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Move to general name

Hi @Captain Calm: thanks for taking initiative there. The reason I had it named that ways is to not confuse potential readers looking for an introductory article on CM, if that's not a big deal then that is cool. Also, there is one more book with the exact same name that is notable enough to receive an article and I will probably do it soon, but this is definitely the more notable of the two (the other one is referred to as Ashcroft and Mermin almost exclusively). So I suppose this is fine if no one else has any objections. Footlessmouse (talk) 13:24, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 01:06, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that, by choosing the content to include in his famous 1953 textbook Introduction to Solid State Physics, Charles Kittel helped define the field of solid-state physics? Source: Cohen, Marvin L.; Cohen, Morrel H. (1 October 2019). "Charles Kittel". Physics Today. 72 (10): 73–73. doi:10.1063/PT.3.4326. ISSN 0031-9228.
- ALT1:... that in 1953, Charles Kittel published the first textbook in the field of solid-state physics, titled Introduction to Solid State Physics? Source: Ehrenreich, H. (19 August 1977). "Solid State: A New Exposition". Science. 197 (4305): 753–753. doi:10.1126/science.197.4305.753. ISSN 0036-8075.

Exempt from reviews with only one credit. Is a new article.

Created by Footlessmouse (talk). Self-nominated at 23:51, 7 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

I will pick this up later tonight. Looking forward to reviewing. Ktin (talk) 22:54, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good to go. Hook is interesting. Passes all other checks. I have assumed WP:AGF for many offline links. But, I don't foresee an issue. I prefer the original hook even though more verbose. Question to the nominator, can you edit rows 21 and 22 of the TOC and have the topics added on the RHS. Currently they are conspicuous by remaining empty. Cheers and good luck. Ktin (talk) 02:47, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment for closer Feel free to change "that, by choosing the content to include in his famous 1953 textbook Introduction to Solid State Physics" to "that, by choosing the content to include in his famous 1953 introductory textbook on the subject" to avoid repeating Introduction to Solid State Physics. My apologizes for not adding this before the review. Footlessmouse (talk) 21:15, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- Alt3: ... that, by choosing the content to include in his famous 1953 introductory textbook on the subject, Charles Kittel helped define the field of solid-state physics?

Hi, I came by to promote this, but the paragraph under Publication history needs at least one cite per Rule D2. Yoninah (talk) 23:35, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah:, at your request, I have removed the summary of the publication history, as it summarized the lists below it, there were no references for it, everything was verifiable by the lists below it and common knowlege. Please note, as it was a summary of all the other book citations below it, it did not ever violate rule D2, but I removed anyways. Thanks. Footlessmouse (talk) 00:50, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I saw that the paragraph was mentioning it was up to the 8th edition, while in the list you have a 9th edition. Restoring tick per Ktin's review. Yoninah (talk) 01:04, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Two dead links from Wiley

Hi all, and @Ktin:, Wiley has a problem with dead DOIs and URLs lately, I'm seeing it everywhere. Also, the nature.com repository that holds DOIs for many of the Scientific American articles does not work right now either. The article can be found on Google by using the journal, volume, issue, and page numbers provided, but it doesn't really update the references, we can remove the URLs and DOIs for now until they start working again. Footlessmouse (talk) 03:28, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Footlessmouse, are you thinking we replace them with other references? Ktin (talk) 03:50, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktin: those are the correct references, you find all the articles on Google and when you plug in the URL into the cite tool, it changes to match the DOI which does not currently work. They are book reviews, we can't change them out with anything else, but they are German book reviews, you can make an argument on this page that they are not particularly necessary. The problem exists on many other pages, though, so for now I had planned on just leaving them and hope the problem fixes itself. Footlessmouse (talk) 04:02, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Footlessmouse, sounds reasonable. Hence, I had marked AGF in my notes. That said, I think this is good to go forward. Ktin (talk) 05:04, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]