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- Wrong-body narrative (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Wildly pov article down to its title with only four primary sources supporting it, not at all sufficient coverage for a wikipedia article Snokalok (talk) 22:54, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to Transsexual#Causes, studies, and theories. TheDeafWikipedian (talk) 23:54, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- If there's POV issues here, I'm not seeing them. I see an article that summarizes the perspectives of three academics and one memoirist on a valid topic in gender studies. No one's perspective seems to be given undue weight, nor presented as objectively correct. And even if that were the case, that would be an argument for cleanup, not for deletion. The sources already cited are enough to establish WP:GNG, and Google Scholar shows plenty more that are yet to be cited, e.g. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] just to take 5 from the first page of results. Keep. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 04:00, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- Counterpoints on POV:
- 1. The term "narrative" as opposed to "theory", "hypothesis", "model", etc inherently carries the connotation of deception
- 2. We only see criticism listed.
- These two things come together to form an article inherently opposed to the concept.
- I agree however on your presentation of several more sources that GNG is probably satisfied, and believe now that the article must rather be upsourced (and have its name changed) Snokalok (talk) 17:20, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- Do reliable sources use terms other than "narrative"? Are there reliable sources (enough to constitute due weight) that take non-critical views? At a glance all of the top sources on Google Scholar seem pretty critical. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 18:04, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Tamzin Response forthcoming, I had to take a breather. The UK court ruling has emboldened every terf on the island to try pov rewriting articles on women and trans people to favor a GC view, and that’s been a lot. Anyway, reading over your sources now. Snokalok (talk) 11:57, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- If you're seeing this as a "GC view", I think you may need to step away from articles like this one for a bit, because that sounds like you're seeing ghosts. Most criticism of the wrong-body narrative comes from trans intellectuals, not TERFs. That's true both in general, and in the sources currently in the article; at least three out of the four authors are trans (not sure on Engdahl). -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 12:11, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Nono not this one, just in general I've been tired. I recognize this article is not one of those, but my energy has been sapped elsewhere and that means I had no energy to work on this section. Snokalok (talk) 12:12, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- If you're seeing this as a "GC view", I think you may need to step away from articles like this one for a bit, because that sounds like you're seeing ghosts. Most criticism of the wrong-body narrative comes from trans intellectuals, not TERFs. That's true both in general, and in the sources currently in the article; at least three out of the four authors are trans (not sure on Engdahl). -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 12:11, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Tamzin Response forthcoming, I had to take a breather. The UK court ruling has emboldened every terf on the island to try pov rewriting articles on women and trans people to favor a GC view, and that’s been a lot. Anyway, reading over your sources now. Snokalok (talk) 11:57, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Do reliable sources use terms other than "narrative"? Are there reliable sources (enough to constitute due weight) that take non-critical views? At a glance all of the top sources on Google Scholar seem pretty critical. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 18:04, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:54, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- Brian Hansen (pornographic actor) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It doesn't seem like this one meets WP:GNG. The references are not SIGCOV and most of them don't seem like reliable sources. BuySomeApples (talk) 10:25, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions.CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 12:01, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Doesn't look like the sources are significant coverage, and while I don't know if this recreated version is significantly different from the previously deleted version, it seems that the previous deletion nomination closed with the same finding and it is unlikely that much changed. silviaASH (inquire within) 12:16, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Following sources seem to be coverage significant enough, considering he has been featured in DNA magazine and made headlines in AVN and XBIZ:
- Bright, Richard (2006-08-17). "Porn Star Q&A: Brian Hansen". AVN.
- "Meet Brian Hansen". Fleshbot. 2006-04-25.
- "COLT Launches Buckshot Man Brian Hansen's Fan Site". XBIZ. 2007-02-06
- "BRIAN HANSEN The life and times and pajamas of porn's latest superstar". DNA. No. 81. January 2006.
- "Brian Hansen's Grabby Snatch". DNA Magazine #90. July 2007. p. 10. Retrieved 2025-04-20 – via Scribd.
- Rice, G. Zisk (2010-01-08). "Buckshot Man Brian Hansen Returns in 'Lotus'". AVN. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arkavirya (talk • contribs) 12:59, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- A cleanup could be done of unreliable sources, instead of deleting the entire article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arkavirya (talk • contribs) 13:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
Keep The sources are too efficient (AVN) to justify keeping the article Iban14mxl (talk) 02:03, 27 April 2025 (UTC)WP:SOCKSTRIKE Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 07:17, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Can we get a source eval?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Benison (Beni · talk) 10:39, 28 April 2025 (UTC) - Keep, passes SIGCOV Madeline1805 (talk) 13:00, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
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