Module talk:Lang/data

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Edit request 13 December 2024

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Description of suggested change: Ripuarian language is listed as:

["mis-x-ripuar"] = "Ripuarian", -- replaces improper use of ksh in wp_languages

but Ripuarian is not a language isolate. It is a West Germanic language as

["gmw-x-ecg"] = "East Central German".

The family code should be used as a fallback.

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Error (talk) 19:29, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps. The ISO 639-3 custodian has left Ripuarian as an uncoded language so mis (Uncoded languages) is not an appropriate language tag. We use mis in the Ripuarian language article infobox. mis-x-ripuar was the result of a discussion (such as it was) at Talk:Ripuarian language § language naming inconsistencies.

gmw-x-ecg was added as a tweak of the malformed Wiktionary tag gmw-ecg (malformed because ecg is not an IANA registered extlang).

Has there been any discussion about mis-x-ripuar? Probably not. Apparently, mis-x-ripuar only appears in a handful of pages. Do we need to keep it?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 23:16, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is uncoded itself, but we know one of the umbrella groupings has a code gmw. So, labelling everything in Ripuarian as gmw is valid and more specific than mis. Just as there is no code for Proto-Indo-European but labelling everything in PIE as ine is valid and more specific than mis, and Lang/data has ine-x-proto for the specific Proto-Indo-European.

All of this, of course, if the private code is going to be used. If not, it is better deleted.

--Error (talk) 01:41, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's the question, isn't it? Except for your recent edit, mis-x-ripuar is not in use in mainspace. So: [is] the private code is going to be used?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:48, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 8 January 2025

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Description of suggested change:

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Northern Moonlight 00:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why? {{lang-fra-que}} was a wrapper template around this:

{{Language with name|fr-CA|Quebec French|{{{1}}}}}

Replacing {{{1}}} with text:

{{Language with name|fr-CA|Quebec French|text}}

Quebec French: text

When that template was deleted in favor of {{langx}}, ["fr-ca"] = "Quebec French" was added to Module:Lang/data so that there would be no visual changes to articles:

{{langx|fr-CA|text}}

Canadian French: text

Is there discussion somewhere that has achieved consensus to make this change? Link?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 24 March 2025

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Description of suggested change: Add support for additional proto-languages, under their family's ISO 639-5 codes:

Proto-Kartvelian: ccs
Proto-Uralic: urj

I ran into the need to tag these languages while performing language cleanup in Laryngeal theory. I'm certain their articles would benefit from proper tagging, as well.

Diff:

EnronEvolved^{My Talk Page} 22:32, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

{{lang|fn=name_from_tag|link=yes|ccs-x-proto}} → Proto-Kartvelian

{{lang|fn=name_from_tag|link=yes|urj-x-proto}} → Proto-Uralic

—Trappist the monk (talk) 22:57, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 24 March 2025

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Description of suggested change: Add a language code for a couple more proto-languages, also using their groups' ISO codes:

Proto-Finno-Ugric: fiu
Proto-Samic: smi

I hear Proto-Finno-Ugric a debatable proto-language these days, but I'm running into the need to tag it in Laryngeal theory.

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EnronEvolved^{My Talk Page} 23:32, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

{{lang|fn=name_from_tag|link=yes|fiu-x-proto}} → Proto-Finno-Ugric

{{lang|fn=name_from_tag|link=yes|smi-x-proto}} → Proto-Samic

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:15, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]