Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/December 2006
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This is an archive of discussions from Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals for the month of December 2006. Please move completed December discussions to this page as they occur, add discussion headers to each proposal showing the result, and leave incomplete discussions on the Proposals page. After December, the remainder of the discussions will be moved to this page, whether stub types have been created or not.
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Stub proposers please note: Items tagged as "nocreate" or "no consensus" are welcome for re-proposal if and when circumstances are auspicious.
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- {{sfp other}} (for no consensus)
- {{sfp top}} for customized result description (use {{sfp top|result}}).
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The result of the debate was create template, upmerge cat.
We already have stub categories for United Kingdom Members of Parliament (MPs) from the other two major parties ({{Labour-UK-MP-stub}} and {{Conservative-UK-MP-stub}}). At the time those stub categories were created earlier this year, there were not many articles on Liberal MPs. That's partly because editors have concentrated on creating articles on more recent MPs (and obviously there have been no Liberal MPs since 1948).
However, as coverage of 19th century MPs grows, there are an increasing number of articles on Liberals: until the 1920s, they were one of the two dominant political parties. Category:Liberal MPs (UK) now has over 300 articles, some of which had existed previously but not been correctly categorised. I haven't counted how many of them are stubs (does someone have a tool to do that?), but I think that about half of the current crop are stubs, and I know that more will be created. (Note those counting: it's not enough simply to chck the intersection between Category:Liberal MPs (UK) and {{UK-MP-stub}}; some of th existing stubs may be tagged as {{Scotland-MP-stub}} or {{UK-politician-stub}}, and I have found plenty that have a much more generalised stub tag) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- For information The discussion which led to the creation of {{Labour-UK-MP-stub}} and {{Conservative-UK-MP-stub}} is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/August 2006 completed#Split_of_.7B.7BUK-MP-stub.7D.7D_.2F_Cat:British_MP_stubs. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:14, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- Support template. Create category as soon as we have 60 relevant articles. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 18:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
{{Sudan-ethno-group-stub}} / Category:Sudanese ethnicity stubs / {{Kenya-ethno-group-stub}} / {{Ethiopia-ethno-group-stub}}
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The result of the debate was create.
With the success of the Tanzania stub (there are well over 100 in the category created yesterday), I am proposing another major stub to break down the behemoth that is the Africa-ethno-group-stub. I haven't done a count, but Sudan has 173 articles in their "Ethnic groups in Sudan" category. Just guessing, but I bet their is at least 100 stubs to be found for this one. I am also proposing templates and upmerging for the Kenya (59 articles in category) and Ethiopia (49).--Thomas.macmillan 14:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 17:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
{{DeStijlMovement}}
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The result of the debate was do not create.
In the Category:Art_movements_stubs there is no De Stijl/Neo-modernism art stub; perhaps an addition would be helpful? It seems hard to describe articles like Red_and_Blue_Chair as any other type of art. AC 14:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I fully understand (actually, I suspect you don't understand). That category contains individual articles about specific movements. The article on De Stijl is well beyond stub level. Individual works of art are sorted according to what they are, rather than the movement involved in their style. In this case, the item in question is a piece of furniture and as such should be stubbed with furniture-stub as well as art-stub. Hopefully it's in the permanent Category:De Stijl category though. Grutness...wha? 23:16, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was create.
Per previous English-regional splits; parent is oversized again. 57 articles on the basis of what's now a verrrrrry olllllld db dump, may well have grown in the meantime. Alai 22:36, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, I was forgetting about Wiltshire, which is officially in the SW, so it's over 60. I've speedied this, since the precedent of English regions seems pretty clear. Alai 01:43, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
{{Zimbabwe-bio-stub}} and corresponding category
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The result of the debate was create.
With a hand count, I found 88 potential stubs and it has one sub category.--Thomas.macmillan 20:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- I'd like to support this, if I may. I've been trying to write up articles for a bunch of Zimbabwean sculptors, and I know there are more than 60 of those alone. I'm not quite ready to request a stub for Zimbabwean artists, but that might not be so far off... --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 06:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Support. The category should be named Category:Zimbabwean people stubs to match the corresponding material (perm cat and related stub categories). Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 17:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Btw, now that we're at it anyway, an upmerged -politician template might be an idea. Do we have an updated count for them? Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 11:00, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't do a handcount, but there are 47 articles in the Zimbabwean politican category.--Thomas.macmillan 14:08, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was do not create.
I would like to propose the above stub, and I propose that {{Fann Wong film-stub}} feeds into Category:Fann Wong films. Voda voda 19:21, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- There are 7 articles in Category:Fann Wong films, so I'm not sure you'll be able to get 60 stubs out of that. Oppose ~ Amalas rawr =^_^= 19:23, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Plus, 99.999% of film stub categories are created by genre or nationality rather than participant, so it wouldn't really conform to the convention either. If you want to connect a bunch of the actress' films, you might try using a navigation box instead of a stub template. Cheers, Her Pegship 23:23, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- A navigation box was what I was looking for! Thanks! Voda voda 02:44, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- Plus, 99.999% of film stub categories are created by genre or nationality rather than participant, so it wouldn't really conform to the convention either. If you want to connect a bunch of the actress' films, you might try using a navigation box instead of a stub template. Cheers, Her Pegship 23:23, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was create bio, do not create politician.
I got a little inspired by the proposal for Zimbabwe and I counted 59 stubs here. Suggest both template and category. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 17:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- I haven't done a count, but perhaps an upmerged -politician template might be an idea since we're going through this material anyway. Does anybody have an updated count for them? Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 11:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- I haven't done a hand count, but there are only 27 articles in the Zambia politician category.--Thomas.macmillan 14:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, it was worth a shot :) Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 14:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was do not create.
7 Television Networks will be reinstated and I can Propose
- {{CBS-stub}}-feeding into Category:CBS stubs
- {{NBC-stub}}-feeding into Category:NBC stubs
- {{ABC-stub}}-feeding into Category:ABC stubs
- {{TheCW-stub}}-feeding into Category:The CW stubs
- {{MyNetworkTV-stub}}-feeding into Category:My Network TV stubs
- {{Univision-stub}}-feeding into Category:Univision stubs
- {{Telefutura-stub}}-feeding into Category:Telefutura stubs All the Television Networks will be hitting 1000.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.77.215.153 (talk)
- The first 3 have already been deleted as a part of this discussion. Oppose all ~ Amalas rawr =^_^= 04:52, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- All of them hitting 1,000? Not until pigs begin to fly. Oppose all Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 17:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Strong oppose I could possibly see using network affiliation as a way of subdividing Category:United States television program stubs or Category:United States television biography stubs but categorizing commercial TV stations by stubs, which based on past practice of stub assignment would be the main use of a plain network stub, is not a good stub assignment. Caerwine Caer’s whines 20:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Found an existing {{MNTV-stub}} / Category:MyNetworkTV stubs pair that got overlooked back in October containing all of 5 station stubs. Have sent that pair directly to SFD without collecting dust at Discoveries first. Caerwine Caer’s whines 20:49, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was do not create.
This would be a great place for all the character articles clogging up the Computer-Video-Game-Stubs category. If you have a better name or anything you wish to revise, feel free. It seems redundant to list the articles that would fall under this stub, but I will if it is required. Serph, Hitoshura, and Argilla are a few quick examples.N9philim 01:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Already exists with {{cvg-char-stub}}. It may need further sorting though. Crystallina 01:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)