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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎ to Boy Scout (disambiguation). Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 08:16, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Boy Scouts

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Highly confusing. It's not a disambiguation page (there's already Boy Scout (disambiguation), with a 10-year old discussion about merging the two, Talk:Boy_Scouts#Merge_of_Boy_Scouts_(disambiguation)). It seems a set-index article, as it's just a list. Boy scouts redirects here but Boy scout doesn't. fgnievinski (talk) 01:48, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Scouting-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 01:59, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep at least for now. This information could be moved elsewhere, but I am unclear where, but until that is done it should be kept. Bduke (talk) 02:35, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Lists. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:33, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge I don't see the need for both of these dab/set pages. Reywas92^Talk 06:19, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think the point is that "Boy Scouts" is a term that is used across the world. It is not restricted to the USA. Bduke (talk)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 03:21, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Boy Scouts and Boy Scout are two related but distinct concepts. Boy Scouts refers to the umbrella of organizations within Scouting whereas Boy Scout refers to the individual member, usually called a Scout. To prevent confusing crossovers, anything referring to or containing "Boy Scout" (singular) should remain on Boy Scout (disambiguation) whereas anything referring to "Boy Scouts" (e.g. organizations related to the movement) should be on Boy Scouts. The pages should have a hatnote referencing the other DAB page. I think merging the two would make things more confusing. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 19:38, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge per Eluchil404. Having one DAB page is a more elegant solution than 2. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 23:23, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. I'd prefer a merge with Boy Scout (disambiguation) since the terms are not always carefully distinguished and Wikipedia rarely has seperate pages for the singular and plural of a term. But the preference is not strong and certainly deletion is unhelpful. The content should be preserved and the title a Blue link whatever merges or refactorings occur. Eluchil404 (talk) 04:35, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: We need to be sure of exactly where we want this merged to, if that is the going to be the outcome of this discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:08, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment To expand on my preferred outcome. All the links in this article (Boy Scouts) would be copied to Boy Scout (disambiguation); all duplicates removed; and the remaining texted copy-edited to reflect that the page is disambiguating both "Boy Scout" and "Boy Scouts". Then Boy Scouts would be left as a redirect to Boy Scout (disambiguation). I think that best reflects the fact that "Boy Scouts" is both a collective term (the usual spoken form to refer to BSA and likely other scouting organizations) and the plural of Boy Scout, and that the different usages are closely linked and not always distinguished in casual speech. Eluchil404 (talk) 00:07, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Eluchil404. Shankargb (talk) 17:35, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Boy Scout (disambiguation): Per Eluchil404. The content of the two pages is insufficiently distinguishable as to require two separate very similar dab pages. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:51, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.