Wikipedia talk:User scripts/Archive 7

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"Same as the above" style descriptions are not ideal

There are a number of descriptions written with some variation of "same as the above" / "see above" / "like the above" which presumes that the linear list organization of the current page is static (or at least consistently ordered) and that records will not be copied individually to other locations. The introduction of the toolinfo.json scraper for this data breaks that assumption. I would like to suggest that folks update their descriptions to be somehow less dependent on reading order. Each case will of course be slightly different, but one typical solution could be to replace the "above" mentions in descriptions with the names of the scripts being extended or adapted to new use cases. --BDavis (WMF) (talk) 17:36, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

@BDavis (WMF): Started to do this with Special:Diff/1059750942 ― Qwerfjkltalk 11:25, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Should we recommend script-installer?

Right now all the installation instructions use the manual method. script-installer is pretty simple, though... maybe we should just point people towards that? Enterprisey (talk!) 06:42, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes. – SD0001 (talk) 11:32, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

I've thought about removing the installation instructions from the list altogether. As much as I do prefer the new layout, the instructions stick out like a sore thumb (as did they in the old layout). While we're at it, I wish script-installer didn't rely on IDs (see User talk:Enterprisey/script-installer#id vs data-). Nardog (talk) 12:16, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes those "How to install" links are atrocious. It's better to generalize the installation instructions, rather than include it for every script. – SD0001 (talk) 15:46, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Absolutely. There's no reason for people to be mucking about editing js files by hand. The more standardized and automated you can make this, the better. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:04, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

@Enterprisey @Nardog @RoySmith @SD0001 I think script installer can been run from the documentation page with a link like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:User_scripts/Archive_7.js?withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-script-installer.js, which doesn't require script installer to be installed. ― Qwerfjkltalk 18:33, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Very true; I think recommending that people actually install script-installer would still be helpful, because of course it allows them to easily uninstall and otherwise manage the scripts. Enterprisey (talk!) 07:24, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

@Enterprisey: Using some styling Ed6767 made, I created {{Script install button}}. ― Qwerfjkltalk 11:30, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

@Qwerfjkl, cool. It's very red, though... I always thought of installing scripts as more of a blue or green action, y'know? Enterprisey (talk!) 07:20, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

@Enterprisey: I just moved the styling to Template:TemplateStyles sandbox/script-installer button.css. Feel free to edit either the styling or the template as much as you want, I don't mind. ― Qwerfjkltalk 13:04, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Enterprisey, {{Script installer link}}. Also, if you can add a display:none class to script-installer a link like that could be added to {{Infobox Wikipedia user script}} and subsequently hidden if script-installer is enabled. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 13:11, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Nardog (talk) 00:47, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

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