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This is the archive of past requests to the Graphic Lab. New requests can be submitted here.
Pages in archive include: December 2006, January 2007, February 2007, March 2007, April 2007, May 2007, June 2007, July 2007, August 2007.

 DonePrince's Palace of Monaco

  • source JPG
    source JPG
  • SVG
    SVG

Article(s):Prince's Palace of Monaco

Request: I created this image and the one below for the Scottish Parliament building a while back - I understand the preference with such images is to have them in the scalable SVG format - unfortunately I had no way to convert them - I think I've still got the photoshop files, if anyone would like to parse the files? Mcginnly | Natter 10:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Well, this one is of high enough quality that I don't really see a point in conversion.--Cronholm144 11:45, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the only reason for SVG-ification would be to reduce file size, and the same for below. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 14:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not the only. SVG also makes files simpler to edit, including for localization. I'll go ahead and start on this one - just the sort of menial job I could use ATM. ¦ Reisio 04:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC) Actually I will go ahead and start on this one if you relicense as public domain. ¦ Reisio 07:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's a good point; I hadn't thought of that. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 15:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've changed the license - like I said, if it's less work for you guys I can send the photoshop files - seems I can export as png from photoshop if you'd prefer that also. regards --Mcginnly | Natter 08:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Probably won't make any difference. ¦ Reisio 20:37, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
To me, it looks like a tricky and time-consuming task to completely do manually. Unless someone else takes up the work that Reisio started, your best bet might be to upload the original Photoshop files to the Internet somewhere and post a link. They may be of use to someone, and could save a lot of manual work. But at least, if you can upload PNG versions here to replace the JPEGs, that would also be good: as a rule, PNG is better than JPEG for maps and diagrams like this. CountingPine 01:00, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PNG is preferable to jpg however.--Cronholm144 20:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm gonna go on an unplanned hiatus, so I won't be finishing this. I didn't get that far, and anyone doing this would probably rather start from their own blank slate, but here's (32 KB) my Inkscape SVG anyways - some layers may be hidden ATM, I don't remember.. ¦ Reisio 08:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Can't you just use the trace image tool in Inkscape? Not perfect, but one can tweak it a bit... vlad§inger tlk 00:39, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Or the fill bucket tool In the development versions... --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 07:24, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In an effort to actually complete this request, I've started tracing this in Inkscape. It might take me a while, mind. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 22:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here's what I've got so far. Not finished yet by a long way. See a higher res version at User:DTR/Sandbox. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 23:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nearly finished, just need to add the railings or whatever they are. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 14:55, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much Dave, that's great. --Mcginnly | Natter 14:36, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Upernavik cemetary

 Done

Article(s): None...yet

Request: I would like to promote this picture for FP on wikicommons. However it has some noise in the sky, which I would like to have reduced. I have done the following to the photo so far.

  • Improved saturation by 10
  • Tilted to get the horizon straight
  • Downsampled from 5Mpixels to 3.7 Mpixels to reduce noise
  • Applied and unsharp mask of radius 1.0 and amount 0.7 (this increased the noise a little).

I am using The GIMP. I have tried to remove the noise by making an inverted edgedetected mask and apply this to a LAB decomposed imange in the luminosity channel for doing a Gaussian blur with radius 5.0. However it gave some strange border effect. If you are able to help me I'd be interesting in learning how such that I can do it myself on other images. I can also upload the original unmodified image if this is of any help. Thank you. -- Slaunger 23:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Well, I did it myself based on the original (yeah, I know, not very patient). Or at least I tried... -- Slaunger 08:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

 Done Scouting in Belarus

File:Scouting in Belarus logo.svg

Article(s): Scouts-in-Exile, Scouting in Belarus

Request: Can you folks please make the black areas red and crisper defined? This one is about 60 years old, so the copyright is (maybe?) not in question. Thank you again! -- Chris 05:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I'll set to work on an SVG > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 07:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, i've done the outline, where should I upload it to, if it is copyright free then i'll upload it to commons > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 08:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not so sure that this image is free of copyright. PD-Russia means that the image must have been published before 1954 but the author must also have died before that date in order for the work to be PD. We don't have the name of this person, so how can we tell for sure? Logos are only PD in Germany, not in other nations, so please don't upload the file to Commons. They have deleted a ton of logos for this exact reason. Valentinian T / C 08:23, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clearing that up Valentinian. Hows this for the outline Chris ? (PS: went ahead and coloured per your instructions, added text and cleaned up a bit ( And just noticed MediaWiki's changed the font of the text when rendering the SVG, when we are happy with the position etc, i'll convert it to path so it won't change the font) ) > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 08:45, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just remembered to tell you guys, I am not going to be here (off on Holiday) from 23rd August till 3rd SEptemebr, sorry for any inconvenience caused. Have Fun ! > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 19:07, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The two leafs look very thin. The original fleur-de-lys has broad leafs with a line running down the centre. Could you make them more like the original? Valentinian T / C 19:27, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The base idea is really good, thank you so much!
As per Valentinian (nice to have a heraldist/vexillologist here!) the petals do look thin, actually part of the petals are missing in the redraw.
Also, the redraw is much more angular than the original, which though small, should have rounded edges throughout. Is there a way to start with the base image, rather than having to redraw it?
As to the font, you got the characters exactly, but they should all be upper case, not upper-and-lower. (and sans-serif like Helvetica or Arial if you have it)
That's all I see for now, thank you so much! Chris 21:31, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay 1) I've now put the extra part of the petals (don't know why I left it out ...) 2) As for the text, it is kind of hard to put it in upper case as the characters aren't english, though they may look it, could you get the Belarus's Scout Motto off the Scout Motto page and convert it to uppercase, then I can put it in 3) When you talk about the angular thing, do you mean that all the corners should be rounded on the emblem?

Anyway I off on holiday now, so don't rush to answer the questions. See you soon ! > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 06:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cutting and pasting from the Cyrillic alphabet article, I get "БУДЗЬ ГАТОЎ" as the uppercase version of the motto. I've uploaded a new version with that text, converted into a path so that there can be no rendering problems. I've also smoothed some of the curves a bit, and added missing background to the lower petals. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 18:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Ilmari, the text is perfect! Kiitoksia paljon! :) I've put up another graphic to point what I see still needed. Chris 02:54, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The changes I see needed are:
  • there should be no "crimp" at the top, the petal should be less angular
  • the sash should be straight on both edges, not curved
  • the lower petals are much smaller than in the original
  • the center of the bottom loop should not be red, just the loop itself

Chris 23:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Guys i'm back ! Just made the changes to the the logo as stated above & in the instructional image, how does it look ? > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 08:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Welcome back! If the middle petal could be a little rounder, think an onion dome, that'd be great, then the only other thing left to be done is to make all black details red. This should at the end only be bicolor. Thanks! Chris 21:34, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This okay ? Edit: If it isn't, could you draw an image that I can trace? > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 16:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rugby, you so rock, this is great! Thank you! Chris 21:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Two provincial Argentinian flags (easy)

Articles: List of Argentine flags, Jujuy Province, Mendoza Province and others

Request: To create SVGs of the two provincial flags. As far as I can tell, the coat of arms at the center of each is just the national one, which we already have an SVG of.

Opinion:article and opinion are still misspelled...—Cronholm144 17:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay then. vlad§inger tlk 17:41, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I only say that because I have made that same correction 5 or 6 times now and it is getting downright strange. Anyway this is done.—Cronholm144 17:53, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't wish to be a pain, but speaking as a heraldry-buff: if a flag or coat of arms doesn't appear the way you'd expect it to, there is often a good reason for it. es:Bandera de Jujuy states that the insignia must be exactly like (something I can't read). See also the illustration on Flag of the Andes and the text below that specifies that Mendoza province uses this design. My guess would both these flags are supposed to display an image of a particular historic version of the coat of arms. This would also explain why the Spanish-language Wikipedia uses images differing from the present version of Argentina's national coat of arms. See also Army of the Andes. Valentinian T / C 15:29, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh, I will try to whip something up but at that angle it isn't going to be easy—Cronholm144 19:39, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've added another reference image. I hope that's easier to deal with. Valentinian T / C 20:22, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That second image you added has numerous problems when compared to the original I'm afraid. I think I will work off the svg actual y la bandera. The flag actually looks really good I just wish we had a better shot.—Cronholm144 20:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, try [1], [2] and [3] Valentinian sup>T / C 20:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yay! They're old but I can cross-reference with all of the stuff we already have. This might take a while but I should be able to cobble something together.—Cronholm144 20:37, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to be of help. We all have different skills. I can dig up sources, patch them together, or weigh them against each other but I can't draw a straight line. (grin) Valentinian T / C 20:51, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

O the lameness... well, I guess we'll end up with an EVG of the "Flag of the Andes" as well. Anyway, usually I find that the difference between images of a flag or CoA are due to someone, somewhere,'s incompetence. 68.39.174.238 22:01, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is a really snotty comment to make. The folks that would have painted the first one were doing it freehand, probably right before a battle, with paint on cloth. I'd like to see you do better. Grow up. Chris 07:14, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
[Edited message] I wasn't referring to the original flag, rather the .GIF and .JPG renderings we have here — there are clearly numerous differences between them and the "Flag of the Andes" shown in the photograph above, THAT was the "Lameness" I was referring to. That said, unfortunately the two SVGs I requested created are useless as there are too many differences between the modrn Argentine coat of arms and the one Belgrano used. Sorry to whoever's time I wasted. User:68.39.174.238 on 71.65.99.0 20:54, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): UTA TRAX (only for now, will be on main Utah Transit Authority article once it is improved.

Request: -- Can we make this image transparent for use on UTA articles? I'm not sure IPs can make requests of this nature, but I'm trying anyway. Regards, 67.41.164.160 20:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Done, look at Image:Uta-med.png, (and BTW, yes you can request images) > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 08:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much, the image is much better (by the way, I've created an account). Cheers! IT'S DA. . .Ανέκδοτο 17:17, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Done iPods

Also: iPod lineup PRODUCT Red iPod Shuffles

Article(s): iPod, iPod nano, etc.

Request: iLounge was graceful enough to upload these photos under CC-BY to Flickr. Is there any way they can be cleaned up to make them more enc? (Background removal, rotation, drop shadow, etc?)-- HereToHelp 11:06, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Im on it ! > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 16:29, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just finished the iPod family image and iPod UI Image, so far I've done the transparent background and adjusted the colour + lightness/contrast balance, however I'm going to leave the rotation and perspective adjustment to someone else. (BTW i'll upload the transparent background +color balance versions of the images as PNG's so when people are trying to do perspective, it is easier for them as JPG's convert transparency to white. After everything is done, we'll upload them over the originals as JPG's ) > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 18:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. The nano looks ready for JPG-ification, but the "family portrait" I'm not sure about. That's an iPhone, not an iPod touch, shown. (iPod touch hasn't shipped yet and doesn't say AT&T in the upper left.) To cut out the jargon, it's misleading and probably shouldn't be used in an article (sorry for the inconvenience). Anyway, you might want to try this image instead. Meanwhile, I have written the photographer an email and thanked him for all the photos under a free license, and I mentioned that shooting with the bottom of the unit down makes for better enc photos.--HereToHelp 21:42, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like someone beat you to it: there's another iPod classic photo already uploaded, taken from the family portrait. I'l put it in the gallery, and remove the link to the one from Flickr. I'd upload the other ones, but since we're going back and forth with many revisions and different file types, I'll hold off until we have our final versions.--HereToHelp 21:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't rightly know there was an image project thing going on, I was just creating images as I saw I needed them. Although turns out one of them was copyrighted, but oh well. The lightened up nano there looks good, it lost some detail but it looks much cleaner now. The family picture, it's way too washed out, you can't really see a thing. I don't know how to add like a subtle shadow in photoshop, but it needs something to stand out. And as for it being a iPhone and not an iPod touch, I made the same mistake a few hours ago, that's why I labeled the top picture on the iPod page. People need to start labeling their pictures in articles, a photo by itself looks good but its a wasted oppertunity to spread more information if you don't caption it, things like what generations the ipods are, or what year a certain picture of a casino was taken. JayKeaton 22:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to put the new nano image into the articles, even if it is a PNG. Meanwhile, it's your call on whether or not to upload the other images linked above and put them into use right away, or wait for someone to clean them up. If you do upload them, put them on the Commons where other projects can use them. Also, the author has requested that we tag the images as "Photo courtesy of iLounge.com".--HereToHelp 23:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Or not. iLounge has changed the copyright on us and there's really nothing we can do. (Or, nothing we can do without taking it to court. Looking over the license with an untrained eye, I think we might have a case, but I'm going to do the polite thing and let them take it back.) We're going to have to speedily delete all the images and wait to get other free copies. Sorry.--HereToHelp 01:27, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well that just shows how some people can be so greedy. Too bad. > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 07:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Creative Commons licenses are non-revocable, see this entry in the flickr FAQ. These images were properly tagged at the time of upload, and in fact iLounge had an entire gallery of images under cc licenses at that time. Until and unless the copyright holder(s) contact the Commons to request removal, these are fine. In any case, they are placholders and will be obsoleted by the possibility of creating superior alternatives in less than a week. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 08:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • As described above, I've been in contact with the author. His current position is that they want to be credited on every occurrence of the image. CC-BY 2.0 says only that those using the work must "give the Original Author credit reasonable to the medium or means You are utilizing". That would seem to indicate that we should follow the Wikipedia standard, namely, attribution on image pages only. But if he wants to be greedy (or at least self-serving), I say let him. He probably didn't realize what he was getting into. Since it's only going to be a week or so, why don't we just affix <small>Photo courtesy of [http://iLounge.com iLounge.com]</small> to the captions, and replace them when new images come up? (I have emailed him a similar response: we might be able to get away with image-page only attribution, but I'll play nice.)--HereToHelp 18:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll get on to that nano in the morning :-) > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 19:02, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done it, i've uploaded it over the original & done the same with the previous two images (that we have for a week :-) ) > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 09:02, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm starting to change my mind about those…having all nine iPod shuffles in one place, as they do in the external link above, is not likely to happen again soon. The subject looks okay when it's rotated to a more enc pose (straight down), but I can't fill in the white corners nor remove the background.--HereToHelp 12:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done the shuffles, however can someone fill in the description / fair use rationale if it needs it. (I uploaded it on wikipedia in case it is fair use) > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 15:49, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I'll clear up the copyrights.--HereToHelp 16:05, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

plant stem diagram

Article(s): mainly plant stem, but possible future uses in node (botany) and internode (botany) when these are created.

Request: A SVG (translatable) diagram to illustrate the definition of "node" and "internode" more clearly than the existing labelled images. -- Circeus 22:50, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Okay, i'll get to work on the first. > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 07:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uploaded first version, does anything need to be done about the position of the text ? > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 07:49, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Knulchunk already explained some problems. besides, this is not a diagram. It's just a svg version of the image. Circeus 17:09, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Then why give us those images ? Why don't you give us a larger picture with all leaves etc so we can use that. Anyway I'm dropping out of this request. I'm fed up already. > Rugby471 talk ⚔

Graphist opinion: I think the photographs are stronger. I relabeled the second one, and will link it into the article now.--Knulclunk 15:26, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with the beautiful first image, and the svg file, is that we cannot see the leaf, so the viewer does not know what a petiole is based on the diagram.--Knulclunk 15:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This lettering is not an improvement in my opinion. The image has too many distracting elements to make a good illustration of the concept. Hence why I'm requesting a diagram, that also has the advantage to be translatable for other languages. Circeus 17:09, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Circeus, could you please be more specific about what you want in the svg image, this would help to fulfill your request.--Cronholm144 13:10, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • question-is there any graphic format that could leave a "hollow" (for lack of a better term) in an image, that could be programmed by whichever language Wikipedia is using it? What I mean is, say it was a map of the U.S. (yes, I know, systemic bias), and where it says "Colorado" in English, it could be changed to Coloratum in Latin, Колорадо in Russian, and コロラド州 in Japanese. There are location maps where the text can be changed, like for Burma and Syria, here on the 'pedia, simply by putting in the coordinated of a town or city. Am I making sense? Chris 01:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • SVG could do this in principle, but actually using the feature on Wikipedia would require some significant changes to MediaWiki's server-side SVG rendering system. Not to say that it couldn't be done, but it won't work "out of the box" — and even if it did, I'm not aware of any SVG editor that would support creating such files other than by directly editing the SVG markup. Of course, the low tech solution is just to upload local versions of the images with changed text. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 21:40, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(Related to the above) Coat of Arms of the "Army of the Andes"

Article(s): Jujuy Province, Mendoza Province, Flag of the Andes (Supplement to picture), Coat of Arms of Argentina (Comparison to current), and others.

Request:

Background: The current Argentine CoA is clearly based off of, but different from, the original one that Belgrano came up with. These are the main differences:

  • The ribbon at the bottom has two loops.
  • There is a slight (Maybe ½ of the inner coat) space between the surrounding laurel and the inner shield.
  • The sun doesn't have a nose, nor any specific rays of light, only a general fimbration.
  • The laurels curve around the shield, and then around the sun, symmetrically.
  • There are mountains below the two hands.

If that coat can be made in SVG, then the flags of Mendoza and Jujuy are the above coat of arms on the following backgrounds:

  • Jujuy: White field, proportions of 3:2 (Source)
  • Mendoza: white over blue, proportions not legally given (source)

I would also request that the base coat of arms from the "Flag of the Andes" be uploaded as well for comparison purposes WRT the current Argentine coat of arms. 71.65.99.0 21:17, 19 August 2007 (UTC) (Normally User:68.39.174.238 who forgot that "~~~~" is relative)[reply]

Reply:

It's not really related to your main request, but in case it helps anyone, I uploaded a perspective-corrected version of the Flag of the Andes photo. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 18:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It will help, thanks :). I am in the middle of preparing for college so this might take me longer than usual to make the svg.—Cronholm144 19:41, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I know the feeling, don't feel pressured by me or this request. 68.39.174.238 21:23, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

{ Done Attempted "Great Seal"/Coatofarms of the United States

Articles: Great Seal of the United States

Request: I'm not sure if this would be useful or not, but would it be possible to create an SVG version of this attempt for the Great Seal? The pyramid in the upper right can be left off as that we already have as the reverse of the seal, but the actual coat of arms I don't think has ever been done outside of the scan of the ancient inscription on paper. 68.39.174.238 15:20, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Just the seal right? I will get on it when I wake up.--Cronholm144 12:30, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Which is the seal? I'm not any good @ heraldric phraseology. 68.39.174.238 16:19, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would assume the shield part... but maybe it is the whole thing. Anyway, if it is the whole thing the difficult is going to skyrocket--Cronholm144 06:56, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you can do what parts of it you feel like, this isn't a really urgent project. 68.39.174.238 12:37, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If I could get confirmation of what the seal actually is, I will go ahead and do it, otherwise, I would rather not.--Cronholm144 01:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Afaik in heraldry the shield in the middle, the supporting figures to the left on the right and any headgear, animals or other items above, as well as any bands of text are all considered part of the coat of arms, so they should be of the seal. Look at the Current Great Seal of the United States. In heraldic terms, it has a very unorthodox composition with the huge supporting figure behind the shield, but there's also all kinds of fluff around it. forgive me for not paying heraldry it's due respect.-- ExpImptalkcon 03:05, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The coat of arms symbol is everything shown on the page except the roundel in the top-right corner, i.e. the shield, the supporters, the motto the two supporters are standing on, the golden helmet and the crest, i.e. the eagle positioned on top of the helmet and the stuff it is carrying. Btw, there is no supporting figure behind the shield; there is a motto underneath it, and a helmet on top of it that carries a crest. It would be great if somebody could find the blazon, i.e. the heraldic description of the insignia. E.g. the thing between the helmet and the eagle looks like a fez, but I'm not sure. Could it be a very oddly shaped Phrygian cap? Interestingly, the helmet doesn't seem to have either mantling or a wreath. Anyway, this proposed insignia was never introduced so the current image should be retained. It is either PD-USGov or at least PD-art under U.S. law, and it is a historically significant illustration. See also coat of arms for more details about what elements constitute a coat of arms. Valentinian T / C 07:01, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Valentinian. I was just thinking of it in regards to the question, but you are obviously right: As it not used currently, there is no need for an SVG. In fact an SVG would destroy some of the historical information (read precision, variation, paper quality, etc.) contained in the scan. As it is, however only used in historical contexts, the request should be dismissed.-- ExpImptalkcon 17:45, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to be of help. :) I agree with your reasoning above about not replacing this image. The illustration conveys a lot of details that a new SVG cannot give, like the feeling that you're peeking over the shoulder of one of the founding fathers who has just put down his quill. Valentinian T / C 18:00, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not suggesting the SVG totally replace the JPG, which is historically invaluable. 68.39.174.238 16:45, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
But you don't give a proper reason why somebody should spend considerable time to vectorise it.-- ExpImptalkcon 13:19, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Talk about decision time...this has been here ~two months. Is anyone going to spend time on this or not, if it's unclear whether there would be any use for such an image? vlad§inger tlk 22:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's time to archive. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 16:34, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Sara Watkins

Article(s): Sara Watkins

Request: Since the article is about the musician and not the back of that guy's head... -- Chris 06:57, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: How's this ? I got rid of both heads and adjusted the colour as well, she was looking a bit blue :-) > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 07:25, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You, sir, are a genius, and I bow to your Buddha nature! I call this one done, and very quickly at that, thank you! Chris 07:40, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

History of laser intensity

Article(s): To replace jpg version on Laser

Request: Please note: I uploaded this on Wikipedia first by accident; the correct file is now on commons. The idea here was to replace a jpeg graph on the Laser article. I ran into some trouble along the way: Inkscape believes that there are arrows at the ends of the axes, and also on the lines that indicate points on the graph, but the Wikimedia software doesn't render them. Also, I don't know a really good way to represent mathematical formulae in SVG, and every time a font changes, my superscripts go haywire. --Slashme 14:49, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Don't worry I'm on it > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 15:57, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Right, as regards to the arrows, the arrows are an Inkscape only formatting thing, any other editor of SVG preview program won't display them, what I did was make a path of an arrow head and put them on the ends of the lines. Now for the formulae, I wasn't sure about the support of TeX or LateX in SVGs so I just converted the text to path so it will all display properly in articles. I have uploaded first the arrows made into paths (but with the text as text, not paths), and afterwards, the arrows as path (but with the text as paths). If someone wants to attempt the formulae, use the first upload i did. Hope that helps ! > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 16:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the fixes, and also thanks very much for the explanation; now I know what to do next time! --Slashme 07:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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