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British local authority changes

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– DyceBot (talk) 07:03, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Applies to all subpages of List of civil parishes in England (47 counties) and to List of communities in Wales (8 preserved counties). Also applies to the articles on those counties, and on Northern Ireland and the Scottish local authorities. The six metropolitan counties in England already have maps showing the former local authorities and the two-tier structure created in 1974 (examples shown below).

There is some discussion at User talk:Lozleader/Archive 2#How are these? and User talk:Lozleader/Archive 2#County Borough of Leeds which may help to provide sources. I realise this is likely to be a massive project, and is not likely to be achieved in a short timescale.

Tyne and Wear
Greater Manchester
West Midlands
West Yorkshire
South Yorkshire
Merseyside

Article(s): Maps are required for Avon; Bedfordshire; Berkshire; Borders; Buckinghamshire; Cambridgeshire; Central; Cheshire; Cleveland; Clwyd; Cornwall; Cumbria; Derbyshire; Devon; Dorset; Dumfries and Galloway; Durham; Dyfed; East Sussex; Essex; Fife; Gloucestershire; Grampian; Greater London; Gwent; Gwynedd; Hampshire; Hereford and Worcester; Hertfordshire; Highland; Humberside; Isle of Wight; Kent; Lancashire; Leicestershire; Lincolnshire; Lothian; Mid Glamorgan; Norfolk; North Yorkshire; Northamptonshire; Northern Ireland; Northumberland; Nottinghamshire; Orkney; Oxfordshire; Powys; Shetland; Shropshire; Somerset; South Glamorgan; Staffordshire; Strathclyde; Suffolk; Surrey; Tayside; Warwickshire; West Glamorgan; West Sussex; Western Isles; and Wiltshire.

Maps of the subsequently revised counties would also be useful: Aberdeen; Aberdeenshire; Angus; Bedfordshire; Berkshire; Blaenau Gwent; Bridgend; Bristol; Caerphilly; Cardiff; Carmarthenshire; Ceredigion; Cheshire; Clackmannanshire; Conwy; Denbighshire; Dundee; Durham; East Ayrshire; East Lothian; East Renfrewshire; East Riding of Yorkshire; Edinburgh; Falkirk; Flintshire; Glasgow; Gloucestershire; Gwynedd; Herefordshire; Inverclyde; Isle of Anglesey; Kent; Leicestershire; Lincolnshire; Merthyr Tydfil; Midlothian; Monmouthshire; Moray; Neath Port Talbot; Newport; North Ayrshire; North Lanarkshire; North Yorkshire; Pembrokeshire; Perth and Kinross; Powys; Renfrewshire; Rhondda Cynon Taf; Rutland; Scottish Borders; Shropshire; Somerset; South Ayrshire; South Lanarkshire; Stirling; Swansea; Torfaen; Vale of Glamorgan; West Lothian; Worcestershire; and Wrexham (some of these are very small differences).

Request: Create according to the provided sources... Skinsmoke (talk) 09:54, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to ask User:Nilfanion, who is using OS OpenData to generate a large number of maps relating to Great Britain administrative boundaries. In particular, see commons:User:Nilfanion/Maps. (Also discussed at Wikipedia talk:UK Wikipedians' notice board#Locator maps from OS opendata and Template talk:Infobox UK place#New maps.) I don't know whether Nilfanion is already involved with Wikipedia:Graphic Lab, so apologies if this confuses established the established wikigraphist procedure! — Richardguk (talk) 00:41, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. I've asked him to have a look at this page and see if he is able to help. Skinsmoke (talk) 07:26, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I can't really do a great deal to help here, as OpenData info only contains current boundaries. In some (many?), but not all, cases the old boundaries can be constructed from the modern boundaries (I have data for districts, constituencies, parishes, electoral divisions and wards). For example, the Cornish districts abolished in 2009 could be extracted from the parish data, but the ~1970 boundary of Chester-le-Street Rural district is "lost". I also don't have access to the information needed to draw the boundaries. Therefore, all I can really do to help is upload the blank modern maps to enable others to build on them.

One comment I would have, is how do you want to address changes in the county boundaries. For example, Werrington, Cornwall was in Devon until 1974 (I think), should it be shown on the maps for both counties?--Nilf anion (talk) 08:06, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd keep it on the new district/county. After all, none of the parishes/urban districts/boroughs were in the metropolitan counties prior to 1974; Cumbria was similarly constructed at that time, and the Oxfordshire/Berkshire boundary changed substantially; the Welsh authorities were all "new"; Suffolk and Lincolnshire were merged from their component parts, etc.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Skinsmoke (talk • contribs) 16:55, 7 October 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Actually I think the request is too limiting compared to what should be done. The area boundaries are constantly evolving (eg these amendments in 1990). Whilst a full sequence, with all the minor tweaks isn't important there are several stages which would benefit from illustrating. The most obvious nationally are 1889 and 1974, but on a more localised basis more maps would be good: For example, 2009 before the recent large unitary councils, 1965 before Greater London was created - in the case of London I'd say 1965 is more significant than 1974. Given that all of these would be of significant value it would be worth enumerating more clearly what it is you want - just taking one snapshot comparing the pre-1974 situation to today seems inadequate.--Nilf anion (talk) 21:41, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'd taken it as read that 1965 was the key date for Greater London (and 1976, I think, for Scotland). 1889 is a key date because of the creation of modern counties and county boroughs, but 1894 is probably more significant as that was the date that urban districts and rural districts were created from the former urban sanitary districts and rural sanitary districts. We already have maps that illustrate the 1974–2009 districts compared to the super-unitaries, so that isn't really as urgent, though ultimately something with the same style throughout would be good. There were other key dates (1968 saw the creation of the large county boroughs in West Midlands, along with Torbay and Teeside for example, and I think that was also the year of wholesale change in Shropshire, where large rural districts were created. There were substantial changes also in the 1930s, when many smaller rural districts and urban districts vanished as a result of county reviews. However, don't you think we should learn to walk before we try to run? We already have a start made on the 1974 changes, and it would be useful to have those extended to cover the whole country (with the proviso that we are talking about the equivalent dates for Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and Greater London) before we launch onto another major project. Skinsmoke (talk) 23:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah - that's clearer on the important dates. That said, in a sense the stumbling block here is the data not quantity. One option would be to utilise the old maps available at http://visionofbritain.org.uk . This map of Lancs is PD so could be uploaded, and it should be "simple" to trace to boundaries and convert to a simple png like the existing maps.--Nilf anion (talk) 09:24, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Anschluss

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Article(s): Anschluss

Request: English version please... Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:12, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried contacting the original uploader, it might be easier for him to do a translation. P. S. Burton (talk) 10:49, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His userpage clearly states "en:2-This user is able to contribute with an intermediate level of English." This is the appropriate place to bring it.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 23:12, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What I meant is that he probably still has the original svg or psd file on his harddrive. Working with that file would be easier, because that would mean that the map won't have to be redrawn from scratch just to change the labels. P. S. Burton (talk) 16:39, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Request taken by P. S. Burton.: I will give it a try. P. S. Burton (talk) 18:47, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done Can you please check if I forgot something, or mistranslated something, before I add it to the article. P. S. Burton (talk) 21:43, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That is a huge amount of work on your part, thank you! Two quickies:

It literally says "Russian Soviet", but in English it becomes "Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic" or "Russian SFSR", whichever you have space for. :)
Ungarn in the infobox=Hungary

Thank you again!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:18, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I found one mistake, but maybe it's deliberate: Fiume (Rijeka) should stay like that, as it was only transferred to Yugoslavia and renamed Rijeka until after WWII. Richardprins (talk) 20:51, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. P. S. Burton (talk) 21:37, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Italy

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Article(s): Italy

Request: lettering is beautiful but unencyclopedic. can we wikify it? Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): Have you tried contacting the original author? Also note that this map is part of a series (highly laudable, IMHO), all of which feature distinctive fonts. Classical geographer (talk) 09:39, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I also think this one is fine as is. Kmusser (talk) 16:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this map should not be changed. P. S. Burton (talk) 03:27, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Antarctica

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Article(s): Antarctica

Request: remove border and top caption per WPMOS... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 10:36, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Belgium-Congo relations

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Article(s): Belgium-Congo relations

Request: Need an introductory map for this as per other such relations pages. Thanks. Lihaas (talk) 14:33, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): Make a choiche between the model shown in Belgium-Canada relations (without circles), and the one shown in Belgium-Mexico relations (with circle around the more little country). Normally, the country shown in green is the first by two in alphabetical order, so in this case Belgium will be green.Ciaurlec (talk) 16:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done Ciaurlec (talk) 19:06, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indonesia-Netherlands relations

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Article(s): Indonesia-Netherlands relations

Request: Per above, also need an introductory map for this. Thanks again. Lihaas (talk) 16:42, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):As for the previous request make a choiche between the model shown in Canada–Netherlands relations (without circles), and the one shown in Japan–Netherlands relations (with circle around the more little country). here you have to specify if netherlands Antilles have to be coloured or not. PS. I'm a beginner, please be patient ;-) Ciaurlec (talk) 16:42, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

not my request; but I do have an opinion: I could hardly see NL in the Canada-NL variant, so prefer the circles. And relationships are always of teh kingdom of the Netherlands, so should inculde also the Caribbean part of the Kingdom. But Lihaas has the last word on this... L.tak (talk) 16:46, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I personally think its silly to include that, we dont have Diego Garcia and the Falklands for the UK or the Carib./Pacific French territories. (think it should go from that page too). But it doesnt really bother me either way.Lihaas (talk) 16:42, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done Ciaurlec (talk) 19:06, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2018 FIFA World Cup

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Article(s): 2018 FIFA World Cup

Request: We need a map of the location cities of the stadia in Russia akin to 2022 FIFA World Cup#Venues Lihaas (talk) 18:09, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s): Article(s): 2018 FIFA World Cup

Request: Since the FIFA World Cup hosts were announced yesterday, I took a look at the 2018 FIFA World Cup page, and was not very happy with the map, which had been done on the basis of your “Location map+ |Russia”. The reason for this is that all of the proposed host cities are in European Russia, and the in present map the locations are rather crowded, and one does not get a good idea of where the host cities are located.

I thought that if there was a map showing European Russia, things would be much more clear and the map would be more informative.

Could someone do a “Location map+ | European Russia”, which could be used for the 2018 FIFA World Cup page?

I did send a note to I did send a note to Амба about this, since he/she is the author of the above mentioned map of Russia. about this, since he/she is the author of the above mentioned map of Russia.

Below is the current map in the article 2018 FIFA World Cup.

Trud

Zenit

Baltika

Severny

Rubin

Shinnik

Metallurg

Central (Vlg)

Start

Krasnodar

Olympic

Rostov-on-Don

Central (Ykb)

Moscow

Moscow stadiums:
Dynamo
Luzhniki
Spartak

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Location of stadiums in 2018 FIFA World Cup

Apanuggpak (talk) 18:39, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Амба made the template, but not the map, that was me,me,me. ;-) I made a new map and a new template:

Trud

Zenit

Baltika

Severny

Rubin

Shinnik

Metallurg

Central (Vlg)

Start

Krasnodar

Olympic

Rostov-on-Don

Central (Ykb)

Moscow

Moscow stadiums:
Dynamo
Luzhniki
Spartak

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Location of stadiums in 2018 FIFA World Cup

greetings, Uwe Dedering (talk) 22:31, 5 December 2010 (UTC) Done[reply]

Awesome, you're the man. I'm so gonna use this (in the Spanish Wikipedia, which it's where I come from) Dove (talk) 17:06, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]