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November 25

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Commerce websites

Nominator's rationale: No actual articles, nor any definition. Rathfelder (talk) 17:41, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Transformers spacecraft

Nominator's rationale: Only two articles. As they are more characters than ships, deleting makes more sense, but otherwise upmerge to only "Fictional spacecraft by work." TTN (talk) 14:23, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Dune spacecraft

Nominator's rationale: Only one article. I nominated it for deletion as well. If it survives, it should be upmerged to the parent categories. TTN (talk) 14:21, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Red Dwarf spacecraft

Nominator's rationale: Only one article. I nominated it for deletion. If it survives, then only the one article should be upmerged to the two parent categories. TTN (talk) 14:17, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Earth Alliance Vessels

Nominator's rationale: Redirect-only category. TTN (talk) 14:04, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Succession-based civil wars

Nominator's rationale: First: the term "succession-based civil war" – defined as 'civil wars in which the primary cause involved rights to succession to leadership' – appears to be entirely WP:OR (created by User:BusterD in January 2008), no scholar uses it.
Second: there appears to be no clear distinction between this s-bcw and a war of succession, especially because this s-bcw category's description claims that "The main article for this category is War of succession", adding "See also: Category:Dynastic conflicts", while being a subcategory of Category:Wars of succession; this is a clear indication that purports to describe some subset of the same phenomenon, although it is unclear which, since it doesn't have its own separate Wikipedia article and is not recognised by scholars using the term.
Third: wars of succession are always 'civil wars', that is to say, intrastate wars: an armed conflict between factions within a state. Even if monarch X of state A intervenes on behalf of one of the claimants (say, Y) for the throne of state B, that doesn't change the fact that there is conflict inside state B between claimants Y and Z. Even if monarch X of state A is himself/herself a claimant to the throne of state B in opposition to claimant Z, who may be a native of state B and/or of the same dynasty of the previous monarch of state B, monarch X usually has supporters (armed or unarmed, perhaps paid, such as mercenaries or proxies) inside state B who fight or advocate for X's claim. But even if monarch X doesn't have any factual support inside state B, the nature of the claim is such that by definition, X is head of the government of state B in opposition to whoever else claims that function, automatically creating an intrastate conflict. In other words, a purely interstate war of succession does not exist, so a distinction between "succession-based civil wars" and "other" wars of succession seems to be imaginary.
Fourth and final: the definition of these s-bcw is very vague on what it means with 'leadership', and the articles inside this category are often about civil wars that do not involve any dynastic, hereditary succession disputes in monarchies at all, but also contested presidential elections or uprisings against (republican) military regimes, such as the Chilean Civil War of 1891 (added by BusterD), Central Plains War (added by BusterD), Somali Civil War and the Libyan Civil War (2014–present) (added by Charles Essie), all of which took/take place in republics in which there were/are no claimants to any throne, no 'dynastic conflicts' (ps: there have been some rare monarchist demonstrations in Libya, but they don't represent any significant belligerent faction (none of which is headed by or advocating for a claimant), let alone that the death or incapacitation of a monarch caused or directed this war in any significant way). So in a number of instances, the creator BusterD and later Wikipedians do not seem to realise how the term 'war of succession' is used by scholars (as a sidenote: I've given an elaborate overview of how I use it and why here), or interpret 'leadership' wider than just hereditary monarchial reign while invoking 'wars of succession' as the subject and supercategory of s-bcw, which is unhelpful.
In conclusion, I would say that the s-bcw category should be merged into the wars of succession category, except for all the wars in it that have nothing to do with disputed dynastic hereditary successions, and so have no place in either category. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 12:17, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant portals categories

Propose merging
Nominator's rationale: Propose merging to all parents per WP:SMALLCAT. The deletion at WP:MFD of many neglected and unsupported portals has left each of these container categories with only one portal, plus in some cases a category for that portal. These nominated categories are therefore now just redundant layers in the category tree. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:09, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
All 7 categories now tagged. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:37, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedia training Meta

Nominator's rationale: This is a Special:WantedCategories creation. Whatever purpose this single-page category might have served at one time, it serves none now. Wikipedia:Training appears to be abandoned, and Category:Wikipedia training is certainly not so populated that a single-page training "module" needs its own sub-category. (Courtesy pinging the category's creator, User:BrownHairedGirl) -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:37, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Norfolk County, Massachusetts Registrars of Deeds

Nominator's rationale: Category for a government position that does not grant notability. I merged one of them and the other two are at AFD. ミラP 04:17, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Beyzai templates

Nominator's rationale: As far as I can tell, we have only one template related to Bahram Beyzai. As the head template for an eponymous category, it can reside in the main category, and a dedicated sub-category is not needed. It is not necessary to upmerge (i.e., to all parents) as the template is already otherwise categorized. (Courtesy pinging the category's creator, User:Salarabdolmohamadian) -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:34, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In the Persian Wikipedia there are numerous templates for various works by Bahram Beyzai, and making many more is underway. In the English Wikipedia there used to be a sidebar for Bahram Beyzai, other than the present template. They have been merged now; yet, considering the scope of the growing contents of the sidebar in the Persian version, I think we shall need to revive the sidebar in the English Wikipedia as well.Salarabdolmohamadian (talk) 07:01, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe fighters

Nominator's rationale: The subject of this category isn't remotely notable. What other individual fighting games have a character category? Imagine clicking on the Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) article and seeing "Category:Mortal Kombat (video game) characters", "Category:Mortal Kombat 2 characters", ETC, all down the References section.
There are also no other video games or genres where we create a category for characters appearing in an individual installment of a series that I'm aware of. This is so fringe that, at first, I thought Schmidt-austin had created another sock. DarkKnight2149 02:47, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Touchscreen mobile phones

Nominator's rationale: Category doomed to incompleteness due to obsolescence. This category originated at a time when touchscreens were a novelty. Nowadays the 100% of smartphones include it, so nobody will care to add this category to every single device that comes out. uKER (talk) 00:16, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, it would be more useful to categorise mobile phones without touchscreens, as they are becoming rare now. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 16:53, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]


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