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Unreferenced OR. Reads like a personal essay. Deprodded with the instruction to 'first look for refs'. Anyone who cares to do so is welcome; the only ones I've run across relate to Age regression in therapy, not the use of the 'theme' in fiction. -- Vary Talk 02:23, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Delete. If there are no references, and I don't see any in the article or anywhere else, then this is original research. Drmies (talk) 02:28, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Keep It just takes a little experimentation with search strings ""age regression" fiction -therapy -hypnosis"age regression" fiction -therapy -hypnosis" in google books yields [1]--see in particular the 3rd one down. "Age regression is a popular theme in transformation fiction involving the physical reduction in age by a character" from [2],alongwith some examples on that and the following pages. The article needs of course to be written to take this into account,m but we do not delete for unreferenced, just unreferenceable. DGG (talk) 04:10, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Whoa, that is fancy footwork, tapping around Google. Congratulations, you got me. But...this really means the title is incorrect--should be "age regression in fiction," an entirely different animal. Drmies (talk) 04:54, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- DGG hasn't quite "got you". Notice that "the third one down" is the infamous Webster's Quotations, Facts and Phrases. This is a Wikipedia mirror in book form (that doesn't conform to the GFDL, by the way), as the little "[WP]" next to the article that DGG quotes indicates. The fact that it's word-for-word identical with this 2005 version of age regression is a big clue, also. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 12:58, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- And the others (in the first five pages, anyway) all appear to be false positives: references to hypnotherapy that weren't filtered out by the search, age regression as an effect of certain psychoactive substances, 'age regression models' used in medical studies, and uses of the phrase in actual fiction, but no scholarly discussion of age regression as a literary theme. -- Vary Talk 15:51, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- DGG hasn't quite "got you". Notice that "the third one down" is the infamous Webster's Quotations, Facts and Phrases. This is a Wikipedia mirror in book form (that doesn't conform to the GFDL, by the way), as the little "[WP]" next to the article that DGG quotes indicates. The fact that it's word-for-word identical with this 2005 version of age regression is a big clue, also. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 12:58, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Whoa, that is fancy footwork, tapping around Google. Congratulations, you got me. But...this really means the title is incorrect--should be "age regression in fiction," an entirely different animal. Drmies (talk) 04:54, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Move per Drmies and keep. The title is obviously faulty but based on the reference found it does have WP:POTENTIAL. - Mgm|(talk) 09:54, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- This is the second time that I've seen that this particular Wikipedia mirror has fooled people at AFD. It's not a reliable source. It's us from a couple of years ago, blindly copied and pasted with no editorial oversight, no fact checking, and no proper author, link, and history information given per the requirements of the GFDL. Uncle G (talk) 12:58, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Comment are there any sources that are actually about this topic, or just mention it? Has anyone actually studied this? Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, now that this "Webster's" is out (and thanks, Uncle G, for your explanation--I should have done more than just look at the one page and the cover), I don't know where else the term might be found. It's certainly not in any of the literary handbooks on my shelf (the Abrams, Princeton, Penguin, and Columbia dictionaries of literary terms and terminology). And if the term existed, it ought to be in there, given that the article proposes older, established authors such as F. Scott Fitzgerald and T.H. White--I mean, it can't be that the term isn't in my handbooks cause it only appears in real "new" fiction. For the time being, I'm sticking to my earlier delete vote. Drmies (talk) 20:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- I haven't found any. There appears to be no real topic here. The only reason that this article exists in the first place is that age regression was split. This content came from the random collection of fictional mentions that was originally in that article. This article is the byproduct of some cargo cult encyclopaedia article writing at age regression. There's nothing that I can find that links the disparate ideas of Merlin living backwards with body swap movies, both of which we have covered (albeit not in very great detail in the former case) in their respective articles, and brings them together under the umbrella of a single topic, by this or any other title. Uncle G (talk) 01:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)