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August 28

01:21, 28 August 2023 review of submission by Wsjimmys

Why did u decline Wsjimmys (talk) 01:21, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@wsjimmys: to be blunt, your draft is a hot mess. ltbdl (talk) 02:26, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
U know right ur suppose to be kind and besides others can edit it Wsjimmys (talk) 03:01, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Wsjimmys: this draft, as well as you other ones, has been deleted; I would advise you not to create any more of such nonsense. You're welcome to contribute in a constructive manner, but this wasn't it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:46, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

04:23, 28 August 2023 review of submission by Albughu

how to merge this article into chandrayaan 3 article 

Albughu (talk) 04:23, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Albughu: there is no particular process, and no formalities needed as this isn't yet an article, only a draft; simply edit Chandrayaan-3, and add whatever information and sources you wish from the draft. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:50, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Chandrayaan 3 article already mentions that it was the first to land on the lunar south pole. 331dot (talk) 07:54, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

07:37, 28 August 2023 review of submission by Chauhan72

Dear Sir, Thikana Barothi is an under of Jawas or State of Mewar... I write in about thikana Barothi,plzz accept Wikipedia page Thanks Chauhan72 (talk) 07:37, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chauhan72 Your draft is completely unsourced. 331dot (talk) 07:53, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

07:40, 28 August 2023 review of submission by RMSTitanlc

i'm confused i added a source to the page, he played a role in rescue efforts. RMSTitanlc (talk) 07:40, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • RMSTitanlc I fixed your link(you were missing the "Draft:" portion). You have one source; to pass this process most reviewers look for at least three sources with significant coverage to be summarized in the draft. 331dot (talk) 07:51, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    so i need to find 2 more soruces? RMSTitanlc (talk) 07:55, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    So you are going about this backwards(see WP:BACKWARD); you should first gather the sources and then summarize them, not look for sources to support what you have already written. But, yes, most reviewers will look for at least three sources to have been summarized. 331dot (talk) 08:09, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    You say that this man played a "key role" in the Titanic response as first officer but don't say what that role was. 331dot (talk) 08:10, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    so should i look for what Dean did aboard Carpathia during the rescue efforts? RMSTitanlc (talk) 08:29, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes. 331dot (talk) 08:31, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @RMSTitanlc: if this gentleman's 'claim to fame' is that he was a major player in the Titanic's rescue efforts, then that needs to be fleshed out considerably; at the moment this is covered by a single sentence ("He is known for being the First Officer aboard RMS Carpathia he played a key role in the evacuation process.") which doesn't even mention the Titanic. And, as 331dot has already explained, that fleshing out needs to happen by way of summarising reliable published sources. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:43, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    so just give an explanation an backstory of Titanic or something and add more detail to the article? RMSTitanlc (talk) 09:27, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    You should give what sources say was his role in the Titanic rescue operation. You described it as a "key" role. Did he direct rescue operations? Issue any important orders? I do find it curious that no one has written about this man before now; RMS Carpathia mentions many actions of the captain, but none from the first officer; it could be that sources might not support a standalone article about the first officer, but that he could be mentioned in the article about his ship or about the Titanic disaster. 331dot (talk) 09:33, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

08:14, 28 August 2023 review of submission by Umepand99

We currently lack a sufficient number of articles written for the CCaaS platform on wiki. I am working on creating a page for CCaaS providers, and I would greatly appreciate your assistance. Could you please help us with this? Umepand99 (talk) 08:14, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Umepand99 Who is "we" and "us"? Only a single person should be exclusively operating your account. Your draft consists of a sentence fragment and two urls which I assume you intend as sources; this will not be accepted as an article, which is why it was rejected and won't be considered further. Please see Your First Article and Referencing for Beginners. 331dot (talk) 08:16, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We means I ( Umeshpand99) Umepand99 (talk) 08:20, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Umepand99 Please read HELP:YFA. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 08:39, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Umepand99, We currently lack a sufficient number of articles written for the CCaaS platform on wiki immediately sounds as if your purpose is telling people about the CCaaS platform, rather than improving Wikipedia. That is called promotion. If there are subjects connected with this platform that (each) meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then Wikipedia wants to have articles on those subjects. If there are not, then Wikipedia does not want, and will not accept, articles on them. ColinFine (talk) 15:46, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

09:59, 28 August 2023 review of submission by Bruce954

I actually seek help from the Wikipedia help desk when it was rejected the second time and they requested I re-summit it with this sources [1] [2][3][4][5][6][7] I'm still shocked, it still been rejected. He is an inventor that has received recognition globally even from Nigeria President Muhammadu Buhari, Amazon (company), Techstars Accelerator Los Angeles, and has been featured by TechCrunch, []Business of Fashion]]. If I am to humbly suggest, this needs to be critically looked at by another experience editor aside from the editor constantly rejecting it.Bruce954 (talk) 09:59, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruce954 It might have been wiser for the reviewer to have allowed someone else to review it. However, I do understand their rationale. From what is present, including references, I am finding it hard to see how he passes WP:BIO.
Jamiebuba do you have any further comments, please? 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 13:11, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Timtrent I appreciate you for your response, and respect to your first line of reply that Jamiebuba he should have allowed another editor to look at it instead, than constantly giving other editor no clear head to take a good look at it. On this article when it was rejected by him I seek advice from other experience editor on their talk page and also came to the tea house twice before those reference was requested I used instead. The subject in questions has received significant coverage outside of Nigeria with loads of over 30 awards to his name that huge and has been featured international including by Princeton University , World Economic Forum, Junior Chamber International6th European Union–African Union Summit Stellenbosch University CNN etc he has loads of reference to back all this up including all the awards. I still humble request for this subjects to be looked at critical inline with the references. He should be able to pass either any of these or all if I'm not mistaken WP:GNG , WP: Basic, WP:Anybio. Bruce954 (talk) 22:03, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Bruce954 One of the major problems is the slew of adverts that your references hurl at the reviewer trying to validate them. One also linked to a scam. Another changed before my eyes into something else. So forgive me if I find them difficult to trust.
Fewer, good quality references would change my mind. See WP:CITEKILL and WP:BOMBARD. A fact you assert, once verified in a reliable source, is verified. More is gilding the lily. Please choose the very best in each case of multiple referencing for a single point and either drop or repurpose the remainder.
Please approach me on my talk page once you have slimmed the references down, and I will take a long look at the draft. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:14, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

10:45, 28 August 2023 review of submission by Imanluk

Please control Jamiebuba he is on the loose.

Jamiebuba, I can see you are on a mission against my articles. I published this article (Igun Street) and it was moved to draft with some suggestions on improving it. I am in the middle of that and you have rejected it without giving me a chance to address the areas identified.

What authority have you to reject articles because in your own view they should not be on Wikipedia. My last article you rejected meets Wikipedia sources guidelines on use of oral history. You rejected it on the grounds that the person is not notable enough. Yet there are people on Wikipedia with simple two sentences biographies because they have an OBE. The one you rejected was the Chief Royal Blacksmith of the Benin Kingdom who worked across a large part of that area.

History records that do not allow oral tradition sources as you are claiming that Wikipedia does is not reliable and is biased against other cultures of the world. Without oral historical sources where would the world be today? I suggest you take a couple of basic history lessons before you reject any more articles. Your view on Wikipedia is dangerous because it is racist against many cultures of the world that are not current Western media topics.

Finally why is it your duty to pursue my articles on Wikipedia and reject them? Imanluk (talk) 10:45, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Imanluk No-one has rejected Draft:Igun Street.
Jamiebuba has rejectedDraft:Prince Aigbogun Omeike
Coming here to complain about someone in the manner that you have is uncivil. Please ameliorate your tone, or no-one will listen to you. Read WP:NPA, please. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 11:11, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Editor has been warned formally on their talk page about lack of civility. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 11:16, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I remain concerned about the editor accusing another of racism in their penultimate paragraph, and again on their own talk page (this diff). Had it been once I might have considered a casual insult, but doubling down on it may require intervention by an admin. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 11:24, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Timtrent Personally, while reviewing the article I noticed that the draft in question is infact not about a notable subject. I attempted to find sources myself to add but on a search even on GBOOKS there is not a mention of the subject. The links used are from Weebly sites which is probably created by whoever is trying to get the article done. At this point, I would reject it a second time if i had the chance. My grandparents are of African descent, so am not being racist. I've only come across this user once but i have a feeling they may have another account seeing how they lashed out over a review which i did for a non-notable subject. Jamiebuba (talk) 12:57, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jamiebuba I also have reservations about the article,though I performed "borderline acceptance" on it (see its talk page). If you offer it to AfD I will remain neutral.
I am more concerned that you have been accused twice of racism. I feel that any further action is yours to take, not mine, so I have carefully let it stand in plain sight. My own opinion on abuse is to keep it visible. I have my own policy about this my talk page. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 13:03, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Courtesy link Igun Street 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 13:05, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Igun Street seems ok, so no comment on that. Jamiebuba (talk) 13:24, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

12:41, 28 August 2023 review of submission by GeorgeSeaks

Can someone do a review for this article? It has been awaiting a second review for more than 4 months now. Thanks! GeorgeSeaks (talk) 12:41, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@GeorgeSeaks: for the record, it has been waiting slightly under 4 months (resubmitted on 3 May), but yes, I take your point that it has been waiting quite long. Alas, we have well over 4,000 drafts awaiting review, and they are not processed in any particular order, so it could be another while; please remain patient. Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:49, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@DoubleGrazing: Thank you for the swift action. -- GeorgeSeaks (talk) 14:04, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

13:36, 28 August 2023 review of submission by NicholasCarver

Hello. I have made the necessary edits as per the recommendations by the community. The article, while shown as "under review" has not changed status in about a year (there was some confusion as I created a duplicate article by mistake, which has now been deleted). This confusion may have caused this edited article to go to the bottom of the pile. Would you be able to get this a second look and either (1) post it or (2) inform me what is required to get this done? Thank you. NicholasCarver (talk) 13:36, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@NicholasCarver: there is no 'pile' or 'queue', there is rather a 'pool', meaning drafts are not reviewed in any particular order. You have resubmitted this (on 23 June) and it is awaiting review, please be patient; we have over 4,000 drafts pending. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:39, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

13:53, 28 August 2023 review of submission by Jamesinhere

what happened - Draft article got rejected (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Foundit.in&oldid=1150484128) with below comment:

Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Monster.com instead.

Here editor referring to USA based Monster entity however Region specific Monster entity got sold to Quess corp in Jan 2018 (https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/quess-corp-acquires-monsters-business/article22613035.ece) and rebranded Monster in South East Asia and Middle east region with a different name (foundit) https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/jobsearch-portal-monster-rebranded-as-foundit-becomes-talent-management-portal/articleshow/95715997.cms?from=mdr, with Ownership change there is no direct linkages between Monster.com USA and foundit (Formerly Monster in South East Asia and Middle East).

I need help from someone to review and conclude that now Monster.com USA and foundit are 2 different entities and can have a listing on wikipedia, also need a fair review on the information listed on page and offer guidance.

Why I need help - seems questioning on nature of edit from reviewer leads to COI and even after denying it nothing would happen. Hence want neutral opinion from other reviewer and help in review. 

Jamesinhere (talk) 13:53, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jamesinhere Do not use any supposed AI text generator. They usually create high quality gibberish 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 15:51, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

14:41, 28 August 2023 review of submission by 161.22.53.36

Hi, We used Chatgpt for additional content indeed. What sources are you refering to, so that we can edit or delete them.

What else needs to be done in order to get this informational page published? 


161.22.53.36 (talk) 14:41, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Do not use any supposed AI text generator. They usually create high quality gibberish 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 15:47, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing you can do, IP editor. Your draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. You are welcome to improve the existing articles Algorithmic trading or Automated trading system but do not use ChatGPT. Qcne (talk) 16:24, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

14:44, 28 August 2023 review of submission by Rebekkin

I am now at a loss for what else to do for this article to be approved. I have tried to provide as many references as possible to support the information, including a biographical book about the subject. Thank you. Rebekkin (talk) 14:44, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It has been rejected so will not be reviewed again and as previously notified " Wikipedia is not a Facebook link collection" Facebook is NOT a reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 14:51, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the Facebook references are the actual Facebook page of the respective band clubs. (Some have their own web site and others have a Facebook page). Other references are made to a Facebook page on the subject (Antonio Micallef) referring to documents confirming information about the subject. In this respect, all links refer to reliable sources. Rebekkin (talk) 15:25, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry but that is not the case, see WP:RSPFACEBOOK. Theroadislong (talk) 15:35, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Rebekkin I see you have at last removed the Facebook references, but alas the vast majority of the remaining sources do not even mention Micallef? I fear you are wasting your time. Theroadislong (talk) 17:21, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your comment. References 1, 3, 6, 8 and 10 include biographies about Antonio. Reference 1 refers to a biographical book on Antonio Micallef published on Amazon in paperback and Kindle formats (ISBN 9798512574454). In order to provide more clarity I will remove all references that do not mention him. Hopefully it will look better. Rebekkin (talk) 17:38, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

15:10, 28 August 2023 review of submission by Sergemaurice

can i have the points who are considered unreliable? Sergemaurice (talk) 15:10, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sergemaurice Any site with user generated content is unreliable. This includes Spotify, Youtube, Facebook etc. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 15:40, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

15:31, 28 August 2023 review of submission by 2600:6C44:1A3F:CBFC:3CF1:4B71:5BF6:2B17

Hi - The article was rejected for a lack of reliable sources. The article is about an alternative tuition model for higher education that is appearing across the country. I was told not to link to the universities' tuition pages as sources, but those are the primary sources. What is a more reliable source than the university websites? 2600:6C44:1A3F:CBFC:3CF1:4B71:5BF6:2B17 (talk) 15:31, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to have ignored the comment made by the reviewer. If that is not the case please confirm that you have. Then consider what question you really wish to ask 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 15:42, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, can you help me understand the comment? The comment was twofold: a) there are errors in the sources that need fixing and b) "you should not be linking random University finance pages." I didn't mean to ignore the comment. My question is: Are university tuition pages legitimate sources? 2600:6C44:1A3F:CBFC:3CF1:4B71:5BF6:2B17 (talk) 15:53, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi IP Editor. Every one of your sources has the Help:CS1 errors error. To resolve this error, remove the external link from the identified parameter. As for the External Links section - it's not clear why you have linked those specific finance pages. Were you wanting to use them as a reference? In which case they should be in the References section, although they are primary sources so probably shouldn't be used. Qcne (talk) 16:21, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks. I'll fix the links and I appreciate the clarification, but I don't want to fix the links if the sources aren't going to be accepted.
Yes, I want to use the university finance pages as sources. They are primary sources, but the article is about an alternative tuition model that's being used across the country. It's not a fringe idea, schools like UC Berkeley and Ohio State are using this tuition model. How can I write about the tuition model if I can't link to the university web pages? There are not many articles about it. This is a major trend happening in higher education and deserves a wikipedia page. 2600:6C44:1A3F:CBFC:3CF1:4B71:5BF6:2B17 (talk) 17:53, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia articles paraphrase what reliable, independent, secondary sources say about a subject. If There are not many articles about it then it is simply WP:TOOSOON for there to be a Wikipedia article. Note that no topic inherently deserves an article: all articles must be backed up by reliable and independent sources.
I would recommend waiting until reputable places (newspapers, journals, etc) discuss this new tuition model in detail and provide some sort of analysis, interpretation, or discussion. Then you can paraphrase those sources and use them to make up the content of your draft. Qcne (talk) 17:57, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

15:42, 28 August 2023 review of submission by Rebekkin

The article was rejected. Where do we go from here? Do I need to start a fresh (revised) entry with other references? Rebekkin (talk) 15:42, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Rebekkin first discuss the rejection with the reviewer. You might persuade them to rescind the rejection 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 15:45, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You would need to remove/replace, the 9 x Facebook references and the 4 x YouTube references to start with. Theroadislong (talk) 15:50, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I can do that, no problem. Rebekkin (talk) 16:34, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Rebekkin, please note that Wikipedia accounts can only be used by a single person. Your use of the word 'we' implies you might be sharing your account or representing an organisation? Qcne (talk) 16:19, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am the only one using this account. 'We' in this context is a figure of speech. Rebekkin (talk) 16:29, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for clarifying. Qcne (talk) 16:30, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

15:56, 28 August 2023 review of submission by Chauhan72

Sir this is an all real plz accept Chauhan72 (talk) 15:56, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chauhan72 So am I, but an article about me would also be rejected. This doesn't even look liken article, as you can see. Please read Help:YFA and start afresh 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 16:15, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Chauhan72, you were repeatedly asked to provide sources but re-submitted the article despite not doing so. Read WP:VERIFY closely. Qcne (talk) 16:18, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:15, 28 August 2023 review of submission by Ankitsingh620

i worked as a assistant director Ankitsingh620 (talk) 16:15, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ankitsingh620 do you have a specific question? Your article has been rejected as you do not meet the threshold at WP:NPEOPLE. Qcne (talk) 16:17, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:16, 28 August 2023 review of submission by Kadoon2013

This article page has been a accepted. Kadoon2013 (talk) 16:16, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Kadoon2013, no it has not been accepted, it was rejected. Qcne (talk) 16:17, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

18:01, 28 August 2023 review of submission by Rooghu

how to publish this article 

Rooghu (talk) 18:01, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Rooghu, you cannot: it has been rejected and will not be considered further. Qcne (talk) 18:02, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

August 29

00:21, 29 August 2023 review of submission by NooterSuper

Hi, I tried to make a draft for this page and it was declined because the reviewer said it “didn’t exist” even though it clearly did, so how do I prove him wrong? Also check Springfield Gardens LIRR station just for extra proof. NooterSuper (talk) 00:21, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@nootersuper: then surely you can find sources proving it exists? ltbdl (talk) 00:34, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
NooterSuper (ec) I fixed the link to your draft. If you have reliable sources that show this station existed, please offer them. Any article about this station should summarize what is said about it by reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 00:38, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

04:50, 29 August 2023 review of submission by Reid1801

My draft was rejected on 26 August with the claim that:

The draft cannot be accepted as it heavily relies on Oliver [i.e. the subject] as a source. Using an article's subject as a source in a Wikipedia context is only allowed if an article doesn't primarily rely on the subject as a source. Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 06:26, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

There are two problems with this ruling. One is that the draft contains 17 references to independent reviews of Oliver's work, references that backup the substantive claims about his work that are made in the draft. In this sense, the draft does NOT rely on heavily on the subject himself.

The second problem is that the other references cover his biography and are based on his published autobiographical memoir. These references are unavoidable when it comes to the biography of minor literary writers because (unlike major writers) no one else has written biographies of them. If you look at writers listed on the wikipedia list of Australian poets at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_poets you will find that in many of the entries, the biographical information comes either directly or indirectly from the poets themselves. There are no alternative sources.

This leaves Wikipedia with two unattractive options. The first would be to cull about half of the Wikipeda pages for minor but distinguished people in many fields (and not just the field of poetry). This first approach would reduce the utility of Wikipedia immensely.

The second option would be to retain their pages, but remove most of the biographical information. This would also greatly diminish Wikipedia.

Incidentally, if you are going to be consistent in ruling against references to a person's published autobiography, you will need to remove most of the biographical information in the Wikipedia page on St. Augustine, since that information comes directly or indirectly from his 'Confessions'.

So my question is: What do you want me to do? Do you really want me to remove the biographical information?

I point out, again, that it is based on a published memoir and is thus a verifiable source. I also point to the many reviews of Oliver's work as evidence that he meets the notability standard and deserves a Wikipedia page. I could list another hundred reviews, if that is in doubt. Reid1801 (talk) 04:50, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Reid1801: just because something is published, doesn't mean it is necessarily reliable. Anyone can write and self-publish their own autobio, making whatever claims they wish about themselves. (Obviously I'm not saying this person's autobio is unreliable, only that it could be.) Closer primary sources can only be used to verify entirely uncontentious statements, and cannot be used to establish notability.
Another point: reviews of Oliver's work may may his work notable, but that does not, in and of itself, make him notable, as notability is not inherited or otherwise transferred. It could be that if the critical reviews are exceptionally significant, this may potentially satisfy WP:POET #4, but that bar is quite high and we would need to see clear evidence that it has been met. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:42, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

07:58, 29 August 2023 review of submission by Viviinnovatives

Hello Team , I am requesting to approve articles. I have given all required reference to validate source of truth. The reviewer doesn't understand source truth. I have given all the information to validate the truth of the information in the article. Please review and approve it.

Example - https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/the-road-to-tokyo/article35911428.ece https://m.dinamalar.com/detail.php?id=2828566 Also Mr Seshadri Nathan Sukumaran was conferred with the esteemed KALAIMAMANI title, the highest honor bestowed by the Government of Tamil Nadu, accompanied by a Gold medal. 

Viviinnovatives (talk) 07:58, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Viviinnovatives: you have cited Wikipedia several times, which you cannot do; Wikipedia cannot be a source for itself. You have also cited YouTube, which is user-generated and in most cases not reliable and/or independent. You have also left some of the content unreferenced (eg. which source gives this person's DOB?). Therefore the draft was correctly declined for being insufficiently supported by reliable sources. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:24, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
PS: I might add that it is rather disrespectful to accuse a reviewer of not "understanding", when this draft has in fact been declined by two separate reviewers, who between them have 20+ years and 40,000+ edits under their belt, and in any case wouldn't be AfC reviewers without a pretty good understanding of the various guidelines and policies. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:29, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

10:00, 29 August 2023 review of submission by Vozaba85

Hi, I'm not sure what the issue is and why the draft keeps getting declined. Do you have anyone who can assist in editing this page in a way that would suit Wikipedia? Please let us know and we will gladly provide all the details. Vozaba85 (talk) 10:00, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Who is "we"? Only a single person should have access to your account. Do you represent this professor or his university? The reviewers have left message on the draft telling you what you need to do. 331dot (talk) 10:04, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Vozaba85: have you read any of the decline messages? They will give the reason(s) for declining. In short, far too much of the content is unreferenced, and there is no evidence that the subject is notable. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:04, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

11:36, 29 August 2023 review of submission by 122.168.29.85

actully this is the new concept about brassets (i work on it to make perfect) if you want to know more about brasset let me know. 122.168.29.85 (talk) 11:36, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Wikipedia is not the place for WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH. Qcne (talk) 11:42, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If you wish to tell the world about your inventions, try some social media or blogging site. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:44, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

12:59, 29 August 2023 review of submission by 149.241.253.112

Hello I was hoping to get some help with this creation of a page, I know it needs articles that are valid/relevant/verified however I believe I have provided them from Forbes, CNBC etc, would anyone be able to give guidance? 149.241.253.112 (talk) 12:59, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's not the sources themselves that are the issue, but their content. They largely discuss the routine business activities of the company(like the raising of funds) and do not go into detail about what makes the company important/significant/influential as a company as the sources see it. 331dot (talk) 13:23, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

13:44, 29 August 2023 review of submission by Chevsi

Good afternoon, Can you please advise what changes are required to this page in order to have a successful publishing? Thanks Chevsi (talk) 13:44, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

15:00, 29 August 2023 review of submission by Hondapolo

This person does not seem to have much media coverage. How will I get Independent sources for citation/reference? But all his works are verified by authentic sources like architect associations and institutions. He seems to be a deserving person. I am trying to add people who are experts in their own field and are not recognised by the mainline media. I am a novice in Wikipedia editing. Please help. Hondapolo (talk) 15:00, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid that neither all his works are verified by authentic sources nor He seems to be a deserving person is of any relevance in deciding whether to accept a draft into Wikipedia. Wikipedia has articles on things that exist and things that don't exist (and some hoaxes!), on deserving and thoroughly undeserving people. What is required is that several people wholly unconnected with the subject should have chosen to spend time researching and writing about the subject in depth, with a quality of care, independence, and fact-checking that a publisher with a reputation for editorial control and fact-checking has been willing to publish them.
If you can find at least three such sources, then there can be an article, which should be based almost entirely on what those independent sources say.
If, as you suggest, such sources do not exist, then there cannot be an article about him, because there is literally almost nothing which can be put into an article. ColinFine (talk) 16:07, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

15:03, 29 August 2023 review of submission by Arjun162

I need time to find "reliable sources" to cite. Arjun162 (talk) 15:03, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Arjun162: assuming nobody tags this for speedy deletion, you have six months from the last human edit, before the draft gets automatically deleted.
That said, sounds like you're going about this the wrong way. You shouldn't first write what you want, and then try to find sources that support what you've written. You should first find reliable published sources, and summarise what they've said about the subject, citing each source as you go; there's your article and your referencing done! -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:07, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Firstly, thank you for notifying me about the time. I would like to tell that I have not "written what I like" but carefully gathered my information from sources directly and indirectly related to academic field and the educational institution "Sita Shiromani Degree College". There are few colleges in Prayagraj (formerly Allahabad) that provide quality education and are not owned by Central or State government. This is a notable institution, familiar to everyone in Prayagraj. I am currently looking for proper sources I can cite on Wiki. If there is any other advice, please let me know; I'd be glad to learn and improve. Arjun162 (talk) 18:44, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

15:20, 29 August 2023 review of submission by 14.139.207.130

why are you rejecting my artcle again and again, what's the problem on that ? 14.139.207.130 (talk) 15:20, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that there is no suggestion that the subject is notable, and even less evidence. Wikipedia is a global encyclopaedia, not a social media or blogging platform where anyone can tell the world about themselves and their cat, or generally write whatever they want. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:27, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is NOT a potential article, you are NOT notable by Wikipedia standards. Wikipedia is not a social media website. Theroadislong (talk) 15:28, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

15:37, 29 August 2023 review of submission by AMISH14

how to fix this error An error occurred (TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'pages')). Please try again or refer to the help desk. AMISH14 (talk) 15:37, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@AMISH14, I have declined your draft as it is not written in an encyclopaedic way at all: it is full of language that is completely inappropriate for Wikipedia. Qcne (talk) 15:51, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also your mentor here on Wikipedia. You also must follow conflict-of-interest and paid editing disclosure policies, as they are required on Wikipedia. ~~2NumForIce (speak|edits) 16:33, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:07, 29 August 2023 review of submission by Humphrey.Mulberry

Hello, I have updated the links, enlarged the submission with all secondary sources from notable media outlets. I have reviewed all his contemporaries at BBC Radio Manchester and believe Jsky's page is far more qualifying. Can you kindly approve or offer further specific guidance. Humphrey.Mulberry (talk) 16:07, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am pinging the rejecting reviewer, @S0091. Qcne (talk) 16:35, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Humphrey.Mulberry I started a discussion at Draft talk:Jsky so join me there. (Stop giving me more work @Qcne, lol). S0091 (talk) 16:55, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
♥ Qcne (talk) 16:57, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17:09, 29 August 2023 review of submission by HikingManiac2010

I've asked for advice a couple times now, please have an admin/help desk person email me! Please!!! Thank you!! HikingManiac2010 (talk) 17:09, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @HikingManiac2010. Sorry no one has replied to your requests for help on your User Page.
Unfortunately your attempts at a draft have been rejected. Musicians must pass the strict WP:NMUSIC threshold, and unfortunately Lynn does not pass that threshold.
Even if she did pass that threshold (she does not.) you have vast swathes of her biography completely unsourced. This is not permitted on Wikipedia, see WP:BLP. Every single statement should have been backed up by an independent and reliable source.
I'm afraid this is the end of the road: there will be no article on Wikipedia for Lynn at this time. Qcne (talk) 17:45, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If I can provide more sources in my article in my Sandbox, can I resubmit the article later, if I cover all of the required parameters under WP:NMUSIC? Thank you! 2605:59C8:1C5:7800:E9E6:F5B5:DC6A:C5D3 (talk) 17:51, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You seem to have accidentally logged yourself out, FYI.
Since it's been rejected, you'd have to appeal to the rejecting reviewers directly (@CNMall41 or @Theroadislong). Do that by posting a message on their User Talk page, or WP:Ping them. Qcne (talk) 17:55, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Your sources are VERY poor quality [8] is a single passing mention, [9] is a single passing mention and [10] appears to be user edited so not reliable. We need in-depth significant coverage in reliable, [[WP:IS|independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 18:02, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

18:18, 29 August 2023 review of submission by Aisamiscool8315

Can you publish my page into a article. the tv show is real Aisamiscool8315 (talk) 18:18, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Aisamiscool8315. The answer is no, sorry. Wikipedia articles are only about topics that meet our strict WP:GNG requirements: you and your show do not meet that criteria. Qcne (talk) 18:57, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
WHY DID YOU DELETE MY PAGE Aisamiscool8315 (talk) 08:47, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Do not shout. Your page was deleted as contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Please very carefully read WP:NOT. Qcne (talk) 08:53, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
whats wrong with that?! Aisamiscool8315 (talk) 19:00, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not for you to tell the world about your show. 331dot (talk) 19:06, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
>:( Aisamiscool8315 (talk) 18:11, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Aisamiscool8315 I get that you're just a kid and so maybe don't have real world experience of Wikipedia: but this encyclopaedia is a serious project run by serious volunteers. We have strict guidelines - including behavioural guidelines. If you want to contribute not in a WP:SPAM-ey way, then great! Otherwise I'd recommend logging off and coming back when you are a little older. Qcne (talk) 18:15, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
im only 12 years old. :( sorry for shouting. i wont be making articles for a while. if im 13 years old. i'll retrun. and if the tv show is popular in the future, publish my tv show article. Aisamiscool8315 (talk) 19:13, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
i sometimes get some anger issues Aisamiscool8315 (talk) 19:14, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

21:10, 29 August 2023 review of submission by Warezalex911

Hi, I'd like to know how to get this page over the line as I believe there are sufficient independent references for the page. Warezalex911 (talk) 21:10, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The reviewers disagree with you, which is why they rejected the draft. If something has fundamentally changed about the draft, you should first attempt to appeal to the last reviewer.
You declared a COI with regards to Mr. Bird, what is the nature of it? 331dot (talk) 21:21, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]


August 30

00:05, 30 August 2023 review of submission by Marcosfv2020

Dear Wikipedia Admin,

I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to kindly request your assistance in reviewing and providing guidance on a Wikipedia page I have created for Filevine, a legal tech software company. As a dedicated Wikipedia editor and administrator, your expertise would be immensely valuable in ensuring that the page adheres to Wikipedia's high standards.

I have put considerable effort into crafting a comprehensive and accurate article about Filevine, drawing inspiration from similar pages for software companies like CLIO. Given the similarity in nature and scope between Filevine and CLIO, I believed that a Wikipedia page for Filevine would also be compliant.

To bolster the credibility of the article and its alignment with Wikipedia's content guidelines, I have tagged the article with several relevant WikiProject tags, including:

WikiProject Companies WikiProject Computing WikiProject Technology WikiProject Software These tags were added with the intention of providing a solid framework for the article's context and structure, in line with Wikipedia's standards.

However, before proceeding further, I would greatly appreciate your expertise in reviewing the article to ensure that it meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, neutrality, and verifiability. Your insights and guidance would help ensure the accuracy and compliance of the article.

I understand the importance of maintaining the quality and integrity of Wikipedia's content, and I am committed to making any necessary edits or adjustments to align with the community's expectations.

If you have the time and willingness to assist, I would be very grateful. Your expertise and feedback would be a tremendous asset in contributing to the reliability of the information presented.

Thank you for considering my request. I look forward to your response and appreciate your commitment to maintaining the excellence of Wikipedia's content.

Best regards, Marcosfv2020 (talk) 00:05, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Marcosfv2020: the draft has been resubmitted and is awaiting review, please be patient. That said, I did have a quick scan of the sources, and found nothing that would amount to WP:GNG notability, as they all seem to be just routine business reporting and primary sources. Looks like you only added one source, and a pretty useless one, since the last decline. I'd say you either need to improve your sources significantly, or expect this to be declined again. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:05, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Marcosfv2020 Be aware of other stuff exists. It could be that the other articles you used as a reference are also problematic and you would be unaware of this. As this is a volunteer project, it is possible for inappropriate content to get by us and be unaddressed for years. We can only deal with what we know about. If you want to use other articles as a model or example, use those classified as good articles, which have been vetted by the community. 331dot (talk) 19:59, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

02:54, 30 August 2023 review of submission by Vianzo

Dear Sir/Madam,

I would like to request that the draft biography I have written in Bahasa Indonesia be submitted to the Indonesian version of Wikipedia. Can you assist me in resubmitting it to Wikipedia Indonesia?

Kind regards 

Vianzo (talk) 02:54, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Vianzo: sorry, no. Each language version is a completely separate project. You will have to go to the Indonesian Wiki and submit it there. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:00, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

07:10, 30 August 2023 review of submission by StrawberryChi'sCake

I don't know where to put the citations because she didn't show me what she did StrawberryChi'sCake (talk) 07:10, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

StrawberryChi'sCake, your draft lacks references to reliable, independent sources that devote significant coverage to this book. Please see WP:NBOOK for what is required. Cullen328 (talk) 07:15, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@StrawberryChi'sCake For a beginner-friendly guide to citations, see WP:REFB. Ca talk to me! 14:16, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

13:14, 30 August 2023 review of submission by OruVattamKoodi

This is a new article regarding a new film releasing soon, so we don't have any resources to add under reference and citation. Can I publish it? 

OruVattamKoodi (talk) 13:14, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@OruVattamKoodi: no, you cannot publish it, and if you did, it would either be sent back to drafts or deleted. Unreleased films are invariably not notable. In any case, a draft/article must be supported by reliable sources; yours has none.
I will also post a message on your talk page about conflicts of interest; please read and action it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:21, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

13:15, 30 August 2023 review of submission by 159.148.48.1

This term is used extremely often in social media and in interpersonal communication. I think it's only logical that wikipedia describes what this word means to help wiki users understand what someone else is talking about. 159.148.48.1 (talk) 13:15, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This draft has been deleted, and your other one is pending deletion. Please do not create more of the same. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:19, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:02, 30 August 2023 review of submission by 103.237.36.81

how can i solve this please help me 

103.237.36.81 (talk) 16:02, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing to solve? The subject is not notable so we cannot have an article about them. Theroadislong (talk) 16:05, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Zahidul, Wikipedia is not a social networking website. You cannot have a Wikipedia article. Qcne (talk) 16:12, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:29, 30 August 2023 review of submission by KatiaApati

How can I improve my content KatiaApati (talk) 16:29, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The content is blatant advertising please use other means to promote this. Theroadislong (talk) 16:31, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Left my standard deletion notice. Perhaps it will be both helpful and informative. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:54, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17:00, 30 August 2023 review of submission by Berber.Enjoyer2

Hello ! thank for fast response i wanted to know why it's say my draft should be sourced with source and not wikipedia the last source i putted came from a webstite that resume all the war and i wanted to know how to take the good url to redirect to the good line ! t Berber.Enjoyer2 (talk) 17:00, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, @Berber.Enjoyer2, could you try re-phrasing that: I'm not sure what you mean?
Unfortunately you also seem to have copied a large amount of the text from [11]https://journals.openedition.org/cdlm/8011#ftn1. This has now been deleted as a copyright violation. I am sorry I didn't pick up on this when I first reviewed it. You should have paraphrased the article, not copied it indiscriminately. Pinging the second reviewer, @ARandomName123 Qcne (talk) 17:25, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes sorry i'm right now paraphrased the article i hope it will be accepted Berber.Enjoyer2 (talk) 17:26, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
When doing so, please take care not to paraphrase it too closely. Instead, summarize it in your own words. WP:PARAPHRASE may be helpful. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 17:43, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think there may be some confusion about my decline. Before I noticed the copyvio, I declined it for reliable sources. The comment I left (this is probably what you're talking about) was The background and negotiation sections are sourced to this draft. They should be sourced to reliable sources, not Wikipedia. See WP:CIRCULAR. I removed this decline and replaced it with the cv one when I noticed the copyvio. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 17:38, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again ! thank for helping me creating my draft, i finnaly finish it and i think now it's better and it have better source like a comptoprary source and a whole website Berber.Enjoyer2 (talk) 20:10, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

18:42, 30 August 2023 review of submission by User18762

My submission has been rejected for the lack of third'party sources. I would like to confirm that the number of independent sources in the revised version is sufficient. User18762 (talk) 18:42, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will note that you inappropriately copied the image of her from her website; her website states "all rights reserved" meaning it is incompatible with Wikipedia's license(which allows for reuse for any purpose with attribution). It will need to be deleted. 331dot (talk) 20:01, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Adding on, CC BY-NC-SA 4.0, which is what the photo is licensed as, is incompatible with Wikipedia, per WP:COMPLIC. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 20:35, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Image license issue has been resolved. Released under CC-BY-SA 4.0 per her webpage. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 21:42, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've left a reply on your talk page. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 20:45, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

21:22, 30 August 2023 review of submission by Azunna4u

I had an entry refused with the reason that the references doesn't show significant coverage. Most of the items are from newspaper publication making me repeat it severally but in specific places, I quoted specific references like being students union president where I referenced the handbook with the information (He was actually the first African students union president at West Ham). I have a copy of that hand book here with me. I need help on how to remedy this. The person in questions deserves this as he was a forerunner in many instances Azunna4u (talk) 21:22, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Azunna4u I fixed your link, you were missing the "Draft:" part. 331dot (talk) 21:42, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You have done a great job summarizing thjs person's accomplishments, but that's not what we are looking for; we are looking for significant coverage in independent reliable sources, coverage that discusses what makes him important/significant/influential as a person. 331dot (talk) 21:45, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for fixing my link. I improved on the references but was declined again. If you can, please look at it again and advice. Thanks. Azunna4u (talk) 14:57, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Azunna4u: the only secondary source you're citing is the first one, and it's not enough. We need to see significant coverage of him in multiple (= 3+) independent and reliable secondary sources. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:04, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @DoubleGrazing. I'll need more advice please. When you write about things that happened pre internet (especially in Nigeria) it becomes a bit tough with what I'm seeing here. The other ones are secondary sources but unfortunately are hard copies and cannot be accessed from the internet. For example, I have the 1959 student's union handbook right before me here and it talks about the subject extensively. So do the other hard copies. What's the best way to deal with this? Azunna4u (talk) 15:24, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Azunna4u: sources don't have to be online (or in English, for that matter); offline sources are acceptable, as long as they otherwise meet the quality requirements in WP:GNG, and are cited with full bibliographical detail to enable them to be verified by others (see WP:OFFLINE for more info on this).
That said, a student's union handbook doesn't sound like a secondary source to me. Please revise WP:SECONDARY so you're clear on what sort of sources we're after. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:55, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Okay thanks. I'll work on it again. Azunna4u (talk) 17:26, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

22:49, 30 August 2023 review of submission by 2402:4000:12D2:7D85:D10C:AB11:B901:BA77

Why u rejected my draft 2402:4000:12D2:7D85:D10C:AB11:B901:BA77 (talk) 22:49, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not social media where people tell the world about themselves, you should do that on actual social media. 331dot (talk) 23:00, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

August 31

04:10, 31 August 2023 review of submission by Sankar raja 123

I am new here, I have done the things best of my knowledge and made that article and still it has some flaws.....so, kindly request for help Sankar raja 123 (talk) 04:10, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sankar raja 123: your article needs to be based on reliable published sources, and you need to cite those sources so that readers can see where the information is coming from and verify it if needed. See WP:REFB for advice on referencing. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:04, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

04:52, 31 August 2023 review of submission by 111.92.125.131

How we can publish this wikipedia page? 111.92.125.131 (talk) 04:52, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, please log into your account when editing.
Secondly, who is "we"?
As to your question, you could and should have listened to all the advice that was offered during the numerous reviews, and improved the draft. You didn't. Therefore it has now been rejected and will not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:00, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

05:51, 31 August 2023 review of submission by Jujupiter

I would like to add a picture of the artist unfortunately, I don't know where I can get a picture free of rights for Wikimedia. I have messaged him on Instagram, contacted his music label and even the studio that did a movie with him and no one has replied. How do people usually do? Is there a specific service or a way to get in touch with photographers...? Thank you for your help 🙏 Jujupiter (talk) 05:51, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jujupiter: we can't really help, as we don't have any special access to images here at the help desk. If you cannot find a suitable image, then don't add one; it isn't important, in that it has no bearing on this draft's chances of being accepted.
Just to say also that contacting third parties asking for photos is a bit pointless. Even if they send you a copy, you still wouldn't be able to use it, because it remains under their copyright. They would have to expressly release it under a compatible licence, which they are probably unwilling to do, and even if they did, you would have hard time proving this. In fact, they as the creator and copyright owner would have to upload it and release the rights. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:11, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thank you. I did ask them for a picture free of rights, hoping maybe they would be happy to release one but indeed, it was pointless. Jujupiter (talk) 06:48, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

07:21, 31 August 2023 review of submission by 117.121.211.195

We include several external links, not limited to those from Wikipedia or our own sources, as recommendations for the Wiki page and request permission for publication. However, the commit button is invisible, and our only option is to 'Ask for advice.' Could you kindly offer your guidance? 117.121.211.195 (talk) 07:21, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The submit button is unavailable because I have rejected this draft, rather than merely declined, meaning you can no longer submit it for review. At the time when I reviewed this, the only references were to the university's own website and to Wikipedia articles. I can see that you have since then added a few other references, but these are still not enough to establish notability, and I therefore stand by my rejection. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:35, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

08:38, 31 August 2023 review of submission by Bavile

Hi, it's the first time I have created an article. I'm not sure how to create the table of contents so that I can then populate this with the summary and other information? Bavile (talk) 08:38, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bavile: the TOC gets created automatically, once there are four (IIRC) or more section headings. You can also force it (on and off), although normally you shouldn't. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:41, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@DoubleGrazing Apologies but I don't yet have any section headings and not sure how to begin updating my draft article with these? I looked for guidance information on this but it didn't seem obvious where this info is? Bavile (talk) 09:00, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Bavile: never mind no section headings, you don't seem to have any content, if this Draft:Mellatron is the draft you're referring to. Create the content, divide it into sections with MOS:HEADINGS, and the TOC will follow. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:03, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@DoubleGrazing Yes that's the draft that I have opened. Many thanks I will creating content and try using the MOS: HEADINGS to divide it as you have advised. Bavile (talk) 09:08, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@DoubleGrazing Thank you again for the technical advice earlier but apologies again I unfortunately accidentally prematurely submitted my draft article before I had finished adding citations etc. I fully understand you rejecting it. I will endeavour to not submit it again before it's ready for submission. Just checking apart from lack of citations and links, whether the layout is ok now? If it correctly has the MOS Headings etc as you explained earlier? Bavile (talk) 13:37, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Bavile: it has no section headings, other than the 'References' one. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:41, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

09:52, 31 August 2023 review of submission by Hisonlysoneditor

please accept it sir . this is a famous artist and a actor who has workvery hard and he has reknowed as Artist Ashish Rawde He Has Work In Many Films And Many Songs in current he has worked as Ishamel ( in only son) and the indian film bande utkala janani please accept it sir Hisonlysoneditor (talk) 09:52, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hisonlysoneditor: we don't review articles on demand; this is awaiting review, and will be assessed when a reviewer happens to pick it up. Although having said that, I can tell you already now that it will not be accepted, as there is no evidence of notability, and it is also entirely promotional. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:56, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hisonlysoneditor What is your association with him, since he posed for the picture you took? 331dot (talk) 10:01, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There are zero reliable independent sources in the draft and the content is laughably promotional in tone. Theroadislong (talk) 10:07, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

11:29, 31 August 2023 review of submission by Bilaldj7

Please let me know the reason for rejection. Bilaldj7 (talk) 11:29, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bilaldj7 I fixed the link to your draft(you were missing the "Draft:" portion). Your draft was only declined, not rejected. "Rejected" has a specific meaning here, that a draft may not be resubmitted. "Declined" means that it may be resubmitted. The reason for the decline was left by the reviewer at the top of your draft. Do you have a question about it? 331dot (talk) 11:33, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Bilaldj7, I am the decliner. Your draft does not read like a Wikipedia article, it reads like an essay. That is inappropriate for Wikipedia. Qcne (talk) 11:39, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

11:55, 31 August 2023 review of submission by Falia2

What can I do to get this article accepted? Falia2 (talk) 11:55, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Falia2- nothing, sorry. It has been rejected and won't be considered further. Qcne (talk) 11:59, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Falia2: what is your relationship to this subject? I asked this on your talk page a week or so ago, but you have not responded. Please do so now. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:08, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have no relationship with it, its just a company that created a snowboard machine for Quebec winters Falia2 (talk) 12:41, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
what can i do? Falia2 (talk) 12:56, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As stated, nothing, as the draft has been rejected. Sorry. Qcne (talk) 12:58, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

12:29, 31 August 2023 review of submission by Bine Gruen

Hi, I am currently creating a new article. Here are my questions: 1. In the menu, "cotnribute" is not active and I cannot access the function. 2. I would like to work in the visual editor mode, but it this function is not visible to me, only read and source mode. 3. I would like to insert in the article a picture, but without the visual editor I do not know how to manage. If my question 2 cannot be solved, I would need the source code for inserting the image. Thanks for the help 

Bine Gruen (talk) 12:29, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Bine Gruen: I can't help you with regards to the visual editor, but someone will hopefully come along shortly who can. In the meantime, I can't help noticing that your draft is entirely unreferenced, which means that the information cannot be verified, and also that there is no evidence that the subject is notable. Those are both hard requirements for a draft to be accepted (whereas images and other 'nice to haves' aren't), so my advice would be to focus first and foremost on referencing your article fully. Please see WP:BLP, WP:GNG and WP:REFB for advice on articles on living people, the general notability guideline, and referencing, respectively. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:39, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks for your advice. It is meant to be a biography rather than a topic article. I try to gather some references and try to argue the importance of the person. Bine Gruen (talk) 12:45, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Bine Gruen: I'm not quite sure what you mean, articles are articles regardless of the topic; if anything biographies on living people have stricter referencing requirements, as explained in WP:BLP.
It sounds like you may be trying to go about this BACKWARD, by first writing what you want, and then trying to support it with sources. What you should do is find some sources that are reliable and independent, and provide significant coverage of the subject, summarise (in your own words) what they have said, and cite each source against the information provided. This gives you both your article content and the necessary referencing. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:52, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

13:22, 31 August 2023 review of submission by LittlePerson10

I don't know, I cited the most reliable source I could find. Maybe do I need to cite a link to the game on the Google Appstore as it says what the game is about on there? LittlePerson10 (talk) 13:22, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@LittlePerson10: no, linking to the app store blurb would not help at all, as that is merely the app developer/marketer telling you what they think you want to hear in order to download the app. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:51, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Where do I cite it to then? Theres not really much places to cite it to. LittlePerson10 (talk) 16:13, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That is a strong indication that the topic is not notable so we do not require an article about it. Theroadislong (talk) 16:16, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

13:35, 31 August 2023 review of submission by Askthebamaphoenix

I am trying to understand why my article was deleted about a social media presence. There are many Wikipedia pages dedicated to other social media personalities yet mine was deleted. What I was attempting to do is set up a few wiki pages regarding social media personalities that fight for social justice and equality. So, can you tell me what is wrong with that? When y'all literally have a page dedicated to. ones that have done nothing other than just become popular. If it is simply a question of reformatting or adding notations. Please let me know because these are people who have put themselves in danger to fight for and stand up for other people. This was the first of several that I was going to add but I did not want to go through all the trouble of adding them if they were going to be deleted. Please advise and if possible, not in technical terminology please. Askthebamaphoenix (talk) 13:35, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Askthebamaphoenix: if you mean  Courtesy link: Draft:Bama2Dads, that was deleted as promotional. And I can see that in  Courtesy link: User:Askthebamaphoenix/sandbox you're about to repeat that. This is a pretty sure-fire way to get yourself blocked, so I would advise caution. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:50, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Askthebamaphoenix, I rejected your original draft and marked it for speedy deletion. Unfortunately you do not meet the very strict WP:NPEOPLE or WP:NORG criteria. Further attempts to make these articles will also be rejected, I am afraid.
Wikipedia has millions of articles and unfortunately many are poor quality and would not be permitted on Wikipedia if submitted today. Qcne (talk) 14:06, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about people who do good things. 331dot (talk) 18:34, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure is a difference between an article on people like this and people like Charli D’Amelio? Both are articles about social media presence. However, your platform is yours to run as you see fit. It’s worth noting that there are other social media personalities who do more than just review clothes and makeup. Some try to help communities and make the world a better place. It’s similar to mainstream media; if you’re not famous for being famous like the Kardashians, they don’t care. This was just my attempt to add articles about people who are trying to make the world a better place. That way when kids are searching for information, they can see other examples besides the ones that live their lives for the drama and scandals. Again, thanks for the consideration.
If nothing else here is a list of a few people that are trying to make a difference and they are doing it without the scandals. Bama2Dads, Ileavebreadcrumbs, Zman, Pottymouthpollyanna, Juanfoster, and lioness.with.the.mane2, etc. These were some that were going to be articles but at least maybe you can look at them and see their contributions. Thanks Askthebamaphoenix (talk) 15:57, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Askthebamaphoenix The difference is likely to be that the articles that remain have people saying things about them in multiple reliable sources that are independent of them
I do good works, but an article about me would not be accepted
We do have a significant number of articles that are below our standards. We are but few and they are many. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 16:05, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

13:45, 31 August 2023 review of submission by Falia2

What can I do to make this page work? I am not affiliated to this product Falia2 (talk) 13:45, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Falia2: why do you keep asking the same question, and opening a new thread? As already advised (twice), this draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:47, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17:49, 31 August 2023 review of submission by The Phil Pixie

This is my first article I've created from scratch....Is this now ready for review, is there anyhing else that needs to be added? The Phil Pixie (talk) 17:49, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Phil Pixie. Your brief draft fails to make the case that this company meets the notability guideline for companies. An acceptable Wikipedia article about a company summarizes significant coverage of the company in reliable, independent sources. Neither of your references meet that standard. Cullen328 (talk) 17:58, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

22:04, 31 August 2023 review of submission by Ogoos11

Remove this article from draft section Ogoos11 (talk) 22:04, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. If you were to attempt to place it in the encyclopedia yourself, it would likely be deleted. You'll need to move on from this. 331dot (talk) 22:08, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Ogoos11 Have you thought about being somewhat more polite. It will not affect the outcome, but it leaves us with a better impression of you. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 16:07, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

September 1

03:37, 1 September 2023 review of submission by Queenvictoria

I would like to know how to communicate with the decliner (Jamiebuba) so that I can correct the article. Do I contact them directly on their talk page? Do I add an AFC comment below theirs on the article? Or do I communicate on the subject here? Or on the articles talk page?

I see that they view the NYT and Forbes articles as trivial mentions. Should I remove the sentence that cites them and remove the citations?

Thanks in advance. Queen Victoria (talk) 03:37, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Queenvictoria You do not need to remove them, you just have to provide additional sources that discuss the subject indepth. NYT is a Reliable sources but we require sources that demonstrate the subject is indeed notable. Jamiebuba (talk) 06:10, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

12:58, 1 September 2023 review of submission by 31.223.116.133

I have recently communicated with the artist. He states that he has now an interview online, as well as credible accomplishments. Is this enough for a Wikipedia page 31.223.116.133 (talk) 12:58, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've no idea what draft you're referring to, as your edit history shows nothing, and there is no Draft:Georgie P. But no, an interview cannot be used to establish notability (assuming that's what you're asking about?), so this wouldn't help in any case. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:01, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17:50, 1 September 2023 review of submission by 39.34.177.206

they have many valid citing. 39.34.177.206 (talk) 17:50, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, your article has been rejected and will not be considered further. Qcne (talk) 18:32, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

17:52, 1 September 2023 review of submission by 39.34.177.206

I have recently communicated with the artist. He states that he has now an interview online, as well as credible accomplishments. Is this enough for a Wikipedia page 39.34.177.206 (talk) 17:52, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, sorry. We need independent sources (so not interviews) and accomplishments alone don't help either (an independent, secondary source about those accomplishments would be fine though). -- asilvering (talk) 17:56, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

18:39, 1 September 2023 review of submission by Incognitopublisher

Please assist me in eliminating unreliable sources from this article. Incognitopublisher (talk) 18:39, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Any such effort would be academic, as your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 19:27, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]


September 2

00:05, 2 September 2023 review of submission by Starlighsky

I found some citations outside of the IMDB. What are acceptable sites for references? Starlighsky (talk) 00:05, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Starlighsky: the concept of reliable sources is explained at WP:RS, and some specific sources are rated at WP:RSP. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:30, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Starlighsky (talk) 14:00, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

07:24, 2 September 2023 review of submission by 87.0.57.85

Hi, can you give me some suggestions on how to make it accepted? 87.0.57.85 (talk) 07:24, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, because this draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:28, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But why? Have you ever seen this character? Do you something about it? 87.0.57.85 (talk) 07:34, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
None of that is relevant. Rejection means it won't be considered further. 331dot (talk) 09:19, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

07:36, 2 September 2023 review of submission by TechGeek105

Can you please find more references for the draft I was working on a few months ago, in order to find more information about Nothing OS? Yours sincerely, TechGeek105 (his talk page) 07:36, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@TechGeek105: no, for two reasons. Firstly, we don't do that here at the help desk, it is the draft proponent's job. Secondly, this draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:46, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fine, I will do that myself, @DoubleGrazing. Yours sincerely, TechGeek105 (his talk page) 08:04, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I just edited Nothing Phone 1#Software to include Nothing OS 2.0 information, maybe that could be added into the draft. Yours sincerely, TechGeek105 (his talk page) 08:33, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

12:25, 2 September 2023 review of submission by Dr-Manuel-Kuehner

I am not sure I understand the meaning of secondary sources, so I gathered some examples for the article of Frank Mittelbach, see below, is that good enough?

(1) https://tug.org/interviews/mittelbach.pdf (2) https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb42-2/tb131mittelbach-desouza.pdf (3) https://www.gutenberg-gesellschaft.de/die-gesellschaft/vorstand-und-praesidium/frank-mittelbach (4) https://www.latex-project.org/about/team/ (5) https://github.com/FrankMittelbach Dr-Manuel-Kuehner (talk) 12:25, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dr-Manuel-Kuehner: secondary sources are explained here: WP:RS. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:56, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Dr-Manuel-Kuehner. I will go through your references one by one:
1) this is a secondary source, but it's an interview so cannot be used to prove notability as it is not WP:INDEPENDENT.
2) this is a secondary source, but it's an interview so cannot be used to prove notability as it is not WP:INDEPENDENT.
3) this is not a secondary source, because it's Frank's employee profile.
4) this is not a secondary source, because it is Frank's team profile.
5) this is not a secondary source, because it is Frank's Github.
If these are the only sources you can find, then I am afraid Frank can not have a Wikipedia article- sorry. Qcne (talk) 13:03, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Qcne for taking the time to help me. I will try to find better sources. Dr-Manuel-Kuehner (talk) 13:37, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Qcne Hello again. I did some more research and found several secondary references, could you please have a look at the updated draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Frank_Mittelbach? Please don't mind the not-nice flow of teh content/text. For now, I focussed on the references. Dr-Manuel-Kuehner (talk) 20:35, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm really sorry, @Dr-Manuel-Kuehner, but the added references don't seem to show WP:SIGCOV coverage of Frank. I simply don't think he passes WP:NACADEMIC at this time. Qcne (talk) 12:40, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good evening @Qcne and thanks for your continued effort to help me :). I had a look at the link that you provided and criteria number 4 states "The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions.".
One could argue that LaTeX is an instrumental tool for many academic institutions (assuming you are familiar with LaTeX itself) and the fact that Frank is leading the LaTeX development for some decades would make a good case - what do you think Dr-Manuel-Kuehner (talk) 19:17, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

21:27, 2 September 2023 review of submission by Visokoblagorodie

Respected,

Since Stevan Karanac is the champion of opera at the Serbian National Theater in Novi Sad, and he sang with great stars like Željko Lučić and Nikola Mijailović, and his guest appearances on numerous National television shows, documented by links from the National Television website, were not enough for you, please direct me to the specific ones you want additional evidence as your explanations are not clear or precise. If the National Public Service is not enough for you, what is?

Best Regards Visokoblagorodie (talk) 21:27, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The only thing that is enough for us is places where people wholly unconnected with Karanac (not him, not his employers, not his agent, not the organisers of conerts or shows where he performs) have chosen to write at length about him. See notability. If the criteria listed at NMUSIC are met, that makes it likely that the person will be notable in Wikipedia's terms, but we still need several sources that meet the conditions in golden rule. ColinFine (talk) 22:06, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

22:48, 2 September 2023 review of submission by JamesKnight7

Hello, I've really improved my article and wondered if anyone would be so kind to review it again and let me know if there's any problems with it? Thank you. JamesKnight7 (talk) 22:48, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

JamesKnight7, the corresponding article in the Russian Wikipedia has much more extensive coverage of his entire career. Cullen328 (talk) 01:35, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Cullen328, thanks for the advice. I don't speak Russian but will try to make further improvements from that page [[12]] as suggested as I consider this an important missed topic. Perhaps someone who speaks Russian better than me can help contribute to the article more if you can help get it reviewed and approved? Many thanks in advance if possible. JamesKnight7 (talk) 07:39, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I could only really update his birth date because that's all that's sourced on the Russian Wikipedia. All the references there are broken - 404s or bad gateways, so I cannot really add anything from there. It's like all references to this Ukrainian guy have been deliberately deleted for some reason, perhaps to stop this page being created in English and showing the world that a Ukrainian was responsible for the Katyn Massacre of Poles and not Russian as everyone generally supposes? JamesKnight7 (talk) 08:02, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Accepted @JamesKnight7, @Cullen328 the paucity of Russian references notwithstanding, I view this draft as having a better than 50% chance of surviving a deletion discussion. However, in view of the references having been cleansed on the ruwiki, may I suggest that any potential deletion discussion be closely monitored for !vote stacking 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 08:15, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Presumably, Ukrainian nationality in those days was a citizen of the USSR. While he was by birth from Ukraine, he was under Soviet leadership and control. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 08:27, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It was the Ukrainian SSR back then but appreciated FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me. I've added another source from the UK government to try and get those chances to 52% or more. Will keep working to improve. Thank you for your assistance. Enjoy your day. JamesKnight7 (talk) 08:29, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think we can only remember that Ukraine has had a more than difficult history with predatory invaders, controllers, and a lot else we may not yet have discovered, JamesKnight7. Thank you for creating a draft that could be accepted. Now you and the community can work together instead of your ploughing a lone furrow.
Every new cited fact you can produce is an extra weight in the scale pan to help the percentage rise. The reason I refer to the 50% is the reviewer are exhorted to accept anything with a better Than 50 chance of survival. We are usually generalists, and work with acceptance criteria rather than pure article content. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 08:35, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify, I am a Conscientious Objector and understand difficult histories leading to wars and have great respect for both Ukrainians and Russians. I'm therefore also a "generalist" as you suggest and look forward to working with the community better as you have, leading by example. JamesKnight7 (talk) 08:42, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

September 3

01:12, 3 September 2023 review of submission by EMB1991

Greetings,

Per the guidelines I have completed all items necessary for submission approval. At this point in the process, what is the specific item that you are looking for and I'll get that to you pronto

Warm regards, Eric EMB1991 (talk) 01:12, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

EMB1991, an acceptable Wikipedia article summarizes the coverage that reliable, independent sources devote to the topic, and includes references to those sources. Your draft is poorly referenced and fails to make a convincing case that Miles-Baker is a notable person. Cullen328 (talk) 01:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Specifically, strange language claiming that this person is highborn; thrice blessed of Name, Title and Genetic desirability is completely inappropriate for a neutrally written encyclopedia. Who says that sort of thing, after all, and on what basis? Cullen328 (talk) 01:24, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thanks for the summation. Albeit all things true, perhaps I could sanitize a bit more. Would you be able to cut that part out? Its a point, and distinction that should be kept internal.
Thank you kindly,
Eric EMB1991 (talk) 01:48, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

02:16, 3 September 2023 review of submission by Qaziquza

The article was rejected because it is contrary to the purposes of Wikipedia—specifically, because "This is thing you google for home work qustions [sic]." I think otherwise, because Wikipedia already has many articles of the type in question. Could someone provide further input? Sorry if this is the wrong place/this is a breach of Wiki etiquette. Qaziquza (talk) 02:16, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Qaziquza May I suggest it be merged with Orders of magnitude (force) unless and until sufficient material can be found for an independent article? You may make these edits yourself. @OlifanofmrTennant: do you have any thoughts on this, since you rejected the draft? 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 08:55, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with a merger. I think none of these Order of Magnitude () pages make sense. Most of them are just example pages. :ᗡ OLI (she/her) 08:59, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
They're pretty typical List-class articles, no? I've found them helpful for understanding scale, anecdotally. Qaziquza (talk) 10:18, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
W.r.t a merge, I think I'll just find more material—I really think that the article could be useful distinct from force. I'm new to Wikipedia policy, so if that's not alright, please do let me know. Qaziquza (talk) 10:22, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've accepted it. I apologize for my unfair rejection :ᗡ OLI (she/her) 18:01, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

08:24, 3 September 2023 review of submission by Jverne2000

   Can you please help me with this article so that it is accepted?
   I do not understand why. All of the sources are footnoted with references to putlished articles and interviews.
   Thanks.  Jverne2000 (talk) 08:24, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jverne2000 The reviewer, Superboilles has referred you to WP:MUSICBIO. Have you asked them what they found lacking? 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 08:30, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

10:30, 3 September 2023 review of submission by Jaiseva750

tribal hockey player Jaiseva750 (talk) 10:30, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jaiseva750: that's not a question; did you have one in mind you wanted to ask? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:31, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The draft was declined because there is currently no indication that the subject is notable under our WP:NATHLETE guidelines. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 13:12, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

15:07, 3 September 2023 review of submission by EMB1991

Hi,

I just submitted a new edit, also, I need create an "Ancestors" portion to the wikipedia page and was wondering if I could be granted access?

Please assist. Eric EMB1991 (talk) 15:07, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You appearto be writing about yourself- while not forbidden, it is highly discouraged, at least in part because people naturally write favorably about themselves. Please read WP:AUTO.
I'm not sure what it is you want access to, but your draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not for telling fictional accounts about ourselves. 331dot (talk) 15:29, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Draft deleted, user blocked. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:36, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:49, 3 September 2023 review of submission by Inna Ogiievska

Thank you.@Qcne You checked it right away, and I really appreciate the time you spent on this verification. Please help me understand which specific source is unreliable among those mentioned in the article so that I can remove it. Inna Ogiievska (talk) 16:49, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy ping: Qcne (note to @Inna Ogiievska, just @'tting doesn't work). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:02, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Have replied on my Talk Page :) Qcne (talk) 17:08, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:53, 3 September 2023 review of submission by Arian Tazwer

Why My Articale Rejected Arian Tazwer (talk) 16:53, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Arian Tazwer: let's turn this around... can you tell me any reason why it shouldn't have been rejected? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:57, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

20:21, 3 September 2023 review of submission by Drthorgithecorgi

I'm fairly inexperienced at creating article. I think that this journal is notable, but I don't know how to provide more links to meet the standard. Some assistance would be appreciated! Drthorgithecorgi (talk) 20:21, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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