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Duplication of "Introduction to referencing with Wiki Markup"

This help page is now just an exact copy of Help:Introduction to referencing with Wiki Markup, except embedded section by section onto a single page. The line breaks don't look great that way, and the example "References" section looks like it's one of the main sections.

Why don't we just redirect to the other Help page? --Lord Belbury (talk) 18:32, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lord Belbury (and thanks for the edit you made earlier; it's definitely a plus)! The reason for the page's setup is that there's some history of controversy over whether or not we should be splitting tutorials over multiple pages. Those in favor argue that it's a usability best practice to keep pages short, whereas those opposed argue that it's the norm on Wikipedia to have everything on a single page. The data about which method gets more people to read all the way through is lacking. Until that question is resolved, having both options available is the stalemate compromise. I agree that it's not ideal with the line breaks; perhaps we should just get rid of those in the main tutorial or find a way to code them that doesn't transclude. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 23:29, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the line breaks are quite bad here, if we're presenting this as a help page for very new users (it's linked from {{uw-unsourced1}}) and suggesting that quadruple spacing between paragraphs on a regular-looking Wikipedia page is fine. I wouldn't know where to start on fixing that, though. --Lord Belbury (talk) 10:46, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Lord Belbury, I'd start by posting on Help talk:Introduction saying you'd like to convert all the spacing to single-spacing. We can discuss that, and then if there's consensus, anyone can go through the list of tutorial pages and switch them over. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 00:28, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but wading into a "history of controversy" on a topic where nobody's gathered any data doesn't appeal. Good luck. --Lord Belbury (talk) 17:56, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Lord Belbury, since you posted here, there's been some follow-up. The line breaks now don't appear on the single-page versions of the tutorials, and they can be changed with a single edit to a centralized spot if we decide to. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}}talk 20:02, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Would be a great first step in making them accsible....one of many problems being ignored causing us to loss thousands of new editors.--Moxy- 00:31, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Help:REFERENCES" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Help:REFERENCES and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 14#Help:REFERENCES until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 23:09, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Potential Vandalism?

Everthing has been replaced with the number 1. THTB lol'nt (talk) 11:02, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There was an issue with a recent edit to Template:Get parameter. I reverted it, so pages using it should be fixed now. the wub "?!" 11:20, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]