Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julian Field (programmer)

Julian Field (programmer)

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Appears not to meet criteria for notability under WP:GNG, WP:PROF and WP:NRVE. There is also COI - User talk:JulesFM is the creator and major contributor to the article. Kudpung (talk) 15:21, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. -- Kudpung (talk) 15:35, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. -- Kudpung (talk) 15:36, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. -- Kudpung (talk) 15:36, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Failed to find significant coverage in sources independent of the subject, under WP:BIO. Ray^Talk 16:19, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as clearly above. Xxanthippe (talk) 23:06, 1 November 2010 (UTC).[reply]
Keep - author of a notable software system. —Tim Pierce (talk) 03:51, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's interesting. Can you give sources? Xxanthippe (talk) 04:23, 2 November 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Here are a few: [1] [2] [3] —Tim Pierce (talk) 16:07, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am afraid these are totally inadequate. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:35, 2 November 2010 (UTC).[reply]

You are of course entitled to your opinion. I think that they are sufficient to confirm that Julian is the principal author and maintainer of MailScanner, which is evidently notable. —Tim Pierce (talk) 22:11, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Which of the notability categories is satisfied? None of the WP:Prof categories are. The MailScanner page looks like an advertisement itself. Xxanthippe (talk) 05:58, 3 November 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Yes, totally inadequate as per WP:RS. They were already examined and immediately discounted before this AfD was posted. The sources are clearly neither independent nor biographical of the subject.--Kudpung (talk) 06:58, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Xxanthippe: I think it passes WP:GNG. I don't believe that WP:PROF applies here; Julian Field does not appear to be an academic. He works at a university, but not in a research capacity. You may be right that the MailScanner article is overly promotional, but that seems to be a separate matter from establishing notability for Julian Field. —Tim Pierce (talk) 18:34, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kudpung: IMHO the sources are sufficient to confirm that Julian Field is the author of MailScanner, and by that metric I recommend "keep." I agree that more reliable sources are needed for any meaningful biographical information. —Tim Pierce (talk) 18:37, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]