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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Technically close to "keep" seeing as the delete camp is mostly framed in "not sure this meets NFCC#8" rather than "does not meet NFCC#8". Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:25, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- File:Restless Overexposure.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Drovethrughosts (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
There's already one piece of non-free media showing the visual style. I'm not sure that two can be justified. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:27, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
- Why not? The episode is known for its unique visual style and that's why there are images, which are backed by it being discussed in the article along with sources. The article was promoted to GA with said images and there was no issue. I'd happily replace the second image with another example, if you believe there's a better choice. I worked hard on that article back in 2011 to get it to GA, so I'd like for it to stay intact–images and all. Drovethrughosts (talk) 18:40, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
- Just going to point out WP:ITSGA here since passing through an FA/GA discussion without being noticed or being used in an FA/GA article doesn't automatically mean WP:NFCCP compliance. However, this does seem to be pretty close to if not already meeting WP:NFC#CS (i.e. WP:NFCC#8) given that it's used to help the reader understand how a particular filming technique was used in support of article content about the technique. Personally, I think it would be better if there was a secondary source cited for the content along with the DVD audio commentary cited by Wheldon in support of that; that would make the justification for the non-free use of this particular screenshot stronger in my opinion. Are there any secondary sources that can be found which discusses the filming techniques used for this episode? -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:57, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 14:46, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 14:46, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- Keep the overexposure visible in this image has adjacent sourced critical commentary. The other image is used to illustrate other visual aspects. Two images to make two separate points is not excessive. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:18, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on 2019 October 15. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:28, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- File:Veronica - Vatican2.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs)
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- File:Golden Lion size.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ramòn DeLa Porta (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Wikipedia:NFCC#1. There is a free copyright and similar topic image. SCP-2000 (talk) 16:36, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Also, please use{{ping}} when you talk to me. Thank you!--SCP-2000 (talk) 16:40, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - The nominated image is the three-dimensional artwork of the prize. The one at Italian Wikipedia (it:File:Leone d'oro Mostra del cinema.png) is the drawing (two-dimensional) derivative of the copyrighted sculptural work; someone at it-wiki should either re-categorize it as non-free (but fair use) or nominate it for deletion. The "free" one shan't be transferred to Commons. -- George Ho (talk) 17:33, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Just for the note, Italy lacks freedom of panorama especially for buildings and three-dimensional artworks (c:COM:FOP Italy). George Ho (talk) 17:36, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete and use File:Oshri Cohen holding the Golden lion.jpg instead, per WP:FREER. --Wcam (talk) 11:30, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Is a picture of Oshri Cohen holding the award acceptable per Commons rules and copyright law? George Ho (talk) 17:41, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- @George Ho:I think the image acceptable per rule.--SCP-2000 (talk) 11:06, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Would it be possible to crop the image if it were used, to remove Cohen's face? I'd rather not have him be the "main" image of the Golden Lion article and thereby get UNDUE prominence. (If so, then delete and used a cropped version of the Cohen image.) – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 18:49, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
- Without knowing or the file page describing where the photo was taken, I am uncertain whether the award portion of the Cohen image is suitable for Commons. Strangely, photos of other people holding their own awards, like Neil Patrick Harris, one guy holding an Oscar, and one supporting actress holding an Emmy, aren't yet deleted. I found one 2012 Commons discussions about the issue. By reading the discussion, those photos were supposed to be generally discouraged (unless cropping out awards is possible?), and de minimis may not apply. --George Ho (talk) 05:42, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- Is a picture of Oshri Cohen holding the award acceptable per Commons rules and copyright law? George Ho (talk) 17:41, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 14:49, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 14:49, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- Delete and upload locally a cropped version from File:Oshri Cohen holding the Golden lion.jpg as non-free to satisfy WP:FREER. I don't think it:File:Leone d'oro Mostra del cinema.png would have been a free equivalent anyway; it's not the real deal. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:15, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Copyrighted award, no free equivalent exists. -FASTILY 21:57, 23 November 2019 (UTC)