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Please change by [[File:Nuvola mimetypes html.png|30px]] by [[File:Gnome-mime-text-html.svg|30px]]. [[User:Thomas Linard|Thomas Linard]] ([[User talk:Thomas Linard|talk]]) 14:32, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
:{{Done}} — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 17:04, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

=={{anchor|Edit request 20 July 2024}}Descendant WikiProject parameters==

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'''Description of suggested change:'''

Add the rest of the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Computing/sidebar|Descendant WikiProjects]] to the optional parameters (e.g, `security=yes|security-importance=Low`).  [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|talk]]) 01:17, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ETp --> – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 13:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
::Added a link in OP to the sidebar which shows a list of descendant projects to Computing. Comment is in 'add X to Y' format. [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|talk]]) 23:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
:::The NESTED parameter was missing, so this has been {{complete2|completed}} for the Computer Security project. '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I.&nbsp;Ellsworth</span>]]'''''&thinsp;,&nbsp;[[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<sup>put'er&nbsp;there</sup>]]&nbsp;<small>03:50, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</small>
::::Apologies, this is a distinct request from the one below it. Here I am referring to missing subproject parameters in the primary Computing template itself (used to mark subprojects as well as their importance via <code><subproj>-importance={Low/Mid/High}</code>). 
::::Currently missing (followed by a recommended parameter name) are:
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Apple_Inc.|Apple Inc.]] (apple)
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Databases|Databases]] (databases)
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Computer_Vision|Computer vision]] (vision)
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Information_Architecture|Information architecture]] (information-architecture)
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Intel|Intel]] (intel)
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Internet|Internet]] (internet)
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Internet_culture|Internet culture]] (internet-culture)
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_IRC|IRC]] (irc)
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Blogging|Blogging]] (blogging)
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Podcasting|Podcasting]] (podcasting)
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microsoft|Microsoft]] (microsoft)
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microsoft_Windows|Microsoft Windows]] (windows)
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_C/C%2B%2B|C++]] (cpp)
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Perl|Perl]] (perl)
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Linux|Linux]] (linux)
::::* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Desktop_Linux|Desktop Linux]] (desktop-linux)
::::[[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|talk]]) 04:20, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

:::::[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:''' has there been discussion about adding these? These additions appear to need a [[WP:consensus|consensus]]. Please achieve consensus '''before''' using the <code><nowiki>{{edit template-protected}}</nowiki></code> template. '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I.&nbsp;Ellsworth</span>]]'''''&thinsp;,&nbsp;[[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<sup>put'er&nbsp;there</sup>]]&nbsp;<small>04:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</small>
::::::This is the only discussion I've seen - I presumed it was a default behavior for WikiProject templates and their descendants, and this was simply out-of-date. 
::::::Is this post the right place to seek consensus, or should it be posted elsewhere? [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|talk]]) 04:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

:::::::This is the right place for a discussion about adding to this template, and a notification post at [[WT:WikiProject Computing]] should bring interested project members to this page to express their opinions. A search of the archives on that page might reveal past discussions about adding descendents. See also [[WP:WikiProject Computing/Templates#Article assessment and project identification]], which would also need to be updated. '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I.&nbsp;Ellsworth</span>]]'''''&thinsp;,&nbsp;[[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<sup>put'er&nbsp;there</sup>]]&nbsp;<small>05:03, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</small>
:Did not realize I had stepped into a classic WikiProject snag with this. Thank you [[:User:Paine_Ellsworth|Paine]] for recommending a search through the archives. Here is a list of similar past discussions:
:* [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Computing/Archive_4#descendant-tagging|BOLD roots]]
:* [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Computing/Archive_5#Integrated_banner_for_Descendant_Projects|proposal of the banner]]
:* [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Computing/Computer_networking_task_force/Archive_1#integrated-banner|creation of the banner]]
:* [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Computing/Archive_5#New_Proposals_for_actions|inclusion as rescuing dead projects]] - recommends ''only'' adding descendants that are dead
:* [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Council/Archive_9#Issues_with_WikiProject_Banner_Tagging|denied council proposal]] - more to do tagging ''any'' two WikiProjects, but touches on issues with bots and banners. 
:* [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Computing/Archive_7#Moving_computer_security_articles_to_Computer_Security_project|misunderstanding?]] - this one seems to imply the <code><subproj>=yes</code> syntax does not also add the article to the actual descendant project? This is hopefully incorrect, as the whole point of the unified banner is doing both. If it is not just added [[syntactic sugar]] for adding to a descendant project, I would oppose the proposal I'm making.
:* [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Computing/Archive_8#New_Child_WikiProject|descendant-by-descendant]] - recommends asking each descendant project. Don't want to create unnecessary bureaucratic processes, but might be worth asking the currently included children again as well.
:* [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Computing/Archive_12#Computing_vs._Internet_projects|similar proposal]] - went silent, same request as mine
:From browsing through these, my take-away is that a couple of bold edits created the initial banner feature, and further calls to standardize it went un-answered. The misunderstanding post is worrying, but as far as I can tell incorrect - the descendant parameters also add the article to the descendant project (e.g., [[Patch (computing)]] is [https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Computer_Security/articles?articlePattern=Patch correctly sorted]). [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|talk]]) 05:49, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
::How is the child-parent organization of projects established. Is there a database or a list or what? In other words, what is your source for your list above of missing children? ~[[User:Kvng|Kvng]] ([[User talk:Kvng|talk]]) 15:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
:::[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing/sidebar]] [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|talk]]) 20:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks. Clearly there are many cases where a child project has it's own WP banners. It is currently acceptable to use either these banners or parameters in the parent banner, if available. The question is whether we need to improve the "if available" situation. I guess a reasonable answer is, why not? I can't think of a reason why not. ~[[User:Kvng|Kvng]] ([[User talk:Kvng|talk]]) 15:01, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::Further, I believe I've seen consensus established ''against'' editors systematically altering articles to use a parent banner+child parameter, instead of multiple banners. I am having trouble finding that discussion though. [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|talk]]) 22:08, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

== Edit request 21 July 2024 ==

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'''Description of suggested change:'''
Add missing display tags to [[Template_talk:WikiProject_Computing#Edit_request_20_July_2024|descendant WikiProject]] previews in banner shell.

E.g., in the following example (now removed) both [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Software|Software]] and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer Security|CompSec]] are tagged `=yes`, but only [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Software|Software]] displays.
[[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|talk]]) 03:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

:{{complete2}} – added the missing NESTED parameter. '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I.&nbsp;Ellsworth</span>]]'''''&thinsp;,&nbsp;[[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<sup>put'er&nbsp;there</sup>]]&nbsp;<small>03:51, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</small>
::Gorgeous, thank you! [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|talk]]) 04:08, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

:::''Happy to help!''&nbsp;'''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:100%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">Paine</span>]]'''''&nbsp;&nbsp;<small>04:21, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</small>

== [[Template:User WP Computing]] straggler category ==

Bumping an [[Template_talk:User_WP_Computing#nocat|edit request]] for the userbox of this project. [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|talk]]) 22:50, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

== Edit request 26 August 2024 ==

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Add a [[WP:WikiProject Databases|WikiProject Databases]] option (i.e. <code>databases=yes</code>). 

This is a sub-proposal of an [[Template_talk:WikiProject_Computing#Descendant_WikiProject_parameters|earlier one]], split off because it is less significant. See [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Databases#Restructure_proposals|all proposals]] for WP Databases, each of which already intended to add the suggested parameter to this template. [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|talk]]) 23:33, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please make your requested changes to the template's sandbox first; see [[Wikipedia:Template sandbox and test cases|WP:TESTCASES]].<!-- Template:ETp --> &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 07:03, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 05:21, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
::Done. Left out the following lines (starting <code>|</code> omitted):
::<code><nowiki>TF_13_QUALITY = yes</nowiki></code>
::<code><nowiki>tf 13 importance={{{databases-importance|}}}</nowiki></code> 
::since it would require creating categories for the inactive project. 
::I have also added <code>networking</code> as an optional alternate name for the <code>network</code> (and <code>network-importance</code>) parameter, since [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing/Computer networking task force|the task force is called 'Networking']]. 
::The parameters will need to be added to TemplateData once implemented. [[User:Tule-hog|Tule-hog]] ([[User talk:Tule-hog|talk]]) 00:00, 11 April 2025 (UTC)