Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop/Archive

This is the archive of past requests to the Graphic Lab. New requests can be submitted here.
Pages in archive include: December 2006, January 2007, February 2007, March 2007, April 2007, May 2007, June 2007, July 2007, August 2007.

DonePrince's Palace of Monaco

source JPG
SVG

Article(s):Prince's Palace of Monaco

Request: I created this image and the one below for the Scottish Parliament building a while back - I understand the preference with such images is to have them in the scalable SVG format - unfortunately I had no way to convert them - I think I've still got the photoshop files, if anyone would like to parse the files? Mcginnly | Natter 10:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Well, this one is of high enough quality that I don't really see a point in conversion.--Cronholm¹⁴⁴ 11:45, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the only reason for SVG-ification would be to reduce file size, and the same for below. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 14:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not the only. SVG also makes files simpler to edit, including for localization. ~~I'll go ahead and start on this one - just the sort of menial job I could use ATM. ¦ Reisio 04:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)~~ Actually I will go ahead and start on this one if you relicense as public domain. ¦ Reisio 07:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good point; I hadn't thought of that. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 15:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the license - like I said, if it's less work for you guys I can send the photoshop files - seems I can export as png from photoshop if you'd prefer that also. regards --Mcginnly | Natter 08:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Probably won't make any difference. ¦ Reisio 20:37, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To me, it looks like a tricky and time-consuming task to completely do manually. Unless someone else takes up the work that Reisio started, your best bet might be to upload the original Photoshop files to the Internet somewhere and post a link. They may be of use to someone, and could save a lot of manual work. But at least, if you can upload PNG versions here to replace the JPEGs, that would also be good: as a rule, PNG is better than JPEG for maps and diagrams like this. CountingPine 01:00, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PNG is preferable to jpg however.--Cronholm¹⁴⁴ 20:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm gonna go on an unplanned hiatus, so I won't be finishing this. I didn't get that far, and anyone doing this would probably rather start from their own blank slate, but here's (32 KB) my Inkscape SVG anyways - some layers may be hidden ATM, I don't remember.. ¦ Reisio 08:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can't you just use the trace image tool in Inkscape? Not perfect, but one can tweak it a bit... vlad§inger ^tlk 00:39, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Or the fill bucket tool In the development versions... --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 07:24, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In an effort to actually complete this request, I've started tracing this in Inkscape. It might take me a while, mind. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 22:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here's what I've got so far. Not finished yet by a long way. See a higher res version at User:DTR/Sandbox. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 23:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nearly finished, just need to add the railings or whatever they are. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 14:55, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much Dave, that's great. --Mcginnly | Natter 14:36, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Upernavik cemetary

Done

Article(s): None...yet

Request: I would like to promote this picture for FP on wikicommons. However it has some noise in the sky, which I would like to have reduced. I have done the following to the photo so far.

Improved saturation by 10
Tilted to get the horizon straight
Downsampled from 5Mpixels to 3.7 Mpixels to reduce noise
Applied and unsharp mask of radius 1.0 and amount 0.7 (this increased the noise a little).

I am using The GIMP. I have tried to remove the noise by making an inverted edgedetected mask and apply this to a LAB decomposed imange in the luminosity channel for doing a Gaussian blur with radius 5.0. However it gave some strange border effect. If you are able to help me I'd be interesting in learning how such that I can do it myself on other images. I can also upload the original unmodified image if this is of any help. Thank you. -- Slaunger 23:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Well, I did it myself based on the original (yeah, I know, not very patient). Or at least I tried... -- Slaunger 08:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Done Scouting in Belarus

File:Scouting in Belarus logo.png
File:Scouting in Belarus logo.svg
pointed out the four things I see yet needed

pointed out the four things I see yet needed

File:Scouting in Belarus logo.svg

Article(s): Scouts-in-Exile, Scouting in Belarus

Request: Can you folks please make the black areas red and crisper defined? This one is about 60 years old, so the copyright is (maybe?) not in question. Thank you again! -- Chris 05:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I'll set to work on an SVG > Rugby471 ^talk ⚔ 07:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, i've done the outline, where should I upload it to, if it is copyright free then i'll upload it to commons > Rugby471 ^talk ⚔ 08:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not so sure that this image is free of copyright. PD-Russia means that the image must have been published before 1954 but the author must also have died before that date in order for the work to be PD. We don't have the name of this person, so how can we tell for sure? Logos are only PD in Germany, not in other nations, so please don't upload the file to Commons. They have deleted a ton of logos for this exact reason. Valentinian ^{T / C} 08:23, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clearing that up Valentinian. Hows this for the outline Chris ? (PS: went ahead and coloured per your instructions, added text and cleaned up a bit ( And just noticed MediaWiki's changed the font of the text when rendering the SVG, when we are happy with the position etc, i'll convert it to path so it won't change the font) ) > Rugby471 ^talk ⚔ 08:45, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just remembered to tell you guys, I am not going to be here (off on Holiday) from 23rd August till 3rd SEptemebr, sorry for any inconvenience caused. Have Fun ! > Rugby471 ^talk ⚔ 19:07, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The two leafs look very thin. The original fleur-de-lys has broad leafs with a line running down the centre. Could you make them more like the original? Valentinian ^{T / C} 19:27, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The base idea is really good, thank you so much!

As per Valentinian (nice to have a heraldist/vexillologist here!) the petals do look thin, actually part of the petals are missing in the redraw.

Also, the redraw is much more angular than the original, which though small, should have rounded edges throughout. Is there a way to start with the base image, rather than having to redraw it?

As to the font, you got the characters exactly, but they should all be upper case, not upper-and-lower. (and sans-serif like Helvetica or Arial if you have it)

That's all I see for now, thank you so much! Chris 21:31, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay 1) I've now put the extra part of the petals (don't know why I left it out ...) 2) As for the text, it is kind of hard to put it in upper case as the characters aren't english, though they may look it, could you get the Belarus's Scout Motto off the Scout Motto page and convert it to uppercase, then I can put it in 3) When you talk about the angular thing, do you mean that all the corners should be rounded on the emblem?

Anyway I off on holiday now, so don't rush to answer the questions. See you soon ! > Rugby471 ^talk ⚔ 06:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cutting and pasting from the Cyrillic alphabet article, I get "БУДЗЬ ГАТОЎ" as the uppercase version of the motto. I've uploaded a new version with that text, converted into a path so that there can be no rendering problems. I've also smoothed some of the curves a bit, and added missing background to the lower petals. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 18:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Ilmari, the text is perfect! Kiitoksia paljon! :) I've put up another graphic to point what I see still needed. Chris 02:54, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The changes I see needed are:

there should be no "crimp" at the top, the petal should be less angular
the sash should be straight on both edges, not curved
the lower petals are much smaller than in the original
the center of the bottom loop should not be red, just the loop itself

Chris 23:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Guys i'm back ! Just made the changes to the the logo as stated above & in the instructional image, how does it look ? > Rugby471 ^talk ⚔ 08:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Welcome back! If the middle petal could be a little rounder, think an onion dome, that'd be great, then the only other thing left to be done is to make all black details red. This should at the end only be bicolor. Thanks! Chris 21:34, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This okay ? Edit: If it isn't, could you draw an image that I can trace? > Rugby471 ^talk ⚔ 16:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rugby, you so rock, this is great! Thank you! Chris 21:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]