User talk:WebManAtTheNetShop

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Proposed deletion of Dr Paul Knapman

The article Dr Paul Knapman has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners or ask at Wikipedia:Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:45, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Dr Paul Knapman for deletion

The article Dr Paul Knapman is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr Paul Knapman until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:53, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

January 2011

Your addition to Dr Paul Knapman has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. nancy 08:56, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

Hello, Webman, and thanks for attempting to improve Wikipedia with an article about Dr Paul Knapman. I am sure you are a little confused about why you are getting so much criticism, warnings and such, when you have simply been trying in good faith to write an article. Please understand that you are welcome to post here, but what you post has to meet Wikipedia's guidelines. That includes not copying material from other sources. It also includes the WP:NOTABILITY guideline, and that's what the current deletion discussion is about. It appears that Dr. Knapman may not meet the particular definition of notability that Wikipedia uses, which requires that there be significant coverage ABOUT the person from independent reliable sources. His website is not an independent source, and the many news articles that mention him are not really ABOUT him.

Here is the place where people are discussing this: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr Paul Knapman. I already pasted into that discussion your comments from the article's talk page. If you want to continue to participate in the discussion, you should do it at this Articles for deletion link. Before discussing there, you might want to read WP:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions.

Please don't take it personally if the article winds up getting deleted; it's not about you or your writing. It's about Dr. Knapman himself and whether he is a suitable subject for an encyclopedia like this. And regardless of the outcome I hope you will continue to use and edit Wikipedia. It can be a good idea for a beginner to start out by reading and editing other articles, to get a feel for the place, rather than jumping right into creating a new article yourself.

If you want any further guidance you can click on the "talk" link after my signature. I need to warn you, I have voted to delete the article. But I felt like your reception here has been a little harsh - so I wanted to let you know what is really going on, and to make it clear that you and your contributions are welcome here.--MelanieN (talk) 23:54, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Help with your article

Hi WebManAtTheNetShop, Just by chance I saw your message, so am offering some help. In future, if you want people to come help you here, type {{helpme}} on this talk page - then a team of helpers will be automatically notified.

It seems your article was deleted because people decided it Dr Knapman didn't meet the notability guidelines for inclusion Wikipedia:Notability (people) and Wikipedia:Notability (academics). Note that our rules are a lot stricter concerning biographies of living people than for any other subject (mostly to avoid harming living people with possibly unreliable articles) so you've unwittingly stepped into a bit of a bear pit.

Please read the guidelines and check you're confident that he meets the requirements. If so and you're determined to continue, here's what happens next.

Do not recreate the article exactly the same as before, as the rules say that re-created deleted articles just get speedily deleted. You'll need to create the article in your own userspace and then work on it until you've addressed the concerns raised by people above and at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dr_Paul_Knapman. Then ask for feedback (from me, MelanieN above, or at wp:rff) to check it's ready to move to the article space.

If you need a copy of the deleted article as a starting point to work on, you can try asking here Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. Ask for it to be userified: they won't necessarily grant the request, but I'm encouraged by the fact that the closing administrator said "The result was delete. I think we need actual sources but this can come back as soon as someone finds some."

Good luck --Physics is all gnomes (talk) 16:36, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

HelpMe

helpme with my Dr Paul Knapman Article, I am absolutely confident that I have enough source information in accordance with your guidelines but dont sem to be able to get this in the right format, any help with this would be appreciated. I have started the article in my userspace so as not to publish it straight away.Rather get it right first.

Splendid job. It is now at Paul Knapman. DS (talk) 17:23, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou

Physics is all gnomes Thank you for your help I have done as you suggested lets see what happens

User:WebManAtTheNetShop

Cool, I see it's gone live :) I've given it a bit of a touch-up, hopefully it should be okay. Looks like you'd already written the userspace draft when I sent you my previous message, so sorry if some of the advice was a bit unneccessary!--Physics is all gnomes (talk) 13:59, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

PS. It's best to sign your posts on talk pages so people know who said it and at what time. This is done by clicking on the little blue pencil icon at the top of the edit box. It adds some text that looks like this --~~~~ which then magically turns into a signature.--Physics is all gnomes (talk) 14:02, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to all

Thanks to all of you that helped me with my first article 'Paul Knapman' i see I did pick a rather difficult one for my first attempt

--WebManAtTheNetShop (talk) 14:58, 18 March 2011 (UTC)WebManAtTheNetShop[reply]