Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Mike Rosoft and Jimfbleak
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- Jasonfb (talk · contribs · logs)
- Jimfbleak (talk · contribs · logs)
- Mike Rosoft (talk · contribs · logs)
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Statement of the dispute
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Description
[edit]- Mike Rosoft and Jimfbleak deleted pages on 11.30.2006 in violation of the Deletion policy. they deleted pages under speedy deletion that clearly did not meet the speedy deletion criteria. I want their actions reviewed by a larger group and I propose that they be placed on suspension for a period of 2 weeks for having violated Wikipedia's own guidelines. For more information, see the deletion review page for 11.30.2006, and look for the section for "DUMBA". (Here.) Jasonfb 18:23, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Evidence of disputed behavior
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- The editors delete pages under speedy deletion that did not meet Wikipedia's speedy deletion criteria and should have been given a standard 5-day AfD review process.Jasonfb 18:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Applicable policies and guidelines
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Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute
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- I have made several attempt to get these admins to answer for thier actions. I have emailed them, left demanding messages on their talk pages, and opened a Deletion Review page. I have follow-up thoroughly and yet these admins don't seem to care very much about their actions or how innappropiate they were in the context of the proper procedure that I was attempting to follow. See deletion review page for 11.30.2006. Jasonfb 18:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit]Response
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- As far as I can see, the only case he has against me is that I had deleted his article and he doesn't agree with that. And for this, he wants me blocked for two weeks. I am shaking, I am shaking. - Mike Rosoft 21:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- Only later did I discover what the conflict was about: he requested undeletion of DUMBA, and the article he actually wanted undeleted was Dumba (page titles are case sensitive). Neither I nor Jimfbleak deleted the latter article; it was Brookie who did. - Mike Rosoft 00:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- Only just found this in the articles for SD list, I won't delete since it appears to mention me, jimfbleak 17:27, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Evidence that he doesn't intend to continue with the RfC: during the (now abandoned) conflict I received an e-mail from him, reading (in part):
- Regarding the unlinked RfC page on you, I do not intend to pursue it unless I have to. Since you have not answered question #1 (why you deleted the page under speedy deletion when it did not qualify for SD) and I have still not gotten the latest version of the text, I have every reason to continue to be very pissed off at you. Now, if you simply respond to my very clear question (why you deleted the page under speedy deletion when it did not qualify for SD)-- with SOME KIND of response-- (like, I had a brain lapse and thought that the page qualified as "patent nonsense")-- then I'd be happy to drop the RfC.
Users who endorse this summary:
- Simon says no. Empty vessels and all that. Chris cheese whine 04:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- How did I never endorse this? -Amarkov blahedits 17:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- Words fail me, and that doesn't happen very often. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:36, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
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Discussion
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