Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacket matrix

Jacket matrix

I can find maybe 2 papers on Google scholar discussing jacket matrices that don't have M.H. Lee (the original article creator) as an author or co-author. Therefore, I'm not convinced this is a notable topic, even in a fairly limited academic circle.

Was PRODded, but removed by anon IP. Oli Filth^{(talk|contribs)} 22:33, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. -- I'^mperator 22:44, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:OR, WP:COI. The article is not based on WP:IS. Algébrico (talk) 00:44, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep as per mistaken nomination. Article obviously passes core policies WP:V and WP:SOURCES. It also easily passes guidelines WP:N as "Jacket matrix" return 100 hits on Google Scholar. Peer reviewed sources are Wikipedia's gold standard, I refer nominee to WP:N for details. The delete endorser's COI accusations and reference to WP:IS (which merely is an essay!) are misconceived; the reference to WP:OR is ludicrous. Yes, M.H.Lee (who in all likelihood is the article's creator) has published (and co-published!) buckets of articles on this specialist topic, it has NOTHING to do with WP:COI, please re-read COI, and perhaps consult the essay WP:SCOIC. Article currently only has one reference, simply because nominee recently deleted all the others [1], an action not justified or reasoned from criteria of relevance to the article, but from purely technical reasons, as the sources "were not specifically cited in the article. I believe the nomination is in good faith, but nominee shows a limited grasp of Wikipedia's deletion policy. Please close as speedy keep. Power.corrupts (talk) 07:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Some responses from nom:
  - I'm not contesting WP:V and WP:RS.
  - Yes, I'm aware there are 100 hits on Google Scholar. But have you noticed that about 98% of them are all by M.H. Lee, the inventor/creator of the concept of jacket matrices? Notability requires widespread, independent coverage; I strongly believe this is not present, hence the nom. In essence, does anyone else in the world know or care about jacket matrices?
  - Please don't put words in my mouth; I haven't mentioned (or implied) a COI interest, nor have I mentioned WP:OR!
  - I culled the reference list because it seemed purely to be "promotional" (in a limited sense of the word); they conferred no direct support to the article. A list of 20 papers is not automatically a list of references.
  - Disagreeing with the notability etc. doesn't imply I "don't understand the nomination process", nor does it warrant a speedy keep on procedural grounds!
- Oli Filth^{(talk|contribs)} 08:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Absolutely right, I shouldn't have mixed your and the endorser's comments, I've revised text accordingly. Adding relevant peer reviewed references is not WP:ADVERT. I would still say, that your reason for deletion based on notability concerns is very, very weak. Power.corrupts (talk) 09:28, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - What I would really like to see (to convince me that this is a worthwhile article) is some indication that someone else (preferably plural!) is actually using this maths, i.e. a truly independent, in-depth discussion of jacket matrices, as opposed to an endless list of articles all by the same guy. On the subject of references again: at the moment, the article essentially consists of a single factual statement (the definition). At most, this requires citing a single judiciously-chosen paper (not ~20, that helps no one!). On top of that, the reference list should include some independent coverage to demonstrate notability. Oli Filth^{(talk|contribs)} 12:17, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      - I understand that, but it is a home-made inclusion criteria. See Wikipedia:NOTTRUTH. I am definitely no subject matter expert, and for me notability is certainly implied, if Lee can get loads and loads of articles pubished in peer reviewed journals on the subject. I have also noted that he is co-author on many, so somebody must find this useful for some purpose. I cannot enter a subject matter discussion, due to lack of knowledge, but I don't have to, all that is needed is Wikipedia:Verifiability.