Talk:Project manager

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More mention needs to be made of Project Managers working on software development. Mathiastck 16:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please generalise beyond the three fields mentioned in the article. Fireglowe 22:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are all those certifications IT only? Can anyone add certification and degree information for non-IT fields? 67.103.5.26 14:10, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This statement is innacurate --A project manager's only duty is to ensure the success of a project by minimizing risk throughout the lifetime of the project.-- While this is important, it is not a project manager's only duty. Project Manager's are also responsible for the management of the following -- project issues, communication, scope, time, cost (budget), resources, quality, integration, and procurement. A PMI (www.pmi.org) summary of project management needs to be added.

Construction Project Manager

This seems to me to be an odd term and one that I am not familiar with, I suspect it is US centric? I would think it should be Project Construction Manager instead. If it is meant to define a Project Manager in the Construction Industry, this seems to be a restrictive term, for this Article. What about the mining industry, the defence industry, the aeronautical industry, aluminium industry, heavy industry ETC. The Project Manager is usually from the client organisation not from the builder. The common thing about all of these industries is that their projects are project managed by engineers. So I think it shoud be Engineering, Architecture and Software in the lead, and form the sections in the body of this Article.

I also find this paragraph somewhat odd "In the past, construction project managers were individuals who worked in construction or supporting industries and were promoted to foreman. It was not until the late 20th century that construction and construction project management became distinct fields." If they are the now Project Construction Manager then have certainly never been foremen, I would say were previously called Resident Engineer! Construction was a distinct field long before the 20th. century? And Engineering Project Management has been around for a long time. Lets be clear there is only one Project Manager on any project. The problem here seems to be the dimunition, of the term project to include what were previously called tasks. Consequently the term Project manager is used innapropriately. Just like the term Manager is these days applied in job descriptions for just about everyone including the Janitor who now is called a Sanitation Manager !!!

It is precisely for this reason that the term Professional Project Manager has been created just as Professional Engineer and Certified Engineer now are used. From a wiki perspetive this Article contains no references, and insular opinions have crept in and not WP:NPOV what is badly needed is a cleanup and lots of WP:RS references. Jagra (talk) 08:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]