Talk:Mac transition to Apple silicon

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Improve the article's title by distinguishing the Mac product line from Apple as a whole

This article was originally created with the title Apple's transition to ARM processors, being modeled on the title of the existing article at Apple's transition to Intel processors. As many are aware, however, Apple Inc. is not at all new to ARM-based processors, having used them for over ten years in its iPhone and iPad product lines. Therefore it's not entirely accurate to say that "Apple" (as a company) is now "transitioning" to the ARM architecture; rather, it's the company's Macintosh product line that's now making that transition. (The same issue has, in fact, been raised and discussed on several previous occasions in regard to the "transition to Intel" article, as can be seen on its talk page.)
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If this article is going to encompass the full history of Apple's adoption of ARM chips, going all the way from to circa-2006 up to the present, then the current title is fine. On the other hand, if this article is going to focus more narrowly on the transition from Intel x86 chips to ARM64 "Apple Silicon" of the Mac hardware line, and/or the macOS operating system (let's remember that the two, though related, are not the same), then it would probably be appropriate to refine the article's title accordingly. Do you agree?
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If so, then choosing the best alternative would seem to be largely a matter of weighing clarity versus brevity. Options that come to mind fit any of the following patterns:

?{Apple|Apple's} {macOS|Macintosh|Mac} ?{platform} {transition to|migration to|adoption of} ARM ?{processors|architecture}
?{Apple|Apple's} {macOS|Macintosh|Mac}-on-ARM {transition|migration}
{Transition|Migration} of ?{Apple|Apple's} {macOS|Macintosh|Mac} ?{platform} to {ARM|"Apple Silicon"} ?{processors|architecture}

(I'm hoping you can interpret my improvised grep-like syntax; basically, "{foo|bar|bazz}" indicates alternatives, and "?{xyz}" indicates optional omission.)
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It's possible that, over time, there will come to be some vernacular term that is most commonly used to refer to the transition we're talking about here, and if that happens, the term would probably make for a good article title (per WP:COMMONNAME). Until then, it's up to us to decide, based on editorial judgment. What are your thoughts, fellow editors? ~ Thanks, — Jaydiem (talk) 06:08, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. See also Apple Newton lol. Anyway, it'd be "Mac transition to ARM". "Apple's Mac" and "ARM processors" are each redundant, and both is even redundantly redundantlier. The older article's sloppy title should be changed to "Mac transition to Intel". — Smuckola (talk) 07:07, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Apple's not undergoing a corporate transition to ARM, the Macintosh line is undergoing such a transition. "Mac transition to ARM" sounds OK to me. Guy Harris (talk) 07:43, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with these sentiments. I was similarly uncomfortable with the article title's suggestion that the entirety of Apple Inc.'s hardware products were being transitioned to ARM, when in fact what's ongoing exclusively refers to the Macintosh product line, and I'm glad this imprecision is being discussed. I'd be comfortable with most of the more precise titles suggested above -- maybe "Mac transition to {ARM, Apple silicon}", and also relatedly, "Mac transition to Intel x86 architecture." On a side note, as has been suggested, Apple first utilized ARM processors in the Newton line of computers (PDA's), which was introduced in 1993. Biblib (talk) 14:50, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with the above sentiments. Current title is misleading. --Resplendent (talk) 15:31, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]