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MovieCodec Forums

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Unnotable website that fails WP:N, WP:WEB, and WP:PROMOTION. It was created and hit with sock/meat puppets with a thread on the site asking people to come keep the article going[1] The only three reliable third party sources are purely about the "I am lonely" thread and its creator, Oliver Burkeman, and primarily mention MovieCodec in passing as where he started, not because the site itself is significant. At best, the three sentences on the "i am lonely will anyone speak to me" could be made to create a possible article on Oliver Burkeman as he appears to be an at least somewhat notable newspaper author (who, FYI, is a writer for the Guardian article making that source also a non-third party source). This particular site has already been spammed and deleted three times under moviecodec.com[2], with this new version apparently trying to claim that the forums are notable apart from the actual unnotable site. CSD was twice declined (tagged by two different editors), because it does at least contain marginal third-party sourcing. Original version was pure spam, containing dozens and dozens of links to the forums, a copy of the forum rules, etc and notes that the forum members have been asked to come expand this article.[3]

This site completely fails WP:N (coverage noted above is not signifcant nor about the site, but about Burkeman). It fails all criteria in WP:WEB: The forums have not "been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself" beyond the single thread which, again, was more about Burkeman and had nothing to do with the site itself. As noted in this first crtieria, the coverage does not include this type of event. The site has not "won a well-known and independent award from either a publication or organization." nor is the content "distributed via a medium which is both respected and independent of the creators, either through an online newspaper or magazine, an online publisher, or an online broadcaster". -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 23:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Collectonian's arguments are compelling. While the article clears the WP:GNG hurdle on the surface by citing three sources, the articles are about the thread and not the forum. The forum itself isn't notable outside of the thread. Whether you argue that it's outright non-notable or is only notable for one event, it falls short of the depth of coverage expected for an article. Since the "I am lonely" thread does not (and probably should not) have an article, merging is not an option. —C.Fred (talk) 23:22, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. NN and the "I am lonely..." is a single event at best. 7 ^{talk | Δ |} 23:31, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no significant third-party coverage. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 23:50, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 23:56, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment it should be noted in case of a lot of new members suddenly appearing that in the MvC forum[4], the creators of the article have now asked their forum members to come do meatpuppeting at this AfD and "try and fight the battle for us" to "save" the article. (I've print screened the thread)-- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 00:15, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
delete Non notable website, no evidence that it passes the minimum criteria for inclusion as spelled out at WP:N and WP:WEB. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 00:49, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]