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== How's this look ==

{{ping|Departure–}} How does this look? Ignore the name, the Adamsville tornado didn't meet LASTING or NEVENT so I worked on this one instead. :) [[User:EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''E'''</span>]]<sub>[[User talk:EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''F'''</span>]]</sub><sup>[[Special:Contributions/EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''5'''</span>]]</sup> 22:53, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

:Fair enough. I think it can be expanded to GA at the very least in addition. Also, for the fatalities, the [https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/stormevents/eventdetails.jsp?id=1088285 Illinois survey] and [https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/stormevents/eventdetails.jsp?id=1089561 Indiana survey] in the events database have different entries for the fatalities, so I added them both separately. [[User:Departure–|Departure–]] ([[User talk:Departure–|talk]]) 01:32, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
::Will do, I was planning on nominating it anyway. :) [[User:EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''E'''</span>]]<sub>[[User talk:EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''F'''</span>]]</sub><sup>[[Special:Contributions/EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''5'''</span>]]</sup> 01:33, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
:::The biggest flaws I saw with this article upon seeing it initially were the death tables padding out the length and the emergency text - I've removed them for now, as I don't have enough information to fill in the Illinois fatalities, and the tornado emergency text is [[boilerplate text]]. I do think a longer aftermath section and more meterological synopsis focusing on this area of Illinois and Indiana would greatly improve this article's odds of GA or FA quality. Also, there's a broken ref right at the end cited for three fatalities in Sullivan. [[User:Departure–|Departure–]] ([[User talk:Departure–|talk]]) 01:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Makes sense. Remember, I just made this like an hour ago, and it’s currently almost 9 pm here; I’ll iron it out tomorrow. :) [[User:EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''E'''</span>]]<sub>[[User talk:EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''F'''</span>]]</sub><sup>[[Special:Contributions/EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''5'''</span>]]</sup> 01:50, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::To be fair, for an article materialized from nothing to B-class in only three hours is still an accomplishment. Now we push for GA / FA (or, I will, anyway. That might come later after Covington and Little Rock / FL on the list article). [[User:Departure–|Departure–]] ([[User talk:Departure–|talk]]) 01:52, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::Covington and Little Rock both need an article; Adamsville and Keota don’t have enough coverage for an article, unfortunately. All you need is 3+ GA+ articles, I’ll also nominate an FP just to make it look better. :) [[User:EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''E'''</span>]]<sub>[[User talk:EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''F'''</span>]]</sub><sup>[[Special:Contributions/EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''5'''</span>]]</sup> 01:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Depending on how much effort us as a collective plan to put in, we ''could'' shoot for featured. There are seven articles in the topic sphere - the outbreak article, list of tornadoes, Wynne-Parkin, Robinson-Sullivan, the Belvidere Theatre collapse, as well as Little Rock and Covington which don't have articles. So far, the list of tornadoes article would be the easiest to get to FL quality, with the Belvidere theatre collapse being (in my opinion) at or above GA quality now. Wynne is C class but has a good length, and this one is B at the moment. Featured topics need at least half of the articles to be featured - in this case, that'd be the list article, and then most likely the outbreak article, Belvidere collapse, Little Rock tornado, and another one for four out of seven needed. [[User:Departure–|Departure–]] ([[User talk:Departure–|talk]]) 02:06, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Also, Good Topics need '''all''' topic articles to be GA. I'm assuming you thought only three did, plus the list article, but it operates differently from Featured Topics. [[User:Departure–|Departure–]] ([[User talk:Departure–|talk]]) 02:07, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Departure–}} Now at GAN. [[User:EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''E'''</span>]]<sub>[[User talk:EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''F'''</span>]]</sub><sup>[[Special:Contributions/EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''5'''</span>]]</sup> 17:20, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::{{Ping|EF5}}: I'm not going to be the one doing the GAN, but I'll state that the Meteorological synopsis section should be cut down considerably and focus on southern Illinois and Indiana. I know ILX had an event summary that would make a great source for more specific information than you're going to find on the SPC outlook. Other than that, the Tornado summary section is using stacked citations, and spreading them throughout will improve your odds of a speedy GA. Also, some expansion of the Damage and subsequent recovery efforts section would be good. Also, the two screenshots of the DAT application should be replaced with maps of either the track illustrated or damage points along the path at those areas ideally - I'm honestly not sure if DAT application screenshots are PD, given how many sources for map information they cite. Other than that, the article seems fine with no glaring flaws. [[User:Departure–|Departure–]] ([[User talk:Departure–|talk]]) 17:28, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:::[https://disasters-geoplatform.hub.arcgis.com/pages/noaa-damage-assessment-toolkit-dat DAT screenshots are in the public domain] as a work of the federal government. I'm currently having some mental health issues off-wiki, but I'll look to see if illustrations do exist later, and if none exist then I'll just use the DAT. :) [[User:EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''E'''</span>]]<sub>[[User talk:EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''F'''</span>]]</sub><sup>[[Special:Contributions/EF5|<span style="color:#A188FC;">'''5'''</span>]]</sup> 17:34, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::::I might be interested in making one with definitive attribution in my off-time later this week. [[User:Departure–|Departure–]] ([[User talk:Departure–|talk]]) 17:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::::I just added a handmade graphic at [[List of tornadoes by width]] - I'll make one for this tornado later on. I found out that the ArcGIS DAT uses data from Microsoft and multiple other private companies that may not or explicitly do not freely license their data, I explained this further on Commons. Anyway, check out that graphic, and I'm thinking I'll make a graphic much like the damage assessment toolkit, mixed with [https://www.weather.gov/images/lot/pastevents/2021/June2021/TornadoTrack.PNG this graphic from the 2021 Naperville - Woodridge] tornado soon. It's very late and I'm closing what may be my most productive wiki day ever at 64 edits and original media creation. Cheers! [[User:Departure–|Departure–]] ([[User talk:Departure–|talk]]) 04:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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