Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rob L. Wagner

Rob L. Wagner

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Article about a journalist that fails to assert sufficient notability and which is an BLP that relies solely in primary sources. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:48, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I really hate this challenge. It is very difficult to source out biographies of journalists. This is clearly a good one, informative and seemingly accurate, for a veteran journalist and newspaper editor of 35 years' standing. Owing to what I consider a major defect in WP notabiity doctrine, it will probably end up being blown away for lack of so-called "reliable sources." It's very annoying, actually... Ignore All Rules Keep — use common sense for the betterment of the encyclopedia. Carrite (talk) 15:38, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment In many ways, I agree with Carrite's argument. On the face of it, Wagner appears to be a solid journalist with years of experience and a significant voice for Islam from a non-Islamic perspective. The problem with Carrite's argument, and the problem with the article itself, is that none of this information is verifiable. While it appears that Wagner has a great deal of credibility and influence, there is nothing to prove this. Based on the sources that are available, all we know is that Wagner is a former minor journalist and author writing about some minor issues in local California history who has gone on to be a prolific writer on the topic of Islam. Prolific does not mean influential, however. Evidence of such influence would really help this article. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:25, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:23, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – There are sources that show that this person is notable. Inter rest (talk) 20:24, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]