Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests
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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."
- Please make sure you really need technical assistance before making a request here. In particular, if the target page is a redirect back to the source page that has only one revision, you can usually move the page normally.
- To list a technical request: Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
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Technical requests
Uncontroversial technical requests
- Awol (currently a redirect to Desertion) → AWOL (currently a redirect instead to Desertion) (move · discuss) – I am performing a split (with consensus) and accidentally created the new page at the un-capitalized title, when the all-caps version (currently a redirect page) is correct and common use. My bad! Since the page already exists, it seems I have to make a request here. Also, I'm not sure how this works, but the old title should redirect to the new one (I can re-create the redirect manually if that's best) Just-a-can-of-beans (talk) 20:28, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Fall of Zinjibar and Jaar (currently a redirect to Fall of Zinjibar and Jaar (2015)) → Fall of Zinjibar and Jaʽār (2015) (restricted by the titleblacklist, which page movers can override) (move · discuss) – per rm here Wont let me move since this title is on some blacklist. >>> Extorc.talk 06:05, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- The parenthetical is unnecessary and Fall of Zinjibar and Jaʽār seems unambiguous. Also, I note that Aljazeera uses "Jaar", what justification do you have for the extra diacritics? 162 etc. (talk) 15:48, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Template:USL Championship 2025 is invalid. Must create Template:USL Championship 2025 before requesting that it be moved to Template:USL Championship.– Please move it without leaving a redirect whatsoever to the correct title. I moved it to this title is preparation for a non-admin page move swap with the "Template:USL divisions" title. Thanks! Intrisit (talk) 22:00, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Intrisit: Page movers can only suppress redirects if it's part of a round-robin move they're performing, it's not appropriate to leave the non-redirect dangling for a potential future action by another editor. A page mover could complete the three-way move of Template:USL divisions → Template:USL Championship 2025 → Template:USL Championship, but I'm a bit confused since Template:USL divisions is a redirect to Template:United Soccer League and doesn't seem appropriate for that title. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:23, 26 April 2025 (UTC)- Well noted! But you're an admin now, previously a page mover who also had other user rights I wish I had! Since I needed an admin to execute this due to my user rights restrictions, this should have moved to the "Admin needed" section. But since you responded, AFC Vixen wanted a move from the "Template:USL divisions" title to the "Template:United Soccer League" one which I used the {{db-move}} tag (a CSD G6 sub-tag) to execute. The "Template:USL Championship 2025" title was just a placeholder since I could only move the {{USL Championship}} template over a redirect to the "Template:United Soccer League" title. Intrisit (talk) 20:54, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hugues de Payens → Hugo de Paganis (currently a redirect back to Hugues de Payens) (move · discuss) – there is a longstanding dispute about their name and origin, which we already detail in the article (§ Name and Origin and early life), and the Latin name is the only one every single source agrees upon, hence being the most neutral and common. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 04:44, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Est. 2021: I'm a bit skeptical. Not necessarily contesting but people didn't casually speak Latin by the time Payens lived, so the fact that he had a consistent written form of his name in Latin isn't that interesting for someone not known solely by their Latin letters, say. Regardless of whether he was born French or Italian, he ended up in France, no? So what's the issue with using the French name? The lede itself says he is "commonly" known that way (and used to only introduce him as such before your edits), although maybe I'm misinterpreting it... SnowFire (talk) 03:58, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- @SnowFire: Well, he actually didn't. If we ignore all theories about his early life under similar yet different names (none of them as "Hugues de Payens"), he only was in France for the Council of Troyes and to meet saint Bernard, but he basically lived in the Kingdom of Jerusalem until his death. After that, sources say he was buried in Ferrara, Italy, as you can check at Death, and even French authors cite that. Blaise de Pagan, Pierre Dupuy, etc. Note that the Italian name was already well attested before the 16th century, while no source has ever used the current French name before the 19th century altered "translations" by Paulin Paris. Yet we can't be sure about anything about him, even the Portuguese claimed him, so I think the Latin name, shared and agreed upon by all sources, is the most neutral, besides the most frequent among all sources. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 09:18, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Est. 2021: I'm a bit skeptical. Not necessarily contesting but people didn't casually speak Latin by the time Payens lived, so the fact that he had a consistent written form of his name in Latin isn't that interesting for someone not known solely by their Latin letters, say. Regardless of whether he was born French or Italian, he ended up in France, no? So what's the issue with using the French name? The lede itself says he is "commonly" known that way (and used to only introduce him as such before your edits), although maybe I'm misinterpreting it... SnowFire (talk) 03:58, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- Pink International Company (currently a redirect to Pink Media Group) → Pink Media Group (move · discuss) – The official name change of the company (Serbia). It can be verified in several sources inclunding the - https://pinkmediagroup.net/; https://seenews.com/companies/pink-media-group-doo-formerly-known-as-pink-international-company-doo-4269. Note: Previously, the company marketed itself as Pink International Company and as being part of larger "Pink Media Group" entity, which does not exist (anymore).--AirWolf talk 03:23, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- Shahbaz Khan (actor) → Shahbaaz Khan (currently a redirect instead to Shahbaz Khan (actor)) (move · discuss) – Unnecessary disambiguation & misspelled 2409:40E0:100A:FCBE:48E0:B1FF:FE17:78D5 (talk) 08:09, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Citation needed. 162 etc. (talk) 15:49, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Kanwaljit Singh (actor) → Kanwaljeet Singh (currently a redirect instead to Kanwaljit Singh (actor)) (move · discuss) – unnecessary disambiguation & misspelled 2409:40E0:100A:FCBE:48E0:B1FF:FE17:78D5 (talk) 08:09, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Citation needed. 162 etc. (talk) 15:50, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Gulf Coast Limited → Mardi Gras Service (move · discuss) – New name for restored train service has been officially announced. Train service is expected to start in coming months. Move has been proposed on talk page without pushback. QuincyMorgan (talk) 20:24, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose; split. These are two different services and should not share an article. 162 etc. (talk) 20:28, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Okinawa Habu (currently a redirect to Okinawa habu) → Okinawa habu (move · discuss) – Move over redirect. No objection on the previous talk page Protobothrops_flavoviridis over two months. Background: There are two snake species that are commonly referred to as "habu" or "Okinawa habu" without differentiation in common speech; given WP:COMMONNAME, the main article should be about the general usage with subsections or subarticles for the particular species as needed by toxologists to differentiate. 69 of 70 existing wikilinks were to the common name not to a particular species of the two. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 20:48, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
Requests to revert undiscussed moves
Contested technical requests
- Girl in Red → girl in red (currently a redirect back to Girl in Red) (move · discuss) – Nocaps to be consistent with artist's preferred sylisation à la xkcd. –DMartin 04:09, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- Needs discussion, including overwhelming WP:COMMONNAME evidence of the lowercase "r". 162 etc. (talk) 17:27, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- Diamante (wrestler, born 1991) (currently a redirect to Diamante (American wrestler)) → Diamante (female wrestler) (currently a redirect instead to Diamante (American wrestler)) (move · discuss) – Article moved to differentiate from the male wrestler now known as Luis Mante, following his unmasking. Propose moving article back to previous disambiguator, as there are number of male wrestlers who go by Diamante or variations of the name, such as Diamond and DMT Azul. APM (talk) 16:59, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nothing is technically stopping you from moving this yourself. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:46, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. WP:NCSPDAB asks us to avoid gender-specific language. Principe Diamante and Diamante Azul are WP:PTMs and are not ambiguous. 162 etc. (talk) 02:16, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, it does ask us to avoid that, as long as the disambiguation works well and actually clarifies something, but I don't think that's the case here. Before clicking on it and reading the page, I could never guess which Diamante the page is about, among the ones APM mentioned and many others. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 05:03, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- No objection to Diamante (American wrestler), if consensus prefers. 162 etc. (talk) 19:56, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, it does ask us to avoid that, as long as the disambiguation works well and actually clarifies something, but I don't think that's the case here. Before clicking on it and reading the page, I could never guess which Diamante the page is about, among the ones APM mentioned and many others. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 05:03, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. WP:NCSPDAB asks us to avoid gender-specific language. Principe Diamante and Diamante Azul are WP:PTMs and are not ambiguous. 162 etc. (talk) 02:16, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- AO World → AO.com (currently a redirect back to AO World) (move · discuss) – AO or AO.com is the WP:COMMONNAME as this is the trade name the company on its publicity material, and most reliable sources refer to the company as AO.com or simply AO. UltrasonicMadness (talk) 16:54, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- That website states that the name of the company is "AO Retail Limited". 162 etc. (talk) 16:55, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Khushiyan → Khushiyaan (currently a redirect instead to Khushiyan) (move · discuss) – Misspelled: Spelling as per official logo of the show on YouTube 103.87.143.249 (talk) 06:46, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @UtherSRG: you reverted the proposed move two years ago, citing it as "move vandalism", just wondering why that is? At first glance it looks plausible, and the source in the article uses the two As version... — Amakuru (talk) 14:33, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- See the article history and the talk on the offending user's talk page: User_talk:Shekhawat.1953chaitanya. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:16, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @UtherSRG: you reverted the proposed move two years ago, citing it as "move vandalism", just wondering why that is? At first glance it looks plausible, and the source in the article uses the two As version... — Amakuru (talk) 14:33, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Siti Hasmah Mohamad Ali → Siti Hasmah (currently a redirect back to Siti Hasmah Mohamad Ali) (move · discuss) – Siti Hasmah is the common name of the subject (supported by here) and the current article should be move to conform with WP:COMMONNAME. 183.171.113.23 (talk) 03:46, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- There has been a prior RM on the talk page, which arrived at the current name, so at best should be discussed. Also worth bearing in mind that her recently-stated personal preference is not to include the Siti part, although sources don't seem to necessary follow that.[1] — Amakuru (talk) 16:12, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Udo (disambiguation) → Udo (move · discuss) – Putting disambiguation as the primary target CMD (talk) 04:40, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Demotion of a primary topic does not seem obviously uncontroversial, and no rationale was provided for the action. — BarrelProof (talk) 15:46, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- When I google Udo, the top hit is our page U.D.O., not even one of the entries. The second is a person (Udo Dirkschneider), but the third is a Merriam-Webster page on a plant[2]. Other first page hits include a company, a street dance competition, and the University of Derby. Please provide your thoughts on why an SIA is a primary topic over these. CMD (talk) 01:23, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Demotion of a primary topic does not seem obviously uncontroversial, and no rationale was provided for the action. — BarrelProof (talk) 15:46, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Money Box (radio programme) → Money Box (currently a redirect instead to Piggy bank) (move · discuss) – Unnecessary disambiguator Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 21:29, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Is this obscure radio program really both notable and the primary topic over Money box redirecting to Piggy bank? Pppery (alt) (talk) 03:42, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Jean-de-Nivelle A discussion would help resolve any questions regarding the primary topic for this primary redirect target. Also - I could see other topics contending for this title, such as Donation box. I'll add the caveat that "Money Box" is uppercase, (WP:SMALLDIFFS), but that edge case is still best resolved in a discussion. ASUKITE 15:21, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- I see that User:Amakuru has retargeted the redirect to "piggy bank" in any case, leaving 50-odd links pointing to an inappropriate page. I'll let someone else fix this mess. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 20:57, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- I've fixed the links. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:55, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- I see that User:Amakuru has retargeted the redirect to "piggy bank" in any case, leaving 50-odd links pointing to an inappropriate page. I'll let someone else fix this mess. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 20:57, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Jean-de-Nivelle A discussion would help resolve any questions regarding the primary topic for this primary redirect target. Also - I could see other topics contending for this title, such as Donation box. I'll add the caveat that "Money Box" is uppercase, (WP:SMALLDIFFS), but that edge case is still best resolved in a discussion. ASUKITE 15:21, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Božidarević → Bosdari (currently a redirect back to Božidarević) (move · discuss) – Pretty much all notable members of this family are referred to as Bosdari according to modern bibliography. Kj1595 (talk) 01:09, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure this is uncontroversial... there is some brief chatter from 2009 on the talk page, in which editors suggested it should be Božidarević, and then a 2014/2015 bold move as proposed here was reverted. The premise is plausible, but it probably needs a full RM with evidence. — Amakuru (talk) 12:22, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Lukarić → Luccari (currently a redirect back to Lukarić) (move · discuss) – Same with the Luccari family whose name, like the Bosdari, is slavicized, in contradition with modern bibliography. Kj1595 (talk) 01:09, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Similar to Božidarević, a prior move was also reverted to again, probably controversial. — Amakuru (talk) 12:23, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Zaxby's → Zaxbys (currently a redirect back to Zaxby's) (move · discuss) – Correct name per website and sources Yeshivish613 (talk) 12:59, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- More of the sources have the apostrophe than do not. Bensci54 (talk) 14:23, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Agro Nocerino Sarnese → Agro nocerino-sarnese (currently a redirect back to Agro Nocerino Sarnese) (move · discuss) – the name is dashed (without a dash, it gets a different meaning in Italian) and adjectives don't get capitalized in Italian, check it:Agro nocerino-sarnese and the sources on page Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 02:41, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Ineligible for a technical move request here and must go through a full discussion as a potentially controversial move. Please see also Talk:Agro nocerino-sarnese#Requested move 20 February 2021 2. In fact, most recent move—back to the longstanding, stable article title—in the history is because Justlettersandnumbers told the admin (just three weeks after the RM) that your technical move request was against consensus. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 09:49, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Mega Man II (1991 video game) → Mega Man II (move · discuss) – Pointless disambiguator, despite its Roman numeral title being clearly distinguishable from the original NES game. MimirIsSmart (talk) 13:25, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- @MimirIsSmart, weirdly enough, I think the redirect should go to WP:RFD—not for deletion, but for consensus on its target. Seems to have been the victim of a cut-and-paste move that was subsequently fixed—so an argument exists that Mega Man 2 should be the target as a de facto {{R from move}}; this is reflected by several retargets in the page history. I also wouldn't be surprised if there is consensus that WP:SMALLDETAILS doesn't apply and to create a disambiguation page instead. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 19:33, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- The disambiguator is far from pointless. A casual reader seeing "Mega Man II" will think it's talking about the NES game that is 100x times as famous. Classic case where SMALLDETAILS doesn't work well. SnowFire (talk) 19:41, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- 1-Butene → But-1-ene (currently a redirect back to 1-Butene) (move · discuss) – IUPAC name preferred as title, also mostly referred to as such in article MimirIsSmart (talk) 15:06, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- We do not generally use IUPAC names for small molecules, as they are usually not the WP:COMMONNAME. See WP:CHEMNAME. Similar compounds are titled similarly. This would require discussion via an RM. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:33, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yamani (Shiism) → Yamani (move · discuss) – WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, no other article with the exact same title. Al-Yamani is a disamb. primarily based on Yamani. AimanAbir18plus (talk) 13:14, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- @AimanAbir18plus There is two other people with "Yamani" in their name, perhaps it would be better to move the disambiguate to Yamani instead. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 02:48, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- Die Rechnung – eiskalt serviert → Tip Not Included (currently a redirect back to Die Rechnung – eiskalt serviert) (move · discuss) – Move to English title in line with all other films in the series 2002:620D:3AF:0:1809:C26E:92DC:A7A2 (talk) 21:43, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- German name is the WP:COMMONNAME for the movie. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 02:48, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- Child of God (disambiguation) → Child of God (move · discuss) – A new DAB page was recently created, and since there is no primary topic Child of God should be moved to Child of God (novel) and the DAB moved to Child of God. Sophisticatedevening🍷(talk) 16:25, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Sophisticatedevening WP:PRIMARYTOPIC changes are not uncontroversial and the pageviews for all the links on the DAB page do not help the argument that there is not a primary topic. cyberdog958Talk 00:34, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Portsmouth → Portsmouth, Hampshire (currently a redirect back to Portsmouth) (move · discuss) – All of the other places named Portsmouth (West Yorkshire, Dominica, Ontario, Rhode Island, Virginia, North Carolina, etc. All have their title as "Portsmouth, (x); while Portsmouth, Hampshire is only titled "Portsmouth". I suggest changing that to "Portsmouth, Hampshire" to be in-line with all of the other cities. TSWindustries (talk) 20:19, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Clear primary topic. Not to closing admin Please do not start a time consuming RM; please leave it to the brand new account if they want to proceed. Timrollpickering (talk) 20:25, 28 April 2025 (UTC)