Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop/Archive/Sep 2010
Stale
Lion and Sun

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Vectorized, with color.
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Black and white trace
Article(s): Lion and Sun
Request: vectorize... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:08, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
- These are complex! I traced the second image in black and white to get your thoughts before I attempt to colorize it. ℳono 22:53, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- As these images are not "simple", I did a rough trace. The files are large, as the root image is detailed. I hope this helps, however, it's far from perfect. ℳono
- These are fantastic, much better than I had hoped! Thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:45, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Please finish coloring! :)--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 03:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Resolved
Logo of IPL and CLT20

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Article(s): Indian Premier League and Champions League Twenty20
Request: Redraw as SVG.--Kkm010 | Talk with me 12:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
There's a discussion right now on the talk page about requests similar to this. No consensus has been reached on wording as yet, but since you are posting a number of requests of this nature, I'll post the latest proposed text here for you to have a look at. The discussion is at this link....
The vector versions of non-free images like company logos and other items need careful handling. Graphists at the lab cannot always convert a raster file (JPEG, GIF or PNG) to SVG. A manual re-draw of the logo is likely to result in an inaccurate version of the logo and this may lead to copyright violation! Thus, searching for an official version of the vector image is very important. Often, the vector version of a company logo is posted on the company's website such as an SVG, AI, CDR or EPS file. In other instances, vector logos can be found embedded within PDF documents since PDFs support vector graphics. Using the advanced search option in Google, can help finding PDF documents (Use the "File type" and "Search within a site or domain" tools). To confirm the presence of a vector logo in a PDF file, zoom several times into the logo and check for the absence of pixels. Upon finding a PDF with vector logo, use a vector graphic editor such as Inkscape to extract the vector file from the PDF source. If you do not know how to do this using a vector graphic editor, make a request here at the lab and include the URL of the PDF source or other vector source. A graphist will assist you in the process.
Begoontalk 18:18, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
how long shall it take to convert into svg format.--Kkm010 | Talk with me 14:41, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'll take a look, but no promises. Connormah 15:02, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Not done - cannnot locate any official vector sources, sorry. Connormah 21:53, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Done [for IPL]: Manual trace of GIF image. gringer (talk) 04:40, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
The second logo cannot be converted by hand and maintain its integrity. I would also note that that is an outdated logo, a 2010 version uses the color of the South African flag instead of the Indian one. §hepTalk 23:13, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Logo of Television News channel

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Article(s): BBC World News and CNN International
Request: Vectorize.--Kkm010 | Talk with me 09:58, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Done The BBC logo, that look okay? §hepTalk 01:51, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
- As for the CNN one, I highly doubt a vector exists - it'd simply be too complex as the globe is a raster image. The PNG is fine. Connormah 03:22, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
- Please give a try I'm sure you can do it. The svg format of CNN logo can't be found its hard to believe.--Kkm010 | Talk with me 06:17, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
- If you can show me a vector version of the CNN international logo hidden in a PDF somewhere I'd be happy to rip it and convert it. Connormah is right that creating the globe in SVG by hand would be difficult and most likely result in some legality issues. The CNN logo as a raster is only being used on 2 pages and they both look fine/not pixelated. §hepTalk 18:04, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
- You could embed the globe as a raster image in the SVG file. gringer (talk) 12:54, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
- True, but I think the PNG is fine - the file would probably be huge as well with an embedded raster. Connormah 19:46, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
- Please give a try I'm sure you can do it. The svg format of CNN logo can't be found its hard to believe.--Kkm010 | Talk with me 06:17, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Done: Added SVG file with embedded PNG (screenshot from NASA World Wind). I could reduce the size of this if necessary, because at the nominal resolution, the globe's got about 3 times the resolution it needs to. gringer (talk) 07:48, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Two issues. One is that I see nothing gained from having vector letters when the rasters scale well. Second is that the globe image is different from what CNN uses, using a different one most likely infringes on whatever rights they hold to the image. §hepTalk 13:18, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- I agree with that. What may be even more relevant is http://edition.cnn.com/CNNI . Seems the current logo is white on red with no colour in the globe anyway. (unless this is just for historical purposes) Begoontalk 02:28, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- FWIW, just the 'CNN' part has already been done. I think if this is for CNN International, then it should probably be the current logo, rather than an old logo. gringer (talk) 10:52, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- I agree with that. What may be even more relevant is http://edition.cnn.com/CNNI . Seems the current logo is white on red with no colour in the globe anyway. (unless this is just for historical purposes) Begoontalk 02:28, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
The globe involved in the CNN logo is not something that can be vectorized while still maintaining its integrity. §hepTalk 23:17, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
UCC Crest 1916-1931

Article(s): History of Upper Canada College
Request: Vectorize. Thanks in advance. Connormah 23:10, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): I will try my best, but the blurry won't help. Arnaud Ramey (talk) 13:21, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. Connormah 15:00, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Done. I also moved the svg to Commons. Gimme feedback if you want ! Arnaud Ramey (talk) 21:55, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- Awesome job. Connormah 00:51, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- So is this one resolved? §hepTalk 04:02, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, I'll mark it. Thanks! Connormah 17:05, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- So is this one resolved? §hepTalk 04:02, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Awesome job. Connormah 00:51, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Hokushin-ron

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Vectorised image
Article(s): Hokushin-ron
Request: trim off top headline per WPMOS... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:30, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Should really be re-done as a vector, but for the meantime I removed the headline/tweaked the type. Begoontalk 14:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you! I will mark it as needing vectorized!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:11, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Vectorised as Hokushin-ron-Map.svg Begoontalk 10:05, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
international vehicle registration

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cut away background and straighten
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Done in SVG
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Done trim away extra blank space
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Done trim away extra blank space
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cut to oval
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Done in SVG
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Done white background inside oval
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Done border to same thickness as D
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Done border to same thickness as D
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transparent background
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Done in SVG
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cut away background and straighten
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Done in SVG
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cut away background and straighten
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Done in SVG
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cut away background and straighten
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Done in SVG
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cut away background and straighten
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Done in SVG
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transparent background
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Done in SVG
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cut away background and straighten
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Done in SVG
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cut away background and straighten
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Done in SVG
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Done border to same thickness as D
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Done cut away background and straighten
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just in case you want to try the svg ;)
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Done vectorization
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The coat of arms in details (argh !)
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cut away background and straighten
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Done in SVG
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Done white background inside oval
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cut away background and straighten
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Done in SVG
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cut away background and straighten
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Done in SVG
Article(s): international vehicle registration
Request: Do something with them... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 09:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Request taken by Arnaud.ramey. I will give it a shot.
Done Wow, that was more than what I expected. Arnaud Ramey (talk) 13:28, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Me too, those are fantastic, thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:44, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- For Monaco, the content of the coat of arms is not the same : do you know if we can find the buglars somewhere ? Arnaud Ramey (talk) 13:51, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
I had a quick search, and I can't find those sneaky little buglers either. Maybe you don't need them? These people don't use them on the one they sell: <commercial link now removed - in history...>. Begoontalk 14:47, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Done Well, I remade the coat of arms from scratch. It is not perfect, leave some feedback !
- It's truly outstanding (150 points out of a possible 100) I think the curtain is red, but you couldn't lose any points on such a fine piece of work... Begoontalk 11:44, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks :) Actually, it looks alright as long as you don't come too close :) Curtain color corrected now. Arnaud Ramey (talk) 13:35, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- That is fantastic!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:11, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Cook family

Article(s): Cook (surname)
Request: trim away external geegaw as artist's indulgence-should be just central shield... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 10:22, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Done - though the pattern in the horseshoe was indistinct so it's a guess... Begoontalk 14:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- That's wonderful, thank you! These arms all date from the Middle Ages, so there is no set form.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:16, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, yes - the freedom of the artist to interpret the blazon - how civilised... Begoontalk 14:27, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hum, you won't like my contribution, but as a fond of horses, I have to act ! This is a horseshoe, and usually they look like this File:Eisentorschmuck_Hufeisen_01.jpg. We can distinguish the rabbet in the COA. Well, otherwise we can still say and suppose horseshoes were looking differently in the middles ages ! ;) Arnaud Ramey (talk) 14:44, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- I like your contribution just fine. Here's something different... Begoontalk 15:30, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hum, you won't like my contribution, but as a fond of horses, I have to act ! This is a horseshoe, and usually they look like this File:Eisentorschmuck_Hufeisen_01.jpg. We can distinguish the rabbet in the COA. Well, otherwise we can still say and suppose horseshoes were looking differently in the middles ages ! ;) Arnaud Ramey (talk) 14:44, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thumbs up ! This one looks great. Arnaud Ramey (talk) 15:52, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Cross of Merit (Polish Scouting and Guiding Association)

Article(s): Cross of Merit (Polish Scouting and Guiding Association)
Request: straighten center device and ribbon... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 10:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Done Begoontalk 12:13, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you! I didn't notice the first time, please remove shading, extra blank space from the background. Your cleanup is great, that Polish graphist is great, it looks like he made the original from a life image, that must be tricky! Thank you both!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 12:51, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Based on the article it goes with, I wonder if the stripes should be green or aqua? Ah, leave it.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:08, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Cropped - to lose the shadow I lost the small fold of ribbon which just looked odd without relief. Begoontalk 13:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Based on the article it goes with, I wonder if the stripes should be green or aqua? Ah, leave it.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:08, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- That's perfect, thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:39, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Court seal

Article(s): United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri
Request: Vectorize, if possible; otherwise, please take the original from here, recrop it into a clean circle, and make the background transparent. —fetch·comms 21:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Done - File:E.D.Mo. Seal.svg Begoontalk
- Thank you very much! —fetch·comms 01:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Burmese high school seal

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Burmese seal
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Burmese - SVG
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English seal
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English - SVG
Article(s): BEHS 9 Mandalay
Request: Convert to SVG, both languages. In the Burmese version, the Burmese text, from top to bottom is as follows:
ပညာ - အ.ထ.က. - ၉ - မန္တလေး - ကာယ စာရိတ္ထ
Thanks!Hintha (talk) 09:17, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
- English version done - I'll try to find time for the other one tomorrow... Begoontalk 11:50, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- It looks great so far. I also converted the Burmese text on the seal to work with Zawgyi font, since true Unicode fonts for Burmese don't seem to work the programs used to make SVG files. It's below:
ပညာ - အ.ထ.က. - ၉ - မႏၲေလး - ကာယ စာရိတၳ
Thanks again!--Hintha(t) 01:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Done Burmese version is now also done. Because the text on the shield was half invisible in the original, I made it red on black/black on red. Begoontalk 06:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! It's wonderful. --Hintha(t) 00:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Tibetan Olympics 2008

Article(s): Tibetan Olympics 2008
Request: Please create a logo for http://www.tibetanolympics.com/... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:15, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Done - File:Tibetan Olympics Logo.svg - created using image from this link.... Added to article. Begoontalk 14:27, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry I didn't comment yet, it's great!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Burmese high school coat of arms

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Article(s): BEHS 1 Dagon
Request: Convert to SVG vector. Some things to note: the true colors are of the left image. There's an oil lamp in the middle, surrounded by 2 stalks of rice, inside a cogwheel. No text on the banner. Also, at the top of the seal is Burmese text:
အ.ထ.က (၁)
, and the at the bottom is:
ဒဂံု
. I recommend Zawgyi font, because true Unicode fonts aren't compatible with most SVG programs. Thanks! --Hintha(t) 00:25, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Done Begoon•talk 13:24, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! --Hintha(t) 19:04, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Myanmar Ministry of Health

Article(s): Ministry of Health (Burma)
Request: A clearer version of the snake is here: [1]. The Burmese text on the top says:
က်န္းမာေရးဝန္ႀကီးဌာန
On the bottom is: "MINISTRY OF HEALTH UNION OF MYANMAR". I recommend Zawgyi font, because true Unicode fonts aren't compatible with most SVG programs. Thanks! --Hintha(t) 01:46, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Request taken by Arnaud.ramey. I want to make some of these requests disappear, too much scrolling on this GL ! ;) Arnaud Ramey (talk) 08:32, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Done Can it be uploaded on Commons ? Arnaud Ramey (talk) 09:56, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- By default, I uploaded it only on en.wiki . Arnaud Ramey (talk) 12:38, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! I think that's fine for now, considering there aren't any other interwiki articles on MOH. --Hintha(t) 19:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
TTC Yangon logo

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The school coat of arms/logo
Article(s): TTC Yangon
Request: Got another one to convert to SVG. Pretty basic high school logo, oil lamp in the middle, and two rice stalks on the sides of the coat of arms. The Burmese text is:
ေလ့က်င့္ေရး
ေက်ာင္း
I recommend Zawgyi font, because true Unicode fonts aren't compatible with most SVG programs. Thanks in advance! --Hintha(t) 22:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Done - File:TTC logo.svg - Begoon•talk 01:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks again! --Hintha(t) 06:47, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Angular velocity

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Diagram of angular velocity
Article(s): Angular velocity
Request: Make the arrowheads (above the variables) larger, variables italic and add a few pixels to the right edge, so it would not cut into the circle. Thanks in advance! 90.191.167.171 (talk) 18:29, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe add some color too? 90.191.167.171 (talk) 18:30, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Done - but if you want to change colour/make arrowheads even larger just specify - I had no idea what colours to use, so used basic blue/red/green Begoon•talk 23:40, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Svg request for logo

Article(s): Symbiosis International University and articles on affiliate institutions.
Request: General .svg request. Thanks in advance. Forty two 10:03, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
- Is there a higher-res version? sonia♫ 10:31, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry about the low-res. This one should be good enough.-- Forty two 10:36, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm. It seems that the version you've just linked is the more recent, accurate logo. Could you possibly acquire the text for the non-English bit? sonia♫ 12:12, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry about the low-res. This one should be good enough.-- Forty two 10:36, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Whilst this could have been redrawn, it's far preferable to use an official version if available. I didn't think I was going to be able to find one, because the first 15 or 20 pdfs I looked at all had low quality bitmaps in them. However, finally I found it in a document from their design faculty: http://www.symbiosisdesign.ac.in/pdf/Programme_Structure_PD.pdf - it's slightly different to the one you posted (doesn't have the parentheses around "deemed university" (which is also not all caps) or the ©) but it is from an official document, so I uploaded as is. It's possibly worth actually emailing them to ask if they have an official vector version we should use. Begoon•talk 13:59, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Great work, Begoon. That's significantly different from both files 42 linked- weird. sonia♫ 14:09, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think it just means they have various versions floating around - the first jpg (in the GLNF box above) is the one they use on most of their web pages, but it could be outdated, which is why I suggested the email to them to confirm which they view as "official". At the very least, the basic shapes and non-English text are correct in the SVG, so if someone does end up editing it to create a derivative, they will be correct. And thank you, too - you just saved me pinging your talk page to try and stop you doing too much work on it. Begoon•talk 14:15, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- I might get that email out. The article currently reads, "In 2006 the University Grants Commission withdrew the word "Deemed" and renamed the institution as "Symbiosis International University".", but the use of the old logo on their webpage makes me somewhat uncertain. sonia♫ 14:25, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- In my experience it's not uncommon for organisations to be lax on version control when it comes to things like this. They may not even have proper Corporate Identity procedures set up. The web site design says it was outsourced to a company which does these kind of "identity packages". Quite possibly the different departments do their own thing and nobody properly co-ordinates it. If you do email, I'd recommend chancellor[at]siu.edu.in - he should at least be able to get the right person to answer. Begoon•talk 14:33, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you and sorry for the trouble. There are actually three versions of the logo.Although the latest one is the one I linked to (at least that's the one they are using on my marksheets) all the versions are in use. If it is not a problem could you please edit it into the newest version. Thank you once again.-- Forty two 04:02, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Will do later today if I have the time. sonia♫ 04:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Done, thanks to Begoon for fixing my mistakes. Is it all right? sonia♫ 08:35, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Meh, no mistake, just an oversight - you did all the work. It looks excellent. Great job. Begoon•talk 08:39, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Erm... I see the correct version in the history but not in the most recent upload.Looks fineotherwise. Thank you very much.-- Forty two 08:50, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Meh, no mistake, just an oversight - you did all the work. It looks excellent. Great job. Begoon•talk 08:39, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Will do later today if I have the time. sonia♫ 04:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you and sorry for the trouble. There are actually three versions of the logo.Although the latest one is the one I linked to (at least that's the one they are using on my marksheets) all the versions are in use. If it is not a problem could you please edit it into the newest version. Thank you once again.-- Forty two 04:02, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- In my experience it's not uncommon for organisations to be lax on version control when it comes to things like this. They may not even have proper Corporate Identity procedures set up. The web site design says it was outsourced to a company which does these kind of "identity packages". Quite possibly the different departments do their own thing and nobody properly co-ordinates it. If you do email, I'd recommend chancellor[at]siu.edu.in - he should at least be able to get the right person to answer. Begoon•talk 14:33, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- I might get that email out. The article currently reads, "In 2006 the University Grants Commission withdrew the word "Deemed" and renamed the institution as "Symbiosis International University".", but the use of the old logo on their webpage makes me somewhat uncertain. sonia♫ 14:25, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think it just means they have various versions floating around - the first jpg (in the GLNF box above) is the one they use on most of their web pages, but it could be outdated, which is why I suggested the email to them to confirm which they view as "official". At the very least, the basic shapes and non-English text are correct in the SVG, so if someone does end up editing it to create a derivative, they will be correct. And thank you, too - you just saved me pinging your talk page to try and stop you doing too much work on it. Begoon•talk 14:15, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Nassau class main weapon

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Line-drawing of a Nassau class battleship
Article(s): SMS Westfalen, Nassau class battleship, SMS Posen, SMS Nassau, SMS Rheinland
Request: I got a comment at an ongoing FAC that the lines for this image are too small and make it nearly invisible. Can someone please thicken them so they're easier to see? Thanks in advance. Parsecboy (talk) 02:11, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Done by original requester (I was actually the one who made that comment) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 02:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)