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Task-Focused Interface

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Neologism coined by the founders of Tasktop Technologies Inc.. Not notable, no significant coverage in secondary sources. Chrisahn (talk) 23:10, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:37, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:38, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep There seem to be a few independent GScholar hits. --Cybercobra (talk) 05:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~. Only a handful of the Google Scholar results appear to be about this non-consumer software product. It's hard to determine whether any of the ones that also mention "Mylyn" are substantially about this product, but even so, whatever this is, it ain't going to be a household name anytime soon. The relevant ones would also appear to be couched in "information science" bafflegab; while this is a fairly extensive walled garden, it's still a walled garden of dubious articles written in unreadable prose. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:35, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral. This certainly reads much, much better than the original article, now that the inventor has given it some attention. This, of course, raises further conflict of interest issues, which themselves do not require deletion: it obviously did help in this case for the article to get attention from someone who knows the subject well. I am not yet convinced that this particular software or technology is of abiding historical or wide general interest outside the realm of software developers and managers, or whether it might be profitably merged into another article about similar technologies.

If this is kept, I suspect that it ought to be moved to task focused interface or Mylyn task focused interface, per the style manual on capitalization. Yes, TLAs are a red flag. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 20:37, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- To address the concern of the historical and general relevance, I will take another pass at the page and link it within related articles on software technologies, project management and human-computer interaction. To address the conflict issue, after I've filled out the critical points and grounding, I will invite others involved with creation and application of the technology to elaborate on the entry. This is a relatively new technology, but by most accounts of technology dissemination, it has recently reached critical mass in terms of significance. Regarding the title, it does appear that the author made a mistake in capitalization. I think it's best not to rename to "Mylyn task focused interface", since there are significant implementations of the technology that are unrelated to the Mylyn project, but to use your other option of Task-focused interface, similar to Object-oriented programming? Mik Kersten (talk) 17:38, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Note that I'm considered the inventor of this technology, but did not update this article until today, when I was informed of it being marked for deletion. I agree that when marked for deletion, the article did not demonstrate the relevance of the technology. However, this technology is in daily use by a very large portion of software developers, a rapidly increasing number of software managers, and the "task-focused interface" term is a very important and well reckognized term for the 5-10 million who have downloaded it (For real-time download stats in the past 2 months see the Eclipse Download page and do a Find for "Mylyn").
To address the feedback, I have edited the task-focued interface article in a way that I hope addresses all of the key issues raised. Regarding the other specific points:
- Neologism coined by the founders of Tasktop Technologies Inc.. Not notable, no significant coverage in secondary sources.
  - The technology predates Tasktop Technologies by 2 years and the impact reaches far beyond the one company. I hope that my updates to the History section make this clear, but let me know if not and I can add additional references and elaborate on the history.
- Only a handful of the Google Scholar results appear to be about this non-consumer software product.
  - It seems the problem there is with your Google Scholar search terms? To get a decent set of results, start browsing Google Scholar with the research term for the technology, "task context", and my last name "kersten" and fan out from that. You should end up with hundreds of citations stating the impact of the "task-focused interface" and the "task context" and "degree-of-interest" model that underlies it.
- while this is a fairly extensive walled garden, it's still a walled garden of dubious articles written in unreadable prose
  - If the above answers provide enough evidence of the importance of this article, I am happy to address this "walled garden" problem and improve the description of the technology, which I have not yet touched, and improve its linking and categorization. Beatmik (talk) 04:05, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Quote: 'the "task-focused interface" term is a very important and well reckognized term for the 5-10 million who have downloaded it' - that is an unfounded statement. Most users download the whole Eclipse package and are not aware of each of its components. For example, my colleagues (several dozen) and I use Eclipse a lot, but we don't use Mylyn, let alone the term "task-focused interface". I also doubt that it is used by 'a very large portion of software developers'. What percentage? Are there independent sources for that claim? Chrisahn (talk) 23:04, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. As a software developer who has done a significant amount of development, and as an editor who has spent a few years writing about software development innovation at InfoQ.com, the introduction of the task-focused interface in the form of Mylyn, which is free and open source as a part of the Eclipse project, was a truly revolutionary change in how software development was done. It has been covered and extended a lot, and this article focuses on the concept which Mylyn and other conceptually similar user interfaces are driven by. It's not some run-of-the-mill over-marketed term that some ad agency came up - it's a meaningful concept in the software development field. -=Straxus=- (talk) 18:14, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]