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Discussion: Agnostic Atheism and Reliability of Wikipedia

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So you got rid of the talk regarding "Agnostic Atheism" (and Wikinights stated here on your talke page that he was offended) when that term is minimally passible as a legitimate term according to Professor Paul Draper of Perdue University, (whose credentials are beyond reproach), who wrote on this subject in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy which is put together by the top Professors at the top Universities in the country? [1][2]

Here is what is offensive. You and others thinking that a book written in 1894 by James Alexander Harrison, which has no Bibliography, (Professor Drapers does), which is basically just a book of his viewpoints on subjects is superior? That is not only totally offensive in and of itself that people editing would believe this, it is also totally offensive to users of Wikipedia that rely on accurate up to date information and resources.

Further Proof of Wikipedia's Non-Reliability:

I was Manager of Financial Planning and Analysis for Brinks Home Security. When unpacking after a move recently I came across my business card. So of course it brought back memories. I thought I would check to see what was written about Brinks Home Security on Wikipedia. It was pretty much a joke. So I corrected some things. A user that only went by an IP address reverted my changes back. So I don't know if it's still there, but since just like the Agnostic Atheism piece it's a waste of time to put in accurate information, from reliable sources, today I put in the following at the top of the page.

"Some of the information below is incorrect. I had put in a correction on the top but it got deleted. I worked for Brinks Home Security from 1986-1991, first as a Senior Financial Analyst, and then as Manager of Financial Planning and Analysis.[3] I can be contacted for further information and verification at 469-613-7236.

Also here is the linkedin page of the second President and CEO of Brinks Home Security, (Peter Michel) from 1988-2001.[4]

Now whoever deleted my correction at the top, would like to get their facts straight on this company, please call me. Or any user can call me to get the correct information."

Now by the time you check this page this information above will probably be deleted again, just like when I made actual corrections. This is why Wikipedia is a joke and I don't use it, nor edit it any longer, (check my history, I made two edits in 2012, then was gone till recently. The only reason I came back was because people on social media cite this piece of crap encyclopedia, which is a piece of crap because anyone can go in and take out factual information. So why, as a professional researcher would I waste my time with a bunch of people who for the most part don't know how to do proper research and put in garbage into an encyclopedia?[5] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madjess (talk • contribs) 19:47, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, I did not get rid of the discussion, I archived it. Second of all, what exactly do you hope to accomplish by writing an essay about why you think Wikipedia is trash? I'm not forcing you to use it, and I don't make all the policies here. And obviously you do still care about Wikipedia if you are willing to write all this about it. Saucy[talk – contribs] 04:25, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Draper, Paul. "Professor of Philosophy, Perdue University" (PDF). purdue.edu. Retrieved 19 November 2020.
  2. ^ Draper, Paul. "Draper, Paul, "Atheism and Agnosticism", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Fall 2017 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.)". stanford.edu. Retrieved 19 November 2020.
  3. ^ Madden, Sam. LInkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-madden-a2352340/. Retrieved 19 November 2020. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  4. ^ Michel, Peter. LInkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-michel-7048133/. Retrieved 19 November 2020. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  5. ^ "Brink's Home Security". Wikipedia. Retrieved 19 November 2020.

Happy Birthday!

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Happy Birthday!

Have a very happy birthday on your special day!

Best wishes, CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 11:03, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Saucy[talk – contribs] 11:16, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Happy First Edit Day!

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Happy First Edit Day!

Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 11:44, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

joji

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Hey Saucy, I'm a fairly new editor so i didn't really know how to start a discussion. I tried it before the move but i couldn't figure it out so can you help me? My reasoning behind the move was that the article clearly is about George's whole career rather than just his joji part. I think the name filthy frank is also highly popular just like the name joji is. The name joji can still be used as a redirect if people search for it. Hope you can help me out :) DarkerthanTar (talk) 10:52, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@DarkerthanTar: Sure! To start a discussion, go to Talk:Joji (musician) and click the Edit button. At the bottom of the page, add the following:
{{subst:requested move|George Miller (musician)|reason=YOUR REASONING HERE}}

Once you've added your reasoning, save your edits, and you're done. You don't need to do anything after that; a bot will take care of it. Saucy[talk – contribs] 11:01, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Saucy :) DarkerthanTar (talk) 11:04, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that

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Sorry about that[1]. I am using a javascript tool that figures out who made a post and adds the signature. It seems it has a bug in it. I will be more careful in the future. HighInBC Need help? Just ask. 11:34, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Undid revision 1041564905 by Saucy (talk) Routine Calculations are not considered Original Research

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I composed a spreadsheet that calculates the contribution of each state to the 2010 mean US population center. I then calculated the influence of each state's 2010 to 2020 population change to the 2010 centroid to determine the centroid's 2020 position. I used this method to successfully estimate the 2010 population centroid and post it on this Wikipedia entry, to the apparent appreciation of local residents and regional media. I would like to post my 2020 calculation. I am willing to share my spreadsheet, just tell me how. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.50.182.207 (talk) 20:03, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@108.50.182.207: I believe that the "routine calculations" clause of the original research policy is more for simple calculations, such as converting between units. However, finding the mean population center of the United States is such a complex calculation that it would be very difficult for other editors to verify that it's true. "Routine calculations do not count as original research, provided there is consensus among editors that the result of the calculation is correct, and a meaningful reflection of the sources." I suspect it would be difficult to get consensus that your result is correct, since it is not an official calculation. Saucy[talk – contribs] 02:57, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My spreadsheet is fairly simple and straightforward (3 columns of data, 9 columns of calculations, and a row for each US state), and uses only four fundamental mathematical functions: addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division, so it is not difficult to interpret. I have a high level of confidence in my method because it worked in 2010. I would like to try to obtain a consensus among the editors of this page that my calculation is an estimate rigorous enough to be added. How do I proceed with consensus-building on this issue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.115.57.2 (talk) 15:59, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@63.115.57.2: The original research noticeboard is one place to get opinions on whether it breaks the original research policy. Saucy[talk – contribs] 04:52, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Keemstar for deletion

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Keemstar is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keemstar until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

DGG ( talk ) 21:31, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Framework Computer - an excessive amount of intricate detail message

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Hi Saucy, thank you for your feedback for the "Framework Computer" page. What parts could be improved especially on the page? This is my first try to "talk" on Wikipedia. Junaruga (talk) 21:50, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Junaruga: Hi there! Thank you very much for all your contributions on the Framework article; I appreciate all the work you've put into expanding and improving the article. But I feel like you actually went a little overboard. See Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. For example, information about the firmware of the embedded controller isn't relevant to most people, and feels out-of-scope for an encyclopedia. The article also has a lot of links to help guides and forums, which isn't really the purpose of Wikipedia either. Some sections of the article also rely heavily on references to user-generated content, which are generally considered unreliable. Saucy[talk – contribs] 06:28, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Saucy Thank you for your feedback! I am sorry to be late to reply to you. I checked the Wikipedia page "What Wikipedia is not.". I tried to simplify the firmware section, adding other section "mainboards" and "expansion cards" in balance. My intent of the firmware part is because it is only a software developed by the company Framework. It directly affects users experiences. As a person who have seen the users community, I feel that firmware is an important factor of this laptop, unlike other companies laptops. I will continue to improve this page. Thank you. Junaruga (talk) 20:08, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seventh anniversary on Wikipedia

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Happy First Edit Day!

Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, Chris Troutman (talk) 21:10, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi man!

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Hi man! X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 00:11, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@X750: Hi!!! 😃 Saucy[talk – contribs] 00:21, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Saucy Can I get some hype 🔥🔥🔥 X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 00:22, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@X750: Saucy[talk – contribs] 00:26, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Barnstar of Soge

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Some beans for you!
Hey man! X-750 List of articles I have screwed over 08:13, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@X750: Hey Man! (I changed the image because I don't want to get in trouble for having NFCC-breaking material on my talk page) What have you been up to I miss you Saucy[talk – contribs] 08:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh dang okay I didn't realise it was a NFCC, I've been writing lots of articles on sports cars. I've got a draft (offwiki) for the Audi R10 TDI, and it's probably gonna quadruple the current page size, and I'm gonna nominate it for a featured article. So much WIN!!!! How about you? X-750 List of articles I have screwed over 09:37, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi there, I see you have edited the Panera Bread logo on wikipedia before. Our marketing department has asked we serve up the wordmark as the logo instead of the images we refer to as "Mother Bread". It's correct now in the USA, but Google is pulling in the old logo still from the German version of wikipedia. Do you know how to replace this logo https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Panera_Bread_Logo.svg with this one Panera Bread#/media/File:Panera Bread wordmark.svg

Thank you! PaneraTerry (talk) 21:25, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@PaneraTerry: I've went ahead and replaced the logo on the German Panera Bread article with the new one, though that hasn't deleted the file. It seems strange to me that Google is specifically pulling the image from the German Wikipedia; I suspect someone from Google has manually set it to do that. To remove it from Google you would probably have to either contact Google or delete the file from the German Wikipedia. Since the Mother Bread version of the logo is copyrighted, it could probably be deleted fairly easily; though I'm not familiar with the German Wikipedia's deletion policies and procedures. Also, since I assume you are employed by Panera, be sure to follow Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy when making any edits. Saucy[talk – contribs] 01:02, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I oversee our search presence as well as some other digital marketing components within Panera. Will definitely read up on that. My objective is to just ensure accuracy, not using Wiki for promotion. If there is someone I should recommend changes to rather then trying to edit it myself I am definitely happy to do it that way! :-). Thank you so much for the help, very much appreciated. PaneraTerry (talk) 18:07, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Birthday!

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Happy Birthday!

Have a very happy birthday on your special day!

Best wishes, Race To Oblivion (ネザーへのハイウェイ) (talk) 19:50, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!!! Saucy[talk – contribs] 09:05, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Birthday!

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Thank you!!! I got two people wishing me; I'm so famous Saucy[talk – contribs] 09:05, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy birthday!

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Alles Gute zum Geburtstag Saucy! 祝您生日快乐 X750. Spin a yarn? Articles I've screwed over? 20:39, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Man! Saucy[talk – contribs] 09:05, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ANI

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If you take a look at teh dramahboardz, it is almost 1 million bytes! That's kinda big honestly. X750. Spin a yarn? Articles I've screwed over? 00:38, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your contributions on Park City Transit

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Hi Saucy, thank you for polishing and contributing to Park City Transit. It's my second article I've created on Wikipedia and I greatly appreciate your revisions for grammar and clarity. ~~mAyLiNgOeEd (Talk to me!🗣) (See what else I did on Wikipedia!!📜) 02:46, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats on your first article!!! I didn't have the time to do as much cleanup as I would've liked, so I tagged it for some additional editing. Saucy[talk – contribs] 01:56, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Birthday!

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Happy First Edit Day!

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have a robot

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robot
robot Kh98963 (talk) 15:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi man!

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Hey man! X750. Spin a yarn? Articles I've screwed over? 07:57, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man! Wassup I've missed ya 😳 Saucy[talk – contribs] 10:01, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing much haha. Back in New Zealand for summer break and then heading back over to the U.S. once the semester starts. Hope your summer is good so far :D X750. Spin a yarn? Articles I've screwed over? 01:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thai Wikipedia has chosen your image to be shown on its front page.

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said file

A file that you've created, File:Proportional-vs-monospace-v5.svg, has been chosen to be shown on Thai Wikipedia's front page in its did you know template. (specifically th:แม่แบบ:รู้ไหมว่า/คิว_15 )

Cordially,

Jo the fire dragon

Jothefiredragon🐲talk🐉edits 04:31, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Quote That Couldn’t Commit

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I would put a quote here, but it seems even the words are agnostic about showing up.Click here to know my name (talk) 12:54, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Birthday!

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Thank you!!! ❤️ Saucy[talk – contribs] 13:06, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Birthday!

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Thank you!!! ❤️ Saucy[talk – contribs] 13:06, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Saucy You're most welcome. Hopefully, you enjoyed your day. Stay blessed. Taabii (talk) 20:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy First Edit Day!

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10 years on Wikipedia 🥳 Saucy[talk – contribs] 07:14, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Administrators will now find that Special:MergeHistory is now significantly more flexible about what it can merge. It can now merge sections taken from the middle of the history of the source (rather than only the start) and insert revisions anywhere in the history of the destination page (rather than only the start). [21]
  • For users with "Automatically subscribe to topics" enabled in their preferences, starting a new topic or adding a reply to an existing topic will now subscribe them to replies to that topic. Previously, this would only happen if the DiscussionTools "Add topic" or "Reply" widgets were used. When DiscussionTools was originally launched existing accounts were not opted in to automatic topic subscriptions, so this change should primarily affect newer accounts and users who have deliberately changed their preferences since that time. [22]
  • Scribunto modules can now be used to generate SVG images. This can be used to build charts, graphics and other visualizations dynamically through Lua, reducing the need to compose them externally and upload them as files. [23]
  • Wikimedia sites now provide all anonymous users with the option to enable a dark mode color scheme, featuring light-colored text on a dark background. This enhancement aims to deliver a more enjoyable reading experience, especially in dimly lit environments. [24]
  • Users with large watchlists have long faced timeouts when editing Special:EditWatchlist. The page now loads entries in smaller sections instead of all at once due to a paging update, allowing everyone to edit their watchlists smoothly. As part of the database update, sorting by expiry has been removed because it was over 100× slower than sorting by title. A community wish has been created to explore alternative ways to restore sort-by-expiry. If this feature is important to you, please support the wish! [25]
  • Recurrent item View all 31 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the fixing of the persisting highlighting when using VisualEditor find and replace during a query. [26]

Updates for technical contributors

  • Since 2019 the Wikimedia URL Shortener at https://w.wiki is available for all Wikimedia wikis to create short links to articles, permalinks, diffs, etc. It is available in the sidebar as "Get shortened URL". There are 30 wikis that also install an older "ShortUrl" extension. The old extension will soon be removed. This means /s/ URLs will not be advertised under article titles via HTML class="title-shortlink". The /s/ URLs will keep working. [27]
  • On Thursday, October 30, the MediaWiki Interfaces and SRE Service Operations teams began rerouting Action API traffic through a common API gateway. Individual wikis will be updated based on the standard release groups, with total traffic increased over time. This change is expected to be non-breaking and non-disruptive. If any issues are observed, please file a Phabricator ticket to the Service Ops team board.
  • MediaWiki Train deployments will pause for the final two weeks of 2025: 22 December and 29 December. Backport windows will also pause between Monday, 22 December 2025 and Thursday, 2 January 2026. A backport window is a scheduled time to add things like bug fixes and configuration changes. There are seven deployment trains remaining for 2025. [28]
  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

In depth

  • In 2025, the Wikimedia Foundation reported that AI systems and search engines increasingly use Wikipedia content without driving users to the site, contributing to an 8% drop in human pageviews compared to 2024. After detecting bots disguised as humans, Wikimedia updated its traffic data to reflect this shift. Read more about current user trends on Wikipedia in a Diff blog post.

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

Screenshot of the visual improvements made on talk pages
Example of a talk page with the new design, in French.
  • Starting November 12, users will see a change in the appearance of talk pages on some Wikipedias. Almost all wikis have received this design change; English Wikipedia will get these changes later. You can read more on Diff. Users can opt out of these changes in their user preferences in "Show discussion activity". [29]
  • MediaWiki can now display a page indicator automatically while a page is protected. This feature is disabled by default. It can be enabled by community request. [30]
  • Using the "Show preview" or "Show changes" buttons in the wikitext editor will now carry over certain URL parameters like 'useskin', 'uselang' and 'section'. This update also fixes an issue where, if the browser crashed while previewing an edit to a single section, saving this edit could overwrite the entire page with just that section’s content. [31][32][33]
  • Wikivoyage wikis can use colored map markers in the article text. The text of these markers will now be shown in contrasting black or white color, instead of always being white. Local workarounds for the problem can be removed. [34]
  • The Activity tab in the Wikipedia Android app is now available for all users. The new tab offers personalized insights into reading, editing, and donation activity, while simplifying navigation and making app use more engaging. [35]
  • The Reader Growth team is launching an experiment called "Image browsing" to test how to make it easier for readers to browse and discover images on Wikipedia articles. This experiment, a mobile-only A/B test, will go live on English Wikipedia in the week of November 17 and will run for four weeks, affecting 0.05% of users on English wiki. The test launched on November 3 on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese wikis, affecting up to 10% of users on those wikis. [36]
  • Recurrent item View all 27 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example the inability to lock accounts on mobile sites has been fixed. [37]

Updates for technical contributors

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • The Reader Experience team is experimenting with reading lists on mobile web, allowing logged-in readers with no edits to save private lists of articles for later. The experiment is running on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias since the week of 10 November, and will begin on English Wikipedia the week of 17 November.
  • Users who can’t receive their email verification code during login can now get help by submitting a form on a new special page. This update is part of the Account Security initiative. If your account has an email address, please make sure you still have access to it. When logging in from a new device or location without 2FA, you may be asked to enter a 6-digit code sent by email to finish logging in. Learn more.
  • One new wiki has been created: a Wikisource in Minangkabau (s:min:) [44]
  • Recurrent item View all 23 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.

Updates for technical contributors

  • As part of the Parser Unification project, the Content Transform Team rolled out Parsoid as the default parser to many low-traffic Wikipedias and is preparing the next step to high traffic ones. This message is an invitation for you to opt-in to Parsoid, as described in the Extension:ParserMigration documentation, and identify any issues you might encounter with your own workflow using bots, gadgets, or user scripts. Please, let us know through the "Report Visual Bug" link in the Tools sidebar or create a phab ticket and tag the Content Transform Team in Phabricator.
  • Unsupported Tools: Several issues with Video2Commons have been fixed, including filename-related upload failures, black-video imports, and retry handling. AV1 support has also been added. Ongoing work focuses on backend stability, ffmpeg errors, subtitle imports, metadata handling, and playlist uploads. To track specific tasks, check the Phabricator board.
  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

Meetings and events

  • Save the date for the next Wikimedia Hackathon happening in Milan, Italy from May 1–3, 2026. Registration will open in January 2026. Scholarship applications are currently open, and will close on November 28, 2025. If you have any questions, please email hackathon@wikimedia.org.

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • Last week, the Wikimedia Search Team recreated the "DWIM" (Do What I Mean) gadget functionality server-side, for Russian and Hebrew Wikipedias. This feature adds cross-keyboard suggestions to the standard search-box suggestions. For example, searching for cxfcnmt on Russian Wikipedia will now add suggestions for счастье ("happiness") that the user probably intended. They plan to enable this feature for other Russian and Hebrew wikis this week. [45]
  • Later this week, users of the "Improved Syntax Highlighting" beta feature will have syntax highlighting available in DiscussionTools. This requires that the "Enable editing tools in source mode" preference be set. [46]
  • Campaign events extension – the set of tools for coordinating events and other on-wiki collaborations has now been deployed to all Wikimedia wikis. A new feature known as Collaborative contribution to help organizers and participants see the impact of activities has also been added. Join the upcoming learning session to see the new feature in action and share your feedback.
  • Recurrent item View all 24 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the bug which stopped CodeReviewBot from working, has now been fixed. [47]

Updates for technical contributors

  • Users of Wikimedia API can join a usability study to help validate the new design of Wikimedia REST API sandboxes. Interested participants should fill the recruitment survey. [48]
  • The MediaWiki Interfaces team is deprecating XSLT stylesheets within the Action API. Support for format=xml&xlst={stylesheet} will be removed from Wikimedia projects by the end of November, 2025. In addition, it will soon be disabled by default in MediaWiki release versions: v1.43 (LTS), v1.44, and v1.45. Support for XSLT stylesheets will be fully removed from MediaWiki v1.46 (expected to release between April and May 2026). [49]
  • The WDQS legacy endpoint (query-legacy-full.wikidata.org) will be decommissioned at the end of December 2025, and finally closed down on 7th January 2026. After this date, users should expect requests to query.wikidata.org that require the full graph to fail or return invalid results if they are not rewritten to use SPARQL federation. The team encourages users to ensure that tools and workflows use the supported WDQS endpoints (https://query.wikidata.org/ - Main graph or https://query-scholarly.wikidata.org/ - Scholarly graph). For support with migrating use cases, please review the Data Access and Request a Query pages for details and assistance on alternative access methods.
  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

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MediaWiki message delivery 15:54, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • The Wikipedia Year in Review 2025 will be available on December 2 for users of iOS and Android Wikipedia apps, featuring new personalized insights, updated reading highlights, and refreshed designs. Learn more on the review's project page.
  • The Growth team is working on improving the text and presentation of the Verification Email sent to new users to make them more welcoming, useful and informative. Some new text have been drafted for A/B testing and you can help by translating them. See Phabricator.
  • Add a link will now be deployed at Japanese, Urdu and Chinese Wikipedias on December 2. Add a link is based on a prediction model that suggests links to be added to articles. While this feature has already been available on most Wikipedias, the prediction model could not support certain languages. A new model has now been developed to handle these languages, and it will be gradually rolled out to other Wikipedias over time. If you would like to know more, please contact Trizek (WMF).
  • Recurrent item View all 34 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the issue where search boxes on some Commons pages showed no results due to switch from SpecialSearch to MediaSearch, has now been fixed. [50]
  • Two new wikis have been created:

Updates for technical contributors

  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

In depth

  • The Wikimedia Foundation is in the early stages of exploring approaches to Article guidance. The initiative aims to identify interventions that could help new editors easily understand and apply existing Wikipedia practices and policies when creating an article. The project is in the exploration and early experimental design phase. All community members are encouraged to learn more about the project, and share their thoughts on the talk page.

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MediaWiki message delivery 18:56, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Weekly highlight

  • Anybody who wishes to secure their user account can now use two-factor authentication (2FA). This is available to all registered users of all Wikimedia projects. This is part of the Account Security initiative. Later, 2FA will be required for all users who can take security- or privacy-sensitive actions.

Updates for editors

  • Following last week's deployments, the Add a link feature, which allows editors to add suggested links during editing, will be available to an additional 33 Wikipedias starting on 9 December. This expansion is possible thanks to the new prediction model that now supports all languages, including those that were previously not covered. While the feature has been available on most Wikipedias for some time, this rollout brings us closer to using the improved model everywhere. If you have any questions or would like more details please contact Trizek (WMF).
  • Last week, the Search Platform team added transliterated as-you-type search suggestions to Georgian wikis. If there are only a few regular search suggestions, then queries in Latin or Cyrillic script are now rewritten into Georgian script to look for more matches. For example, searching for either bedniereba or бедниереба will now suggest the existing article about ბედნიერება ("happiness"). You can recommend other languages where transliterated suggestions would be useful on Phabricator for future development.
  • Later this week, a controlled experiment will begin for editors on the 100 largest Wikipedias who are editing a section in the mobile web visual editor. 50% of these editors will notice a new "Edit full page" button that will enable them to expand their editing session to the whole page. This feature is intended to make it easier for people on mobile web to edit any article section, regardless of which section-edit icon they tapped to begin. The experiment will last ~4 weeks. You can find more details about the project.
  • Later this week, the Reader Growth team will launch a mobile web experiment to expand all article sections by default (currently they are collapsed by default) and pin the section header the user is currently reading to the top of the page. The experiment will affect 10% of users on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. [53]
  • The Wikipedia Year in Review 2025, a feature in the Wikipedia mobile apps (iOS and Android) that provides users with a personalised summary of their engagement with Wikipedia over the year, is now available on the iOS and Android apps. This edition includes expanded personalised insights, improved reading highlights, new donor messaging, and updated designs. Open the app to view your Year in Review and explore your reading journey from 2025.
  • A recent software bug caused edits made with VisualEditor to make unintended changes to wikitext, including removing whitespace and replacing spaces with underscores in wikilinks inside citations. This was partially fixed last week, and further fixes are in progress. Editors who used VisualEditor between November 28 and December 2 should review their edits for unexpected modifications. [54]
  • Recurrent item View all 23 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the incorrect handling of URLs copied from the address bar of Microsoft Edge users, has been resolved. [55]

Updates for technical contributors

  • Starting this week, users of the "Improved Syntax Highlighting" beta feature will have CodeMirror as the editor for Lua, JavaScript, CSS, JSON and Vue content models, instead of CodeEditor. With this, the linters will be upgraded. This is part of a larger effort to eventually replace CodeEditor and provide a consistent code editing experience. [56]
  • Developers are encouraged to take the 2025 Developer Satisfaction Survey, which remains open until 5 January 2026. If you build software for the Wikimedia ecosystem and would like to share your experiences or feedback, your participation is greatly appreciated. [57]
  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

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MediaWiki message delivery 17:43, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy Birthday from the Birthday Committee

Wishing Saucy a very happy birthday on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!

Don't forget to save us all a piece of cake!--Snuggle 📫 🖤 01:18, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • Recurrent item View all 18 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, one of the fixes addressed an issue for temporary accounts adding an external URL, which triggered an hCaptcha request in more cases than intended, and did not display the required popup on the first attempt to publish the edit. [58]

Updates for technical contributors

  • To improve database and site performance, external links to Wikimedia projects will no longer be stored in the database. This means they will not be searchable in Special:LinkSearch, will not be checked by the Spam Blacklist or AbuseFilter as new links, and will not be in the externallinks table on database replicas. In the future this may be extended to other highly-linked trusted websites on a per-wiki basis, such as Creative Commons links on Wikimedia Commons. [59]
  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

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MediaWiki message delivery 19:01, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Birthday!

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Tech News: 2025-52

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • From January, edit filters can be set to automatically suppress their details such as rules and list of attempted edits and actions. This will help oversighters use edit filters to prevent doxxing or other suppressible material. [60]
  • The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 12 January 2026 because of the end of year holidays. Thank you to all of the translators, and people who submitted content or feedback, this year.
  • Recurrent item View all 16 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the crash that occurred when tapping "First Steps" in the Wikipedia Android Year in Review has now been fixed, and the feature opens as expected. [61]

Updates for technical contributors

  • Interface elements such as diffs and categories generated by MediaWiki used to have the attribute data-mw="interface" to distinguish from wiki content. The attribute has been replaced with data-mw-interface="", to avoid potential conflicts with other data-mw attributes, which are generated by Parsoid. [62]
  • Recurrent item There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week.

Meetings and events

  • The Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026 will take place on 13-14 March 2026 in Arnhem, the Netherlands. Applications just opened mid-December and will close in mid-January or earlier if capacity is reached. With space for approximately 100 participants, early application is encouraged.

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:43, 22 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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