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"Advancement" and "Progress"

The words advancement and progress are very prominent in the first few paragraphs. These imply directionality. Use of these words and directionality is opposed by many anthropologists. I will change these to better convey what "characteristics" informally are called civilization. Please explain any disagreements if it is deemed necessary to undo my changes.

Feudalism is a civilization

According to historians: "Feudal civilization" See the books results: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22feudal+civilization%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=djCJVr-8OMLzPYP4jsAK#q=%22feudal+civilization%22&tbm=bks

This article is terrible

Civilization is not properly defined, the characteristic markers seem to be put in negative tint. There is no stratification necessary to model a civilization. Perharps, rewording would be beneficial 103.210.42.141 (talk) 12:26, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I removed "imposed by a cultural elite" which just seems weird and obviously not a necessary part of the definition. Feel free to edit it further. If you want to see how really terrible and useless this article used to be, look back in the history- [[1]]. Volunteer1234 (talk) 19:04, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Dawn of civilization" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Dawn of civilization. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 15#Dawn of civilization until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. TheAwesome Hwyh 20:35, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Iran the first....

The only one of these refs I can access in full says " further exploration of two nearby mounds found evidence of a large city, one that may have rivaled contemporary Ur in Mesopotamia." so this hardly supports the claim in the text, nor the dates. Nor does Jiroft culture; this seems to be agreed as an early Bronze Age culture, much later than 7,000 BC. I wonder if the ip's very first edit, back in April, is relevant? Johnbod (talk) 15:19, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnbod: as the IP stated they would sock - and clearly have been using at least two addresses to edit and has been making personal attacks, I've protected the page, as I felt that any other Admin would have done the same. Doug Weller talk 09:24, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is not my IP address: 2601:940:C000:46A0:C68:D0D6:A543:4F4D.

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