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Requested move 16 June 2022

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 04:18, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback → Wikipedia talk:Huggle/Feedback – A lot of templates do not work under the Wikipedia namespace, including {{requested move}} and {{Edit template-protected}} (See [1]). Wikipedia talk seems a more appropriate place. 0xDeadbeef 10:10, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support since all of the talk pages of Huggle warnings redirect here, it's impossible to make an edit request without waiting forever. I made one 10 days ago and it hasn't been addressed. interstatefive  20:49, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Nothing in queue

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Just upgraded to 3.4.13, but even before with 3.4.12, no edits seem to appear in the queue, even with the all edits option. I managed to revert an edit by entering the page in the page input field, but the queue seems dead, with any of the providers XmlRcs, IRC and Wiki. Is something broken, or I have missed something? - DVdm (talk) 15:45, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

More information:

  1. Using Win 10 pro.
  2. The logfile says: "Wed Jan 29 23:21:02 2025: ERROR: The webserver of enwiki requires that SSL is to be enabled. Please turn SSL on and try again. If you can't enable SSL (option is grayed out) you may need to install OpenSSL libraries to your system."
  3. TLS 1.2 is active
  4. Turned the firewall off, no effect (!)
  5. Turned firewall on again, now the Wiki and IRC providers work. XmlRcs not.
  6. Have set the preferred provider to Wiki in the feed options, but after close and re-open, the provider is IRC. Config file huggle.yaml.js lists preferred-provider: 0, which I manually set to 1, now it stays Wiki.

DVdm (talk) 23:13, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm having the exact same issue. I came here hoping for a fix.--Mojo Hand (talk) 15:07, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The question is: which is the best provider? Wiki and IRC work fine, but is XmlRcs —if it works— better? - DVdm (talk) 15:41, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weird that XmlRcs is the default provider.--Mojo Hand (talk) 16:18, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Having this exact same issue. --Patient Zerotalk 00:36, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It started working again for me when I changed provider on the system tab from XmlRcs to Wiki, but it seems slower to me.--Mojo Hand (talk) 00:41, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Done that as well Mojo Hand, and completely agree that it is now slower...! Patient Zerotalk 01:28, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No new edits seen on Huggle

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I've just downloaded Huggle and managed to log in via Legacy, but I can't see any new edits appearing in the Queue. I seem to be stuck with the latest system log being 'Connecting to recent changes stream on enwiki using provider: XMLRCS'. I'd used Huggle with my previous computer with no issues. What seems to be the problem here? JACKINTHEBOX • TALK 17:57, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Try settings -> system -> change XmlRcs to Wiki. –Novem Linguae (talk) 18:52, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It now works, thanks! JACKINTHEBOX • TALK 19:42, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@JackintheBox: Is there a permanent setting for this? There is a System->Options->Feed->"Use IRC feed for recent changes if possible". That does not seem to do anything. Using change XmlRcs to IRC does work. Thanks Adakiko (talk) 20:32, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm I'm not aware of a permanent setting. I just manually change XmlRcs to Wiki each time I log in. Anyone? JACKINTHEBOX • TALK 18:44, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is XMLRcs broken? GalStar (talk) (contribs) 01:31, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pressing G should not thank users

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Using G is sometimes helpful in case you come across a new editor that has been contributing positively. However, I don't see the point of automatically thanking the user. You can see from my own thanks log the amount of random editors that were thanked by Huggle, including one that was later blocked for disruptive editing. I think this feature should be automatically disabled. CutlassCiera 21:20, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's a good idea. It tells the user the edit they made was a good one after all. Great for helping inexperienced editors. Gommeh 🎮 18:47, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

When will 3.4.14 be released?

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I've rather given up on Huggle. Are there setting that I can adjust to fix any of these?

  • Report user not not open popup window, either by Icon on tool bar, User->Report user, nor Ctrl+R
  • Before the problem with the popup window issue
    • "check if reported" would not work
    • Huggle would generate a duplicate AIV report for already reported vandals
  • UNAA does not work
  • RFPP: additions are made near the top, not at the bottom per instructions on page.
  • Warnings are often put in the wrong / previous section. If there is a "March 2025" and a "May 2025" (the current month) section, Huggle will put the warning in the March 2025 section.
  • On startup, one must change the provider. It would be nice if the setting was persistent.

I uninstalled and reinstalled Huggle 3.4.12 (accidently). The AIV functions seemed to work OK. The AIV window problem returned after reinstalling 3.4.13
Adakiko (talk) 01:19, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I feel you. Huggle really needs a quality-of-life update. —⁠k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 01:47, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
+1. I've noticed I am encountering a few of the issues here, namely that Huggle keeps generating duplicate AIV reports, and putting my warnings under the wrong headers. There is a fix for the provider issue by changing the default one in the settings (see above "Nothing in queue"), but it would be great if it just worked from the get-go. I'm also currently having issues with starting the application in the first place - details of which are on Phabricator if anyone's interested, but it involves the "you logged out" popup... Patient Zerotalk 01:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any posts by the Huggle maintainers on this talk page. I'll go ahead and give them a ping: @Petrb. @Addshore. Both have some recent edits to enwiki, and Petrb has some recent commits to the GitHub repo, so that's a good sign. –Novem Linguae (talk) 17:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
+1 Frost 08:20, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I feel you guys, I am not very active these days, addshore is probably in similar situation. We are no longer those young guys with loads of free time :), having a family and a full time job, there is very little time for hobbies like similar open source projects. I do start Huggle from time to time to check if it's at least working to eventually fix some critical issues, and last time I did it was working fine, but I admit these advanced features like AIV / UNAA, RFPP etc. may be broken. They relied on parsing respective pages and adding sections to them using various template black magic and this logic breaks every single time there is a major update to the layout of these pages, which is probably what happened this time too. I will have a look hopefully through the summer. Petrb (talk) 20:48, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It says MediaWiki is logged out when it's not?

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I'm trying to use Huggle, but every time I try and rollback using it it says I'm not logged in to MediaWiki and then the app crashes. How can I fix this? » Gommeh (he/him) 15:13, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

+1 Frost 08:20, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gommeh. @Frost. Have you tried changing System -> Options -> Feed -> "Preferred provider of recent changes" to something different? Changing providers seems to fix issues for a lot of people. There are 3 options to choose from. –Novem Linguae (talk) 06:12, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes but only the Wiki and IRC providers work although not as seamlessly as before. Using an older version of the app like 3.4.1.2 appears to solve the logout issue. Frost 07:09, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
+1 The switch to Wiki as my provider worked, but the logout and crash issues remain. Jalen Barks (Woof) 18:43, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have this issue every time I use Huggle too. It usually goes away on its own, after having the program open for 5-20min. But the timing is very random. But usually my first rollback after opening the program will cause it to crash, after getting the "You've been logged out of MediaWiki" popup. Though it will successfully rollback the page & warn the user, just prior to crashing. I then re-launch and it's a flip of a coin if I'll get the error message & crash 10 more times, or be good to go. Nubzor (T | C) 15:40, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have the same issue as user Nubzor as well. Cassiopeia talk 01:01, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I also have this issue. In fact I have tried to use Huggle seven times in a row just now and every time I open it and try to revert something, I get the error message and the application closes. This has happened with every version lately. ... discospinster talk 21:20, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, this is one of oldest and most annoying, complex bugs we have in queue for many years - there are multiple instances of it in phabricator I believe, one of them is this one https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288104 the main problem is that I have no clue what is causing this bug :) I made various workarounds that make situation better (such as transparent relogin), but sometimes even that doesn't help. Basically what happens is that mediawiki just no longer accepts the authentication tokens Huggle has. When it tries to login again, it gets new tokens and they are also rejected. For some reason restarting the app sometimes helps. It could be related to some way session is managed in mediawiki, maybe some cookie related problem, it could be that we are just doing something wrong when it comes to tokens. Unfortunately the logic behind these API tokens is pretty complex, but I am aware of the problem. It's also very hard to fix because it's very hard to replicate. Every time I have time to work on this problem it just doesn't appear. I have a theory that this problem manifests only under certain conditions (such as when the load of mediawiki servers is higher). Petrb (talk) 20:41, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

First time using Huggle

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Hello, this is my first time using Huggle on a laptop, and I’m still getting familiar with the interface. At first, I didn’t know much about how it works. I noticed there are two login options: BotPassword and Legacy. I chose Legacy and entered my username and password—was that the correct option? Also, every time I close and reopen the software, it asks me to log in again. Is that normal? - Arcrev1 (talk) 08:00, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Either method should be fine. Yes, it asking you to log in every time you open the program is normal. Make sure to tick "Remember password" to make this process easy (you just click login and it logs in). –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:01, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Novem Linguae: Does Huggle monitor all recent changes, or does it only monitor edits from IP users and new users? Because in my first experience, it mostly showed edits from IP users and new editors. Or maybe it has a configuration or filter? Where can this filter be found, like in the usual "Recent changes" page of Wikipedia? - Arcrev1 (talk) 13:08, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It whitelists folks with over 10,000 edits. The rest of its algorithm and preferences, I'm not sure. –Novem Linguae (talk) 13:24, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again, what is the difference between IRC, Wiki, and XmlRcs as recent changes providers, and which of them is the best for monitoring unconstructive edits? Are there any settings that can be adjusted so that the recent changes feed only shows bad edits? - Arcrev1 (talk) 06:54, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Arcrev1:! The difference is simple - Wiki is a most basic feed provider which always works, it uses API of mediawiki which it is periodically polling to get a list of recent changes. It's very slow and very ineffective, but it doesn't depend on any 3rd party, so it's used as a fallback when everything else fails. IRC is using the classic IRC based recent changes feed. It's much faster it's receiving information about new edits in real time. wikitech:XmlRcs is most modern technology that is built around Event Streams, which are meant to eventually replace IRC feed. Unfortunately it's not very stable. So in case it's down Huggle falls back to IRC stream. On system where IRC doesn't work (or when even that is down) Huggle just falls back to Wiki API polling. Hope that makes it clear. Petrb (talk) 20:34, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Huggle on FreeBSD, again

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Hello. I tried to install Huggle using the method discussed in Wikipedia talk:Huggle/Feedback/Archive 21#Huggle 3x on FreeBSD, but it doesnt install. This was a couple of weeks ago, so I dont remember the exact error. But I can try again. I think the configure script for FreeBSD needs to updated in Huggle. courtesy ping: Petrb —usernamekiran (talk) 16:08, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I may have a look later, I don't object installing FreeBSD and trying to compile it there, but I gotta admit I have very little free time due to personal reasons these days. If I get a chance I will check. Posting the precise error would help. Petrb (talk) 20:36, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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