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Fraternities and sororities

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. although some of the Keep arguments are not based in policy or sourcing but on the editor's opinion of this nomination. I still see no support for Deletion or any other outcome. Liz Read! Talk! 08:44, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute fraternities and sororities

List of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute fraternities and sororities (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not meet the WP:NLIST as there is a lack of independent third party coverage providing significant coverage of the grouping. PROD was removed but the issues with the article remain, so bringing it to AfD. Let'srun (talk) 03:38, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: This article has secondary sources throughout. One is Baird's Manual, the primary source about Greek letter organizations for more than 100 years. Another is the Almanac of Fraternities and Sororities, created and maintained by academics and published by the University of Illinois. Regarding,  WP:NLIST, that is covered via the Almanac, which provides information by institution. I don't have access to the cited edition of Baird's, but it probably includes information by institution as well. In addition, when the data set is itself notable, combining that group meets standards for stand-alone list articles. Consider, for example, a list of notable alumni from a college; there is rarely a secondary source that covers that list of people, but the included alumni are individually notable.
Since several of these institutional GLO lists have recently been nominated for deletion, it is worth noting that these articles exist as a part of an agreement between WP:UNI and WP:FRAT. The former felt that complete lists of GLO were too much detail for university articles and the latter liked the ability to expand the level of detail, as in the way this article provides details about each GLO. This level of detail appears to be moving this list article toward the direction of University of Virginia fraternities and sororities, which is GA status. With that in mind, this article should be seen as a work in progress that can be moved from list article status, either as is or at a later date. Rublamb (talk) 16:59, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment There has been no adequate reason for this being relisted when the responses (even when not bolded) have been for keep giving guideline-based reasons and the nomination itself being vacuous. We should not treat low quality nominations as having credibility. Thincat (talk) 12:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I agree with Thincat that the nomination is vacuous. This is a solid article, with solid secondary sources and more available as Wikipedia is a work in progress. Deletion for the sake of Deletion is harmful to Wikipedia's mission. In this case, the rationale for deletion is so thin that it is absurd. Jax MN (talk) 23:01, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. ✗plicit 01:36, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Johns Hopkins University student organizations

List of Johns Hopkins University student organizations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not appear to meet the WP:NLIST due to a lack of third party coverage of the list as a grouping, and also is a case of WP:NOTPROMO as this reads like promotional material for the school. PROD was removed with additional sources added but they appear to only be concerned with fraternities and sororities, not student organizations. Let'srun (talk) 01:29, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:48, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of University of North Carolina at Charlotte student organizations

List of University of North Carolina at Charlotte student organizations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject lacks the necessary coverage of the grouping from secondary sources (not the university itself or a student newspaper) to meet the WP:NLIST. A PROD was removed with the claim that there are many sources available, but I couldn't find any to support the notability of this list. Let'srun (talk) 23:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Lists, and North Carolina. Let'srun (talk) 23:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This discussion has been included in the DelSort list for: list of Fraternities and sororities-related deletion discussions. Jax MN (talk) 00:48, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - This nomination was offered AFTER two significant references were added, confirming notability and accuracy. While yes, they are from the University, they are operationally distinct from the organizations themselves and are secondary in nature. Student organizations, normally operating without fanfare, are typically not the subject of national news. Nevertheless, on their campuses and in their communities, they remain notable. Some exist for as long as the college has existed. To summarize, this is a list class article, and a work in progress. Deletion would serve no purpose. Jax MN (talk) 00:20, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Student clubs and organizations are not inherently notable. Plus anything published by the university is not independent because it's either written by the students or the administration. Conyo14 (talk) 07:33, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The clubs and organisations listed which have links are not unique or specific to the university itself. Fails WP:NLIST. Ajf773 (talk) 22:57, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per all of the above: student clubs, being overwhelming run of the mill, must show why they are unique and that there’s significant coverage. This is a longstanding consensus here - 16 years ago or even earlier, we deleted a similar list of student government officials at Louisiana State. Bearian (talk) 02:53, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move: The Greek letter portion of this article (fraternities, sororities, and honor societies) is cited to secondary sources and can stand on its own concerning notability. My suggestion is to remove the unsourced content and retain the sourced content under the name "List of University of North Carolina at Charlotte fraternities and sororities". This would be consistent with the treatment of similar content for other institutions in Wikipedia. Trimming and moving the article would take advantage of the efforts of other editors and would be easier than starting a new article about GLOs at UNCC from scratch. Rublamb (talk) 17:18, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV/WP:NLIST. Oppose move. Not seeing the need to save anything as all but one of the Greek life sources are primary sources to the websites of the various fraternities and sororities. That doesn't substantiate having a "List of University of North Carolina at Charlotte fraternities and sororities" because they are not independent sources. If someone were to create a list of this type, they should not be using any of these materials. The only useable source is Baird's Manual of American College Fraternities, but that is not online and is only verifying two of the organizations. There isn't enough here worth saving to make it worth moving. Better to start over fresh. Best.4meter4 (talk) 02:27, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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