mentions in WP:SPS and software listings, but apparently no substantial coverage in reliable sources. If nonetheless kept, the article would need a rewrite because it reads like an advertisement. Sandstein 05:54, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have presented many links to reviews of paint programs on the talk page of the article and in the external links in the article. Twistedbrush is ranked high in many reviews of paint programs. Please read through those links before deciding this issue. I have already suggested to Sandstein to tell me in what way this article reads like an advertisement so I and other editors can change that but he has not defined what parts of the article reads like an advertisement so we can change it. I can not see any difference between this article and the articles about Pixia, Artweaver, and many other paint program articles. My suggestion is to not delete it. Instead if user Sandstein thinks it reads like an advertisement please tell us in what way so we can change it. Roger491127 (talk) 06:20, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Does not meet WP:GNG even though it is mentioned in lists of graphics software programs. The program has not won any awards nor has it been singled out for non-trivial consideration in a magazine or newspaper article. No third party books have devoted paragraphs to it. Binksternet (talk) 06:50, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep. When Binksternet says it has not won any awards he is simply wrong. Look at http://www.pixarra.com/sketchbook_reviews.html and you can see more awards than I can count. (Twistedbrush was earlier called Sketchbook and the old name still lingers on some pages of the program's web site http://www.pixarra.com/ ) On the same page you can also find links to reviews. The link to mrswizard.com/ needs a more specific url: http://mrswizard.com/gem_twistedbrush.html. (Or you can do as I did, go to http://mrswizard.com/, choose Software reviews, choose Gems, Graphics, and you find Twistedbrush. And note that of the 13 programs mentioned in the section Gems-Graphics only one program, Twistedbrush, can actually be used for digital painting. PaintShop Pro was bought up by Corel several years ago and was transformed into a photo retouch program. The other Gems in that list are about screen capture, camera capture, web page creation, etc..) And Twistedbrush has been ranked very high by many independent reviewers, as I have showed in many links on its talk page. When it comes to magazines, newspapers and books I doubt you can find much about any paint programs except maybe for those made by the three big corporations, Microsoft, Corel and Photoshop.Roger491127 (talk) 13:02, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 19:54, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 19:54, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep. TwistedBrush is a program that has earned a high level of loyalty among its users, due to its versatility and responsive community, among other traits. It consistently has gotten strong referrals for several years, at least since 2007, in the publication PC Utilities, a British publication, which has noted its flexibility. The fact that a European source would be aware of it, and regard it highly as consumer friendly software, as a good resource for creative activity, speaks signigicantly of its tendency to impress those who test it. A view of the gallery of its users will be testimony to its graphic ability in producing quality digital art.

I have checked through the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Visual_arts, and the archive of earlier discussions there and I note that all the other discussions are about persons (artists). So I am surprised that software like the digital painting, and image processing, program Twistedbrush has been submitted to that discussion. The Twistedbrush article has also been submitted to the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Software where it fits much better, so I suggest that the Twistedbrush article should only be discussed in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Software which is the proper place to discuss articles about software. Roger491127 (talk) 04:57, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it is not being discussed on any of them, but rather here. Sorting simply reproduces the discussion on those lists to attract the attention of editors who may have expertise and knowledge of the subject, but any comment made will take place on this page regardless — Frankie (talk) 13:19, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]