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Tracking category issue

Moved from User talk:Tom.Reding § Tracking category issue

Category:Taxonbars of monotypic genera missing species seems to contain many cases where the species is in the taxonbar. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:26, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The majority of these cases are most likely due to point number (4) in the category description: "the genus does not specify a taxonomic type (P427) at all, which should be added". I've removed Abactochromis via changes @ Abactochromis (Q14023599) & Abactochromis labrosus (Q115865) as an example. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 12:19, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see. I wonder if there is a different way to track this issue given that there are currently 4,701 pages in the category, so fixing all the Wikidata items isn't realistic. Is it possible to check, for example, whether a species with the same genus name is present in the taxonbar? Peter coxhead (talk) 14:04, 20 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I could separate these missing-taxonomic-type cases into something like Category:Taxonbars of monotypic genera missing taxonomic type.

As for checking whether a species with the same genus name is present in the taxonbar, yes it's possible, but from Category:Taxonbars of monotypic genera missing species's description: "Specifying the appropriate monotypic species via |from2=QID will not remove this category; the change must be made on Wikidata. This prevents the "hiding" of the above errors.", which I think you were an advocate of. Therefore, Category:Taxonbars of monotypic genera missing species would have to be split into:

Would all this be desirable? Or perhaps I could first create Category:Taxonbars of monotypic genera missing taxonomic type, then we could see what's left in Category:Taxonbars of monotypic genera missing species, and decide from there if the cat should be split in 2? I favor creating Category:Taxonbars of monotypic genera missing taxonomic type first. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 19:13, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I do think it is useful to try to distinguish between cases where the issue is at Wikidata and cases where the issue is only here on Wikipedia. I'm happy for you to proceed as you think suggest. The target is to end up with some smaller, more precise categories with a better chance of fixes. Peter coxhead (talk) 17:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

After some reflection, in lieu of creating Category:Taxonbars of monotypic genera missing taxonomic type & the corresponding Category:Taxonbars of monotypic species missing parent taxon, I think it's better for now to simply group the 'missing' pages together under a dedicated sortkey in their current respective categories (Category:Taxonbars of monotypic genera missing species & Category:Taxonbars of monotypic species missing genera), which will be moved to Category:Taxonbars of monotypic genera missing species on Wikidata & Category:Taxonbars of monotypic species missing genera on Wikidata, which will also have their own '... on Wikipedia' counterparts. I'll let this stew here for week or so for any comments before implementing. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 20:52, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 03:22, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

TaiCOL ids

TaiCOLid is an important East Asian id. I would like it to show automatically on the taxonbar (or at least have the option |TaiCOL=yes. East Asian species are underrepresented in enwiki (and in Western online databases -confused taxonomy) and it is always useful to be able to click on an identifier. (In the case of Amphimenes asahinai it was the only source I found for its being endemic to Taiwan. (In addition to the enwiki taxonbar it would also be great to see it on the Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Russian taxonbars. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:45, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 04:28, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose the old flagged 'CoL-Taiwan' (P3088) entries need replacing. — Jts1882 | talk 09:11, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~Although perhaps there aren't any. I find none with this search.~~ — Jts1882 | talk 09:14, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. This search returns 16 results. — Jts1882 | talk 09:21, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much. @Tom.Reding: MargaretRDonald (talk) 18:28, 17 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Monotypic species"

So, can I ask why in the Lua module, when the code checks for a monotypic genus whether the primary item is the genus or species, that both the genus and the species's items have to be an instance of 'monotypic taxon' or 'monotypic fossil taxon'? Species items are not normally set as instances of these, which may explain why Category:Taxonbars of monotypic genera missing species on Wikidata has 4,764 items as of writing while Category:Taxonbars of monotypic species missing genera on Wikidata has zero. (To take an example, Abatetia is in the former category because its genus item Abatetia (Q4663575) is 'monotypic' but not the species item Abatetia robusta (Q14533231).) Monster Iestyn (talk) 13:57, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]