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Please convert this logo from .png to .svg

Logo of Bollywood Xplorer

Article(s): Bollywood Xplorer

Request: Please Please convert to svg. Thanks. Amanrajveer (talk) 07:38, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

Resolved

Request for "Armenian dram" currency sign (typography)

Resolved
 – DePiep (talk)

Article(s): See Armenian dram sign, Armenian dram, Currency sign

Request: Could someone create the "Armenian dram" currency sign?

Backgrounds

  • Clearly, it is a typographic character. It is not in Unicode (has no Unicode ID).
  • Armenian dram sign says: The graphics of the symbol is based on the shape of the first letter of Armenian word "դրամ" (money, pronounced as "dram"). This points to U+0564 դ ARMENIAN SMALL LETTER DA, or the upper case variant U+0534 Դ ARMENIAN CAPITAL LETTER DA. Main feature is the double stroke.
  • Design considerations, sketches and current usages (e.g. on banknotes) are provided in WP articles mentioned.
  • Currently, as an approaching image, a lookalike character is used, U+0534 Դ ARMENIAN CAPITAL LETTER DA.
  • Example, another currency sign by file only, not in font (yet): (Image:Indian rupee sign.svg).
  • Suggested name: since it is a currency sign, I suggest the filename to be "Armenian dram sign" (plus extension as appropriate). The word "dram" should be lowercase as it is a currency name.

-DePiep (talk) 13:04, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion(s): Is this correct? – Aditya 7  ¦  15:31, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Well, clearly the left parts of the double bar are cut off (missing). We could take that as a designers freedom (OK then). If a typographer, or an Armenian state writing guarding policeman, says it's not done, we should decline (not OK then). I say: OK, let's use it. It sure is better than the replacement alphabetic letter. If copyrights are OK, then upload it. -DePiep (talk) 15:46, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Here it is: Image:Armenian dram sign.svg Mark this section with {{resolved|1=~~~}} if you're satisfied. – Aditya 7  ¦  16:34, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Very nice. -DePiep (talk) 17:04, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request help making table look prettier

Resolved
 – MissMJ (talk)
Model A300 A310 A320 A330 A340
Previous designation(s) B10 SA1, SA2, SA3 TA9 (B9) TA11 (B11)
Introduced 1972 1983 1988 1993 1993
Body Wide Wide Narrow Wide Wide
Engines Twinjet Twinjet Twinjet Twinjet Quadjet
Range Short–medium Medium–long Short–medium Medium–long Long

Article(s): A330

Request: Make table stand out from the page, look more like a graphic or a table in Powerpoint. Note, the article this would help is in FAC right now. I would put this image at the very beginning of the body text. The Background and Development sections are pretty dry and confusing with all the plane types and with the discussion in a narrative, that includes name changes of the designs. I think a basic graphic, centered, at the start of that section would give the reader a little bit of a refuge if he gets confused about all the different planes and their names. My preference would be to keep it as a table, for editability, but add some formatting somehow, but it would not kill me to just convert it to an image.TCO (talk) 03:18, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):  Done Okay, how's this? P.S.: Minor nitpick, but it'd be great if we didn't assume that the reader of an article is male ("if he gets confused"). Women read Wikipedia too. *waves* :) -MissMJ (talk) 05:03, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you want it as an editable SVG image, how about this? Image will help avoid the clutter of a table.  – Aditya 7  ¦  05:18, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think making tables an image (SVG or otherwise) is a good approach to take. Firstly, although SVGs are editable, your average editor probably wouldn't know how to go about it, which will lead to a million edit and translation requests over here. Tables are much more easy to edit, and for translation purposes, can be just copy pasted with the contents changed even by someone who hasn't got a clue how table code works. Secondly, we have to consider the issue of accessibility. Unnecessarily locking away information in an image means screen readers will not be able to easily access it. A formatted table, though not as useful to someone who is blind as to those who are sighted, for example, can at least be read as text. -MissMJ (talk) 05:30, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Table is better for me on Wiki. Obviously if we were putting together an annual report or something then a finished image allows more prettiness. But this helps me if a year is off. Also, there are other articles with later generations of aircraft that would build off of this one (didn't want the later generations in this article, but A350 and A380 articles would have expanded tables.)TCO (talk) 05:34, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, TCO, I'm moving the discussion about the table changes from my talk page to here, so it can all be in a central place. I'm not sure what you mean about the "double-lining of the cell content" (the white borders, maybe? sadly the CSS wasn't doing what it should there), but once I centered it, it helped legibility to stretch the table, so I increased the width to 75%. -MissMJ (talk) 05:42, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks great! (I meant the line breaks within cells, but they're gone anyway, from what you did. ALL DONE! Merci beacoups!TCO (talk) 05:46, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I went and put a scoch more room in the left column as designation(s) was breaking into two lines.TCO (talk) 05:49, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh sorry, I have a really wide screen and my browser window ends up being really wide, so the table looked nice and airy from here. I forget that other people still have narrower screens. Oops. Marking this as resolved. :) -MissMJ (talk) 05:54, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]