Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2011/February

Proposals, February 2011

Jurist stubs

Could use some pruning - though not oversized, it contains 504 stubs on its own. Might I suggest Category:European jurist stubs as a subcat? It would be populated by either {{Euro-jurist-stub}} or individual country templates. I'm in favor of the latter, but would consider the former as well. Thoughts? --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:19, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Support principal, but are not existing templates for European countries at {{Foo-law-bio-stub}} in which case I would think we are better off sticking to using -law-bio-stub instead of -jursit-stub. Also I would suggest using national templates for ost nations with a {{Europe-law-bio-stub}} to mop up the countries with only a couple of articles. Waacstats (talk) 23:59, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Again it';s worth pointing out that the term jurist has different meanings on the two sides of the Atlantic, too, which may add to the confusion. Grutness...wha? 00:14, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

...I knew that. Sorry.

's what I get for suggesting stub tags while half-asleep... --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 00:21, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

{{Caribbean-actor-stub}}

Looks like it could be useful, at least as a template - not sure about category yet. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:15, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Support template, category iff we get it to 60. Waacstats (talk) 23:55, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

More South American actor stubs

{{Peru-actor-stub}} and {{Colombia-actor-stub}} are both viable, though I don't think either will need a category yet. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:07, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy support based on precedant, and categories iff we have 60. Waacstats (talk) 23:54, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

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Amazed we don't have this yet. Category:Chilean actor stubs would be the category, if necessary (which it may be, actually...not sure yet.) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:01, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy support based on precedant. Waacstats (talk) 23:54, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

South Sudan stubs

As per the referendum of last month, Southern Sudan is going to become independent (as South Sudan) in July of this year. Is it too early to discuss creating stub tags for the new country? I don't see that we have any as yet. I think we'll need:

• {{SouthSudan-stub}}
• {{SouthSudan-geo-stub}}
• {{SouthSudan-bio-stub}}
• {{SouthSudan-politician-stub}}

I can't imagine that there will be any others yet. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:46, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Discussion's already started here. It's also mentioned on the Discoveries page due to the discovery of {{SouthernSudan-stub}}. I think it is still too soon to make them, since the name of the new country's still not been formalised AFAIK, but once it is it'll be a good idea to start, and those four make perfect sense. Grutness...wha? 21:33, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps I had misread, or it was misquoted in the media, but I think "South Sudan" has since been formalized. There was some comment about other names being bandied about, but not being adopted. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:57, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, if that's the official one, it'd be the one to use (just a case of finding confirmation, I guess...) Grutness...wha? 23:33, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I have no problem with the idea here but our articles seem to use Southern Sudan at the moment so that would be where I would suggest calling the templates, better yet I think would be to hold off completley till we have a confirmed name. Waacstats (talk) 23:53, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Mind you, making them at one name with redirects at the other might make sense - we can always reverse the redirects if necessary. It sounds like the only names being used by the media and by the (Southern) Sudanese themselves are these two. Grutness...wha? 00:12, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

That of course assumes that they don't eventually decide on some other name. Waacstats (talk) 16:29, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Sport by country cats

As Waacstats predicted, speediable cats and {{Venezuela-sports-venue-stub}}:

• Category:Croatian sport stubs - {{Croatia-sport-stub}} (35) + {{Croatia-sports-venue-stub}} (31) + Category:Croatian football club stubs + Category:Croatian sportspeople stubs
• Category:Egyptian sport stubs - {{Egypt-sport-stub}} (31) + {{Egypt-sports-venue-stub}} (22) + {{Egypt-footyclub-stub}} (31) + Category:Egyptian sportspeople stubs
• Category:Malaysian sport stubs - {{Malaysia-sport-stub}} (36) + {{Malaysia-sports-venue-stub}} (35) + {{Malaysia-footyclub-stub}} (12) + Category:Malaysian sportspeople stubs
• Category:Singapore sport stubs - {{Singapore-sport-stub}} (40) + {{Singapore-sports-venue-stub}} (20) + {{Singapore-footyclub-stub}} (2) + Category:Singaporean sportspeople stubs
• Category:Venezuelan sport stubs - {{Venezuela-sport-stub}} (34) + {{Venezuela-sports-venue-stub}} (37) + Category:Venezuelan sportspeople stubs

Let me know if I've missed anything. Severo^TC 12:20, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Support, but for consistency "Singaporean sport stubs" would be better. Grutness...wha? 21:37, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Currently we have:
    • Category:Singaporean building and structure stubs
    • Category:Singapore geography stubs
    • Category:Singapore LRT stubs
    • Category:Singapore MRT stubs
    • Category:Singapore organisation stubs
    • Category:Singaporean people stubs
  • Severo^TC 07:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
    • That's not really relevant, since different subjects use either noun or adjective depending on the naming of the permcats ("Fooian bar" becomes "Fooian bar stubs"; "Bar in/of/from Foo" becomes "Foo bar stubs"). What is relevant though is that all other sport stubs categories use the adjectival form (Aergentine, Australian, Belgian, Canadian, Colombian, Czech, and 33 others), as do all the others proposed. for consistency, Singapore should match that with Category:Singaporean sport stubs. Grutness...wha? 09:28, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
      • I agree with G support all with Singaporean instead of Singapore (though I don't recall an Aergentine cat). Waacstats (talk) 23:33, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
        • :) Typing with a cat on my lap - I'm surprised it was recognisable at all! Grutness...wha? 23:47, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
          • I thought it was the cats that did all the work anyway! Waacstats (talk) 16:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Split of Category:European government stubs

Propose the following templates:

List of proposed templates

{{Andorra-gov-stub}} {{Belarus-gov-stub}} {{BosniaHerzegovina-gov-stub}} {{CzechRepublic-gov-stub}} {{Denmark-gov-stub}} {{Estonia-gov-stub}} {{Gibraltar-gov-stub}} {{Iceland-gov-stub}} {{Italy-gov-stub}} {{Latvia-gov-stub}} {{Liechtenstein-gov-stub}} {{Lithuania-gov-stub}} {{Luxembourg-gov-stub}} {{Malta-gov-stub}} {{Moldova-gov-stub}} {{Monaco-gov-stub}} {{Montenegro-gov-stub}} {{Netherlands-gov-stub}} {{Poland-gov-stub}} {{Portugal-gov-stub}} {{RMacedonia-gov-stub}} {{Romania-gov-stub}} {{Serbia-gov-stub}} {{Slovakia-gov-stub}} {{Slovenia-gov-stub}} {{Switzerland-gov-stub}} {{Ukraine-gov-stub}}

Dawynn (talk) 10:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:12, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

split of Category:Association football competition stubs

three currently upmerged templates have passed 60 any objections to creating the categories:

• {{NorthAm-footy-competition-stub}} - Category:North American football competition stubs
• {{SouthAm-footy-competition-stub}} - Category:South American football competition stubs
• {{Africa-footy-competition-stub}} - Category:African football competition stubs

Waacstats (talk) 23:02, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

S(up)port all. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:10, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - but perhaps to make them all (or certainly the North American one) "Foo association football competition stubs". Grutness...wha? 21:20, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

I have no problem with that but I think we need to look at all the subcats of association football stubs as the only Continents with any disambig are North America and Oceania and those are Oceanian football (Soccer) club stubs. Waacstats (talk) 22:24, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Just the NorthAm one, then - only having the word "football" is bound to cause confusion there. Grutness...wha? 02:25, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

British sport stubs

As per the discussion below:

By constituent country (each to include relevant football club and sportspeople stub categories)

• Category:British sport stubs & {{UK-sport-stub}} (to include Category:British sportspeople stubs, Category:English sport stubs, Category:Scottish sport stubs and Category:United Kingdom football club stubs)
  • Category:Welsh sport stubs & {{Wales-sport-stub}} ~120 (including upmerged venues - see below; also to house Category:Welsh rugby union team stubs)
  • Category:Northern Ireland sport stubs & {{NorthernIreland-sport-stub}} ~50 (including upmerged venues - see below)

Sports venues with approximate numbers - categories if 60 threshold reached.

• Category:English sports venue stubs ~286 – {{England-sports-venue-stub}} or templates on a regional level
• Category:Scottish sports venue stubs ~70 – {{Scotland-sports-venue-stub}}
• Category:Welsh sports venue stubs ~43 – {{Wales-sports-venue-stub}}
• Category:Northern Ireland sports venue stubs ~30 – {{NorthernIreland-sports-venue-stub}}

I'm not entirely sure how to sort English sports venue stubs - I was thinking to create templates for each region but many of the regions already have subcategories on the county level - but creating county level sports venue templates seems a bit extreme. Severo^TC 12:51, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

I think this looks good, I don't see any reason for splitting the English sports venues just yet, don't forget the bio stubs for Wales and NI Sports stubs. Waacstats (talk) 13:42, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all suggestions. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

{{CharacterEncoding-stub}} / Category:Digital typography stubs

Permcat for template is Category:Character encoding. Proposing to use this template along with the existing {{digital-typography-stub}} template to build the new category. Currently 45 articles under {{digital-typography-stub}}, so I'm betting we can find at least 15 more under character encoding for the new category. Dawynn (talk) 15:18, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

• Support --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

{{cms-software-stub}} / Category:Content management system stubs

Permcat Category:Content management systems. At least a template is due here. Possibly able to support a category. Category to be built only if 60 articles found. Dawynn (talk) 15:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

• Support --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:00, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

split of Category:Rugby union team stubs

Tidying this up a bit and it looks like a {{Argentina-rugbyunion-team-stub}} would be of use, don't know for sure if it would hit 60 but would certainly get more use than any of the current upmerged templates (England, France, Ireland, Italy, Australia, NewZealand and SouthAfrica) though they are probably under used. Category:Argentine rugby union team stubs iff it gets to 60.Waacstats (talk) 15:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

• Support --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:00, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
• Support. I'll have a look to see what else, if anything, can reach threshold. As far as upmerged templates go, it looks like a {{US-rugbyunion-team-stub}} and {{Canada-rugbyunion-team-stub}} would also be useful. There are also a lot of stubs for national teams of lesser rugby nations... Grutness...wha? 23:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
  • A {{National-rugbyunion-team-stub}} (similar to how we have {{National-footy-team-stub}}) would get 72 (and if so would merit a category Category:National rugby union team stubs). Severo^TC 06:51, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
    • Looks good I had forgotton about that footy template, should seriously help cut it down. Waacstats (talk) 13:43, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
• Update - I managed to get England up to threshold, so Category:English rugby union team stubs is now speediable... Grutness...wha? 09:59, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Well I've speedied it. Waacstats (talk) 00:10, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

split of Category:European ice hockey biography stubs

Again not 100% sure these will need categories but the following would both be useful (Catscan counts are not being much help as a lot of players are in by team categories which are obvoiusly also used on foriegn players of those teams)

• {{Germany-icehockey-bio-stub}} - Category:German ice hockey biography stubs
• {{France-icehockey-bio-stub}} - Category:French ice hockey biography stubs

Categories iff we get to 60. Waacstats (talk) 15:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

• Support --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:59, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Canadian ice hockey winger stubs

Three of the upmerged templates have passed the 60 mark propose the following

• {{Canada-icehockey-winger-1930s-stub}} - Category:Canadian ice hockey winger, 1930s births stubs
• {{Canada-icehockey-winger-1920s-stub}} - Category:Canadian ice hockey winger, 1920s births stubs
• {{Canada-icehockey-winger-1900s-stub}} - Category:Canadian ice hockey winger, 1900s births stubs

Waacstats (talk) 22:20, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• Support --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:59, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:American weightlifting biography stubs

enough articles have been found to push {{US-weightlifting-bio-stub}} above 60, any objections to speedying the category. Waacstats (talk) 18:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• Support none here --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:58, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

{{Réunion-bio-stub}}

Not enough for a category as yet, but I think the above would be most helpful in at least helping out with sorting. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:56, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Template:Old West-book-stub and Template:Old West-geo-stub

I submitted two templates at WP:AFC yesterday, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Template:Old West-book-stub and Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Template:Old West-geo-stub, but was told to submit them here. I think they qualify under the second clause for "speedy creation" as a sub-category of Category:United States history stubs (see {{US-hist-book-stub}}). The vast majority of articles in Category:American Old West stubs are currently either books or historical locations. 72.74.206.120 (talk) 10:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

The geo stub cat would not be a good idea and given the fact that the parent only contains 47 articles I would have to say no to the book stub as well. Waacstats (talk) 21:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Certainly geo-stubs only use current locations, so they should be in whichever state or subdivision of state that is appropriate, with any "Old West-stub" (how did it slip through with a non-standard name?) as a secondary stub type. In any case "the vast majority" is of a very small category. Soince the standard size of thinking about splitting a category into subtypes is around 800 stubs, there's no point whatsoever at present of even considering other templates - and when we do, they should be at names in line with the naming conventions for stub templates. Grutness...wha? 22:33, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Agreed with Big G. Aelfthrytha (talk) 02:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

"Big G"??? :) Grutness...wha? 05:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Sri Lanka geo

This may be a two-stage process including "superspeedying" at the first stage... Category:Sri Lanka geography stubs is waaay oversized (2200 stubs)... but that's because several of the provinces do not yet have their own subcategories. I propose:

• Category:North Western Province, Sri Lanka geography stubs (75 stubs)
• Category:Eastern Province, Sri Lanka geography stubs (75 stubs), and (wait for it...)
• Category:Central Province, Sri Lanka geography stubs (1700 stubs!)

The second stage, then, obviously, would be to find subcategories for Central Province. It's divided into three districts, which are each divided into an average of a dozen divisional secretariats. It seems very likely that the three districts at least should each have their own template (and probably category. That would mean creating:

• / Category:Kandy District geography stubs*
• / Category:Matale District geography stubs*
• / Category:Nuwara Eliya District geography stubs*

  (*assuming 60+ stubs)

Grutness...wha? 21:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. a.) it's not a bad idea, and b.) I think I may be responsible for some of that... --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:35, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Update - I've done the first part, but it looks like very few of the stubs for CentralLK have details of which district they're in... Grutness...wha? 23:01, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Cycling venue stubs

Propose speedy Category:Cycling venue stubs as {{cycling-venue-stub}} ended up with over 80 articles. Severo^TC 20:29, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy support, looks good. Waacstats (talk) 21:31, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:16, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

More television stubs

• {{Colombia-tv-stub}} ~37
• Category:Australian television programme stubs & {{Australia-tv-prog-stub}} ~335
• {{tv-term-stub}} ~30 (permcat: Category:Television terminology)

Severo^TC 12:55, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:17, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

{{Software-dev-stub}} template

Upmerge template for Category:Software stubs. Some articles belonging in software development are misclassified in Category:Software engineering stubs, a more specific category, and I can't fix them now without losing specificity. (Main category is Category:Software development.) --Pnm (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

good idea, just not sure about whether to go with -dev- or -development- , dev could have other meanings. Waacstats (talk) 15:59, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Support either suffix...perhaps "development" would be better. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Needs clarification. I'm a computer programmer, and I'm even having trouble working out the fine line between {{software-dev-stub}}, {{compu-prog-stub}}, and {{software-eng-stub}}. OK, maybe software engineering is more of the higher-level concepts. But where do we draw a line between computer programming and software development? Please define how this new template would be used, and how its use would be distinctly different than {{compu-prog-stub}}. Dawynn (talk) 15:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Add {{programming-software-stub}} to the list of fairly similar categories. Although this one is specific to software used in programming. (But libraries are covered under {{compu-library-stub}}) Dawynn (talk) 11:48, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

The hierarchy is like this:

• Software development — the business or organizational activity of developing sofware
  • Software engineering — architecting, designing, implementing, testing, and modifying software
    • Computer programming — writing and debugging source code

Examples:

• About box, Bus factor, Compile farm, Custom software development, Daily build, Point release
  • Archetype pattern, Code coverage, Coding by exception, Connection broker, Desktop metaphor, Inheritance (object-oriented programming), Model–View–Controller, Test case
    • Brace notation, Hello world program, Initialization (programming), Late binding, Method stub, Object copy, Taint checking

In some individual cases the distinction may fall apart. Articles can go in more than one if it's really necessary. When specific subcategories are created, placement becomes more clear. I'm trying to fill out the bottom of the hierarchy so articles like Bus factor, Custom software development, and Point release can accurately be placed. They aren't part of software engineering. --Pnm (talk) 23:51, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

{{File-format-stub}} template

Upmerge template for overpopulated Category:Computing stubs. --Pnm (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

another good idea for a template that will hopefully help to cut down its overpopulated parent. Waacstats (talk) 16:01, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Tentative support -- I would start by adding such articles to Category:Software type stubs. Although there may be some use in subcategorizing out the file formats, this category was where I was dumping file formats when I was sorting these guys in the past. Dawynn (talk) 15:26, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't mind if this is an upmerge template for Category:Software type stubs instead of Category:Computing stubs. However I don't feel quite right saying Archive file is "an article related to a type of software." The difference between software and a file format is obscure to some readers, and this inaccuracy would further confuse them. --Pnm (talk) 00:20, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Sculptor stubs

Surprisingly, very few of these are broken down by country. Now, the category isn't exactly oversized yet, but I think it could still stand work. So here's what I suggest: creation of all the following that don't exist yet.

• {{Albania-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Austria-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Azerbaijan-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Belarus-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Belgium-sculptor-stub}}
• {{BosniaHerzegovina-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Bulgaria-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Croatia-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Cyprus-sculptor-stub}}
• {{CzechRepublic-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Denmark-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Estonia-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Finland-sculptor-stub}}
• {{France-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Germany-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Greece-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Hungary-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Iceland-sculptor-stub}}

• {{Ireland-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Italy-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Kosovo-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Latvia-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Lithuania-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Luxembourg-sculptor-stub}}
• {{RMacedonia-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Malta-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Moldova-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Montenegro-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Netherlands-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Norway-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Portugal-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Romania-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Serbia-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Slovakia-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Slovenia-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Sweden-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Switzerland-sculptor-stub}}
• {{Turkey-sculptor-stub}}
• {{UK-sculptor-stub}}

Category:French sculptor stubs, Category:Italian sculptor stubs, and Category:United Kingdom sculptor stubs all exist, as does Category:Serbian sculptor stubs. The latter only has seven articles, and can be happily dismantled, I think. That should pave the way for a general-use Category:European sculptor stubs. Howsabout that? --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:24, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

{{Canada-sculptor-stub}}

Not enough for a full category, but it would help to break down Category:Canadian artist stubs. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:29, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

{{France-rail-station-stub}}

A quick look at Category:French rail stubs indicates that the above could be useful. I haven't counted, but eyeballing suggests that Category:French rail station stubs would be viable as well. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Support. Please, use the template. There are quite a few of these French stations that are using a category tag instead of a template tag. Dawynn (talk) 14:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Cycling stubs

• Category:Cycling team stubs / {{cycling-team-stub}} should get around 70.
• {{velodrome-stub}} or {{cycling-venue-stub}} has over 30 articles tagged as a stub in one way or another.

Severo^TC 21:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:04, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Next set of television stubs

• {{Philippines-tv-prog-stub}} (86)
• Category:New Zealand television stubs & {{NewZealand-tv-stub}} (130)
• Category:European television station stubs & {{europe-tv-station-stub}} - 99 for new template, 223 for existing upmerged templates and subcat Category:United Kingdom television channel stubs. Television station stubs is the particularly oversized one right now and only set to get bigger with a better sort.

Severo^TC 16:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:50, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Support. The New Zealand one's been on my "to propose" list for a while. Grutness...wha? 22:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Individual state hotel template requests

Asking general permission to create *-hotel-struct-stub templates for all 50 states and Washington DC, as needed. This will allow for appropriate upmerging to both the previously requested US hotel structure category, as well as individual state building and structure categories. Please review the names listed for proper naming conventions. Dawynn (talk) 14:41, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all - a cursory glance indicates that they're all present and correct. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

A few more nudges

Another group of sport templates nudged above 60

• {{Ukraine-figure-skating-bio-stub}} - Category:Ukrainian figure skating biography stubs
• {{Norway-handball-bio-stub}} - Category:Norwegian handball biography stubs
• {{NewZealand-cycling-bio-stub}} - Category:New Zealand cycling biography stubs
• {{NewZealand-swimming-bio-stub}} - Category:New Zealand swimming biography stubs

any objections to speeding these. Waacstats (talk) 20:30, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Looks like the Norwegian handball players aren't feeding right do scrap that one. Waacstats (talk) 20:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - none at all. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

split of Category:United Kingdom building and structure stubs

Have manged to spot / nudge 7 templates over the 60 mark so the following are speediable

• Category:Hampshire building and structure stubs - {{Hampshire-struct-stub}}
• Category:Wiltshire building and structure stubs - {{Wiltshire-struct-stub}}
• Category:Cumbria building and structure stubs - {{Cumbria-struct-stub}}
• Category:Northumberland building and structure stubs - {{Northumberland-struct-stub}}
• Category:Suffolk building and structure stubs - {{Suffolk-struct-stub}}
• Category:Essex building and structure stubs - {{Essex-struct-stub}}
• Category:Lancashire building and structure stubs - {{Lancashire-struct-stub}}

any objections. Waacstats (talk) 11:20, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Just adding 4 more

• Category:Staffordshire building and structure stubs - {{Staffordshire-struct-stub}}
• Category:Warwickshire building and structure stubs - {{Warwickshire-struct-stub}}
• Category:Gloucestershire building and structure stubs - {{Gloucestershire-struct-stub}}
• Category:Surrey building and structure stubs - {{Surrey-struct-stub}}

Waacstats (talk) 12:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Another 5

• Category:County Durham building and structure stubs - {{Durham-struct-stub}}
• Category:Shropshire building and structure stubs - {{Shropshire-struct-stub}}
• Category:Tyne and Wear building and structure stubs - {{TyneandWear-struct-stub}}
• Category:Herefordshire building and structure stubs - {{Herefordshire-struct-stub}}
• Category:Buckinghamshire building and structure stubs - {{Buckinghamshire-struct-stub}}

I knew I should have done these systematically because I keep loosing track of which counties I have already nominated, once these have cleared I'll go back and see what we have left. Waacstats (talk) 15:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Support all - no objections here. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:09, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Swedish sport shooting biography stubs

{{Sweden-sportshooting-bio-stub}} should be able to take over 60 articles according to catscan. Waacstats (talk)

Support --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 05:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Spanish tennis biography stubs

{{Spain-tennis-bio-stub}} has been nudged above 60, any objections to a speedy. Waacstats (talk) 00:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - none here. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 05:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

split of Category:Italian Olympic medalist stubs

the following two categories would be viable, they may leave the other parent a little small but should tidy up the above.

• Category:Italian fencing Olympic medalist stubs - {{Italy-fencing-Olympic-medalist-stub}}
• Category:Italian rowing Olympic medalist stubs - {{Italy-rowing-Olympic-medalist-stub}}

I don't know what it is with these two sports but I am trying to match other sports but not getting anywhere off current stubs at the moment. Waacstats (talk) 00:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Support. You'll find a lot of rowing stubs - there seems to be some kind of project working specifically on them, right now. Fencing, as I recall from newpage patrol, has been largely the work of one person. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 05:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

En Garde! Replace largely with completly. Lugnuts (talk) 14:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Mexican painter stubs

{{Mexico-painter-stub}} is in use on somewhere over 60 articles - time to speedy this? --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 00:33, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't see why not. Waacstats (talk) 00:35, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

split of Category:French Olympic medalist stubs

the following two categories would be viable, they may leave the other parent a little small but should tidy up the above.

• Category:French fencing Olympic medalist stubs - {{France-fencing-Olympic-medalist-stub}}
• Category:French rowing Olympic medalist stubs - {{France-rowing-Olympic-medalist-stub}}

Waacstats (talk) 23:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 00:32, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:American sports announcer stubs

Catscan suggests over 250 articles that could fit in here and use {{US-sport-announcer-stub}} not sure what parents it should have though. Waacstats (talk) 22:40, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Does announcer=commentator? Grutness...wha? 22:52, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I believe so. Waacstats (talk) 23:19, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - good idea. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 00:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

split of Category:American Olympic medalist stubs

the following two categories would be viable, they may leave the other parent a little small but should tidy up the above.

• Category:American sailing Olympic medalist stubs - {{US-yachtracing-Olympic-medalist-stub}}
• Category:American sport shooting Olympic medalist stubs - {{US-sportshooting-Olympic-medalist-stub}}

I'm not sure that the first one is correctly named but it is as good as I can come up with at the moment. Waacstats (talk) 21:13, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

split of Category:European fencing biography stubs

two templates have past the 60 mark

• {{Russia-fencing-bio-stub}} - Category:Russian fencing biography stubs
• {{Austria-fencing-bio-stub}} - Category:Austrian fencing biography stubs

any objections to speedying the categories. Waacstats (talk) 20:40, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support - I don't gots a problem with it. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

split of Category:Weightlifting biography stubs

Above is starting to get large and no individual country is above 60 articles so I propose splitting out European and Asian categories with tempaltes for major countries and continent level templates for those countries with only a few athletes. Waacstats (talk) 19:06, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

split of Category:Sport wrestler stubs

As above so below. This is starting to get large and no individual country is above 60 articles so I propose splitting out European and Asian categories with tempaltes for major countries and continent level templates for those countries with only a few athletes. Waacstats (talk) 19:06, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Soviet Winter Olympic medalist stubs

along with {{USSR-Winter-Olympic-medalist-stub}} should easily pass 100 never mind 60. Waacstats (talk) 18:27, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Support --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Women-hist-stub

Propose creating {{Women-hist-stub}} and Category:Women's history stubs as a sub-category of Category:History stubs. Some items might additionally be marked with bio-stub.

This is a stub needed for Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's History, which has identified 580 articles so far at WP:WMNHIST#Relevant_entries. ---Shane Landrum (cliotropic) 17:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

This might be better as a wikiproject talkpage template especially as bios aren't normally marked with a {{hist-stub}}. Waacstats (talk) 18:13, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Would it be more appropriate to split this into two stubs templates and related categories: {{women-bio-stub}} and Category:Women's biography stubs for biographical items, and {{women-hist-stub}} and Category:Women's history stubs for events, groups, laws, etc? If so, do I need to file a separate proposal for the biographical stubs? ---Shane Landrum (cliotropic | talk | contribs) 18:22, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure - we don't ordinarily create biographical stubs by gender alone. What sort of biographical items are you talking about? --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:00, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Several comments -

1. since we already have {{fem-stub}} for articles relating to feminism, perhaps {{fem-history-stub}} would be better? I realise the two topics are not identical, but there would be considerable overlap.
2. we've largely moved to using "history" rather than "hist", though hist would still be suitable for a redirect.
3. I'm not really in favour of a separate woman-bio-stub using that name, since it's likely that many editors will misiterpret it to mean "biographies of women". A {{fem-bio-stub}}, for people associated with feminist studies or historically with women's causes would be approriate, though. Grutness...wha? 23:02, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what the procedure is here, but just noting that I'd like to see this stub be created. It would be good to be able to identify articles about female historical figures, whether bios or not, that need to be expanded. They won't all be connected to feminism; in fact, most won't be.

The idea for the Wikiproject Women's History arose out of the recent efforts to increase women's participation and visibility on Wikipedia, so it would help to have a stub tag to encourage article creation and expansion. SlimVirgin ^{TALK|CONTRIBS} 07:02, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm just concerned that some editors might assume {{women-bio-stub}} would be used for all biographical articles about women. There'd have to be pretty stringent wording of both the template and category, and regular checks (similar to the way that WP:Judaism try to make sure that Jewish-bio-stub is used for people notable for their connection to Judaism rather than simply people who follow the Jewish faith). Grutness...wha? 21:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)