Talk:Endocrine system: Difference between revisions

organ // or // specialized group of cells?

are both correct?

Thymus?

The thymus was in the illustration, but wasn't in the list, so I added it... does its prominence in the immune system preclude its inclusion here? Pjrich 23:34, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

No, it has nolog aon to www.yahoo.com/endocrine or call rachel function. JFW | T@lk 07:37, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

The Thymus isn't really well know for it's systemic hormonal effects. It does have paracrine functions, and it may well have a role in lymphocyte chemotaxis. Check out Thymus. If its in the picture i'd leave it, but it shouldn't get a mention as an endocrine organ unless someone has a reference.... Markjohndaley 15:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

If a women has a penis she is a transexual.

Does this disorder cause abnormal amounts of facial hair on the face of a woman? My wife suffers from this and has an appointment at a Endiocrine clinic and wants to know what it is and the cure if any.

Hirsutism. Requires a basic hormonal workup (blood tests). If those are normal, topical treatment (e.g. with eflornithine) may be considered. If abnormal, the cause may need to be corrected (e.g. weight loss and/or metformin for PCOS). JFW | T@lk 22:33, 24 January 2006

Though I do sympathise with anyone in need of medical information, this is not a forum for medical advice. Markjohndaley 18:00, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

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biggest endocrine gland

What is the biggest endocrine gland?

Pancreas

The islet cells really are small, so I think they wouldn't count. I'd say skin or liver (or skeletal muscle for thrombopoietin).Markjohndaley 18:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Diffusion Endocrine System

Why is it blank? And why hasn't it been edited yet?

Big errors,this article is of no use

I'm a medical student, no doctor or endocrinologist,, but my knowledge from studying from books is enough for me to notice that this article is full of errors. Correct me if I'm wrong if someone is an expert in this field and please state why my manuals are different from what the author of this article claims.

The introductary already contains alot of false infromation.

The endocrine system is a control system of ductless glands (WRONG: there are many diffuse endocrine glands reffered to as endocrine tissue also belonging to this system) that secrete chemical "instant messengers" (WRONG: Instant is far from the truth, nervous signals is reffered to as the fast controling system of the body, the endocrine system is the contrary, sure some hormones like ephedrine act quickly in a matter of seconds but others ex. growth hormone can require days or even weeks for it's effects to become noticible) called hormones that circulate within the body via the bloodstream to affect distant cells within specific organs (WRONG: some hormoes effect every cell in the body for example Thyroxine. Hormones can act locally to, remember endocrine only means that the glands don't have ducts, many cells are endocrine cells that effect nearbycells with hormones never enetering the bloodstream) Endocrine glands secrete their products immediately into the blood or interstitial fluid, without storage of the chemical(WRONG: for the products to be able to be immediatly released (synthesis from scratch is not a "instant" process") most of the are stored awaiting relase, ex. Norephinephrine resides in vesicles awaiting release). Hormones act as "messengers," and are carried by the bloodstream to different cells in the body, which interpret these messages and act on them. Typical endocrine glands are pituitary, thyroid, and adrenal glands, but not exocrine glands such as salivary glands, sweat glands and glands within the gastrointestinal tract (WRONG: enteroendocrine cells are present in the gastrointestinal tract). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.99.20.132 (talk • contribs)

Great. Could you do us a favor and rewrite the article including citations to the manuals you already have handy? :) That's what wikipedia is all about: users continually improving articles when they have access to better information. --Robb0995 07:43, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I had a crack at it. The idea of ductless glands is prototypical of an endocrine organ. I generalised it because, especially at the level the article has to start with, you can't have it rush forward too soon. I've added in bits on local signalling, storage(TYPICAL). I've mentioned that exocrine glands tend to have a lumen which is a better way of implying that gastrointesinal organs are not considered as endocrine. I think we have to be careful now. we have to make sure that we keep neurological signalling (gap-junctions and interneural signalling) right out of an endocrine article. However, I do feel that the hypothalamus, although a part of the brain is an endocrine organ because of its function(really it is a bridge between the two. My contention is this: The neuroendocrine system, at least in regard to modern medicine, a subset of endocrinology. (87.99.20.132 is correct when he says other signalling takes place in the gut 5HT for instance, and vagally initiated endocrine signalling, which do not involve the hypothalamus.) So do we suggest this article subsume the neuroendocrine system article? do we care?Markjohndaley 15:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Ignore the 2nd half of what I just said.. I ramble. I think this article has to be about high level structure and function, dipping into insights on particular vistas of interest.. the purpose of signalling in a multicellular organ, A photo of a cushingoid man. The shape of a hormone. Schemata of signal paths. Endocrine organs and development. Historical conception of the endocrine system, The endocrine system in arts and literaure Markjohndaley 19:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

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Role in disease

"Secondary is a dysfunction that originates elsewhere like the pituitary gland" Does it want to say that the dysfunction originates elsewhere than the pituitary gland? Else - elsewhere than what?

I gave some examples and changed the grammar, but I didn't spend too much time on it.. exams and all.. gee I want a paycheck.. Markjohndaley 15:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

What effects the endocrine system?

Shouldn't there be an area that explains what can strengthen the endocrine system, it tells of disease but not how it can be treated or strengthened.71.112.204.127 Insert non-formatted text here

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Vandalism

I just spent the better part of an hour restoring large chunks of this article that I (with great difficulty) discovered had been deleted all the way back on February 7, 2008 -- without anybody ever realizing.

Somehow, nobody ever noticed the loss of the following:

• The main illustration at the top of the article
• Two entire charts
• The See also section
• The External links section
• All six of the navigational templates at the bottom end
• The Categories

I would like to make two suggestions:

1. The regular editors need to do a better job keeping tabs on changes & vandalism
2. The article probably needs semi-protection from anon. IP vandals

Cgingold (talk) 12:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)