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curprev 22:2722:27, 22 January 2025 Nardog talk contribs m 9,064 bytes +1,472 Reverted edits by 136.57.126.48 (talk) to last version by 2A0A:EF40:30:B001:787B:C339:4479:1DA5 undo Tag: Rollback
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curprev 19:5619:56, 12 August 2024 2a0a:ef40:30:b001:787b:c339:4479:1da5 talk 9,064 bytes +79 No edit summary undo

curprev 11:1311:13, 4 June 2024 Nardog talk contribs 8,985 bytes −78 this is indeed better undo Tag: Manual revert
curprev 10:5610:56, 4 June 2024 Dr Greg talk contribs 9,063 bytes +78 Reverted 1 edit by 2603:6011:4740:E999:14CA:ED40:ECC6:E3D9 (talk): Not an improvement undo Tags: Twinkle Undo Reverted
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curprev 07:2207:22, 3 January 2024 Nardog talk contribs 9,063 bytes +12 per talk (use-mention needs to be sorted out...) undo

curprev 12:1312:13, 2 January 2024 Nardog talk contribs 9,051 bytes −32 Reverted 1 edit by 2A00:23C7:7C9B:AB01:201C:5538:6FAE:817E (talk): Again doesn't work in most accents where it's [æ~ɛə], whereas PALM is central in many of them undo Tags: Twinkle Undo

curprev 13:5413:54, 1 January 2024 2a00:23c7:7c9b:ab01:201c:5538:6fae:817e talk 9,083 bytes +32 The 'a' in 'father' corresponds to [ɑː], which is a different vowel altogether, which moreover doesn't even occur in Welsh. The 'father' vowel is simply not the same, and the change here is a much closer approximation, which is surely the point. undo Tag: Reverted
curprev 04:0904:09, 1 January 2024 Nardog talk contribs 9,051 bytes −17 Reverted 1 edit by 2A00:23C7:7C9B:AB01:9D75:4FB6:25AB:BDC5 (talk): Doesn't work in most accents undo Tags: Twinkle Undo

curprev 18:3818:38, 31 December 2023 2a00:23c7:7c9b:ab01:9d75:4fb6:25ab:bdc5 talk 9,068 bytes +17 The 'a' in 'father' corresponds to [ɑː], which is a different vowel altogether. A long 'a' in Welsh is simply the same as that in 'a' but held for longer. The vowel is the same; the length differs undo Tag: Reverted

curprev 04:0804:08, 30 October 2023 Nardog talk contribs 9,051 bytes 0 Reverted 2 edits by 81.105.24.215 (talk): Doesn't work in rhotic accents undo Tags: Twinkle Undo
curprev 03:1803:18, 30 October 2023 81.105.24.215 talk 9,051 bytes 0 Corrected my mistake undo Tags: Reverted Visual edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit
curprev 03:1603:16, 30 October 2023 81.105.24.215 talk 9,051 bytes 0 Pronunciation wasn’t accurate undo Tags: Reverted Visual edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit

curprev 17:3317:33, 12 October 2023 WP Ludicer talk contribs 9,051 bytes −27 No edit summary undo
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curprev 17:3117:31, 12 October 2023 WP Ludicer talk contribs 9,102 bytes −9 Why italicize this? undo

curprev 01:1301:13, 26 September 2023 Nardog talk contribs m 9,111 bytes 0 show cat number undo

curprev 04:1604:16, 21 September 2023 Nardog talk contribs m 9,111 bytes −13 No edit summary undo
curprev 04:1504:15, 21 September 2023 Nardog talk contribs 9,124 bytes +53 IPA-xx deprecated undo

curprev 21:0721:07, 2 August 2023 Nardog talk contribs 9,071 bytes 0 Reverted 1 edit by Ignas Bosas (talk): 'thing' is indeed pronounced /θɪŋ/ in most varieties of English undo Tags: Twinkle Undo
curprev 17:2017:20, 2 August 2023 Ignas Bosas talk contribs 9,071 bytes 0 It would be wrong to say that "ng" stands for /ŋ/ because these two letters stand for separate sounds - "n" stands for /ŋ/ and "g" stands for /g/. Otherwise it would imply that "thing" is pronounced as /θɪŋ/ rather than /θɪŋg/. undo Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit

curprev 19:4119:41, 3 July 2023 Broman178 talk contribs 9,071 bytes +1 Minor tweaks. undo
curprev 19:3719:37, 3 July 2023 Broman178 talk contribs 9,070 bytes −73 Simplified some approximations; this is a section for English approximations where available, not a guide on how these sounds are pronounced ([ɬ] doesn't have a true phoneme in English & even if it may occur in Welsh English, its only for Welsh language loanwords). undo

curprev 22:1122:11, 12 June 2023 2601:204:e600:d60:7cf3:fc99:d82f:7d7 talk 9,143 bytes 0 Added examples to [qh], I meant. undo Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit
curprev 22:1022:10, 12 June 2023 2601:204:e600:d60:7cf3:fc99:d82f:7d7 talk 9,143 bytes +54 Added examples to [Gh]. undo Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit
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curprev 13:0313:03, 8 March 2023 Dr Greg talk contribs m 9,055 bytes +8,979 Reverted 1 edit by 95.186.141.115 (talk) to last revision by PuritoonMA undo Tags: Twinkle Undo
curprev 12:3112:31, 8 March 2023 95.186.141.115 talk 76 bytes −8,979 ←Replaced content with 'n ==See also== * Welsh orthography ==Notes== {{Reflist}} {{IPA keys}}' undo Tags: Replaced Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit

curprev 21:2421:24, 25 January 2023 PuritoonMA talk contribs 9,055 bytes +77 No edit summary undo
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curprev 15:2615:26, 4 September 2022 Broman178 talk contribs 8,680 bytes −77 Tweaked approximations; shoe is a somewhat debatable approximation for [ɬ] as the voiceless alveolar lateral fricative doesn't sound remotely similar to the Voiceless postalveolar fricative [ʃ]. The nearest possible equivalent to [ɬ] would possibly be the "thl" cluster in words like "athlete" but even then, there is no true English equivalent for this phoneme, so maybe best not to include one. undo

curprev 18:1918:19, 22 August 2022 2402:800:630f:6e5c:5965:d172:191f:8a2 talk 8,757 bytes +37 the alveolar lateral fricative of Welsh undo Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit

curprev 03:3803:38, 20 August 2022 Omnipaedista talk contribs 8,720 bytes −29 rm empty section undo

curprev 22:3522:35, 26 June 2022 ApprenticeFan talk contribs 8,749 bytes +1 →top undo
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curprev 17:1317:13, 9 April 2022 78.17.143.44 talk 8,698 bytes 0 Matched to other pages & diphthong section undo Tags: Visual edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit

curprev 17:4417:44, 3 April 2022 2a00:23c6:7c14:9801:283c:3945:d0a9:9e01 talk 8,698 bytes −138 These 'approximations' aren't voiceless, and are therefore simply not accurate as roughly similar sounds. These aren't differences of degrees, but entirely different categories undo
curprev 13:0313:03, 3 April 2022 2a00:23c6:7c14:9801:9d15:f86c:3fb0:d17a talk 8,836 bytes −33 There is no 'similar' sound in English as this sound is simply not present in the English language. undo
curprev 12:5812:58, 3 April 2022 2a00:23c6:7c14:9801:9d15:f86c:3fb0:d17a talk 8,869 bytes −5 No edit summary undo

curprev 19:3419:34, 30 March 2022 2a00:23c6:7c14:9801:ede6:7407:98d1:e7f4 talk 8,874 bytes +45 No edit summary undo
curprev 19:3319:33, 30 March 2022 2a00:23c6:7c14:9801:ede6:7407:98d1:e7f4 talk 8,829 bytes −522 Very dubious. I've never heard ɬ pronounced as ç by Welsh-speakers (I'm a Welsh linguist). The 'source' contains no verifiable facts or infomration and is no more than an unsourced opinion. It is accepted that ll = ɬ - this is not disputed. undo
curprev 19:2719:27, 30 March 2022 2a00:23c6:7c14:9801:ede6:7407:98d1:e7f4 talk 9,351 bytes −13 There is simply no 'y' sound here. undo

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