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Category:Leaders of universities in Nigeria

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge (in practice, same as delete). – Fayenatic London 18:24, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: All the heads of universities in Nigeria seem to be called Vice-Chancellors. Rathfelder (talk) 21:05, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:University and college vice-chancellors

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:34, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Vice-chancellor is only one of a variety of names for heads of universities. Rathfelder (talk) 21:03, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:University and college vice-chancellors by country

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:34, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Vice-chancellor is only one of a variety of titles for heads of universities. Nothing is gained by subcategorising them by title. Rathfelder (talk) 21:01, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:University and college presidents

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:35, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Most of the sub-categories are not presidents. Many are rectors, chancellors etc. The title of president does not have a consistent meaning across different countries. Rathfelder (talk) 20:36, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Negro league baseball venues remnants remain

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:36, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The title is ungrammatical and not part of any "remnants remain" category tree. We also normally only categorize by permanent characteristics. The also fails the "Did the category creator understand what they were creating?" test as it was created with no parent categories. DexDor (talk) 17:58, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:United States Senators and all its progeny

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 September 16#Category:United States Senators and all its progeny

Category:University of Maryland University College

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 09:41, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Consistency with main article name University of Maryland Global Campus following article move to UMUC's new official name. The move was proposed as speedy but opposed as main article was moved only recently and without a page move discussion. TSventon (talk) 14:01, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question, while this Global Campus has become part of the official name, is it also part of the common name? Marcocapelle (talk) 03:39, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • User:Marcocapelle, I have no connection to UMUC/UMGC and moved the main article following a request from the university on helpdesk. I would generally expect a university's official name to be its common name and the new name is probably less confusing than the old one. The reference provided said "The massive effort to transition to the new name has already begun and will continue into 2020",[1] so perhaps the change could have waited a bit. TSventon (talk) 12:07, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "UMUC Is Now University of Maryland Global Campus". University of Maryland Global Campus. 2019-07-01. Retrieved 2019-09-06.
  • Support As of 7/1/19 the university name was officially changed. University of Maryland Global Campus is the official and common name. David (talk) 14:49, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in the case of instutitions we almost always use their official name, unless some variation of the official name is used reguarly in reliable sources. We also almost always respond immediately to institutional renames. This is especially true when it is a rename of an institution so there is no common use to invoke.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:23, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Austrian Empire military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars

The "Category:Austrian Empire military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars" has to be renamed, since the French Revolutionary Wars ended in 25 March 1802, while the Austrian Empire was created only in 1804. The proposed accurate description should be: "Category:Habsburg Monarchy military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars".(KIENGIR (talk) 10:56, 8 September 2019 (UTC))[reply]
Marcocapelle, please have in mind that the term "Austria" might be ambigous and recently we are fixing these problems with proper wikilinks in the related pages, after and issue and discussion, however despite the unliked "Austria" will remain part of many articles as soon the context is set in the lead or the infobox. However, partuclarly regarding your comment, Beaulieu was fighting for then the Habsburg Monarchy (inside of it was the Archduchy of Austria btw. among many other countries), but not the Austrian Empire that did not exist then. More accurately, what you refer was the Imperial Army of the Habsburgs, not solely anytime Austria, not even the members or commaders were just Austrian.(KIENGIR (talk) 11:41, 8 September 2019 (UTC))[reply]
  • That is a bit beside the point I was trying to make. We should have a category for the Imperial Army and a category for the Austrian Empire, but diffusion by war leads to biographies being in a multitude of those categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:54, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Marcocapelle, You meant like "Category:Habsburg Imperial Army military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars"? In case please proceed with the renaming if everyone agrees, I never did that by a category, I do not wish to commit any technical mistake...Thank You.(KIENGIR (talk) 15:31, 8 September 2019 (UTC))[reply]
  • Rename I suspect the object is to cover the period 1790 (or 1792) to 1815. The category is well populated so that it should be Kept somehow. I would suggest Category:Austro-Hungarian military leaders 1790-1815. The period of the Revolutionary War may be an artefact of British history, as Austria was not at war with France for the whole period. Siblings may also need attention: the British sibling has one general in it, but there must be lots more. Peterkingiron (talk) 12:53, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Peterkingiron, thank's for the support for renaming, but there are problems with the details you presented. This particular category is valid only until 1804 (because that year the Austrian Empire was created. The suggestion of "Austro-Hungarian military leaders 1790-1815" would cause a bigger problem, since Austro-Hungarian refers to Austria-Hungary that emerged only in 1867, on the other hand in the Imperial Army not just Austrian, Hungarian, but generals with other nationality were present. Hence, still my original proposal seems the best "Category:Habsburg Monarchy military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars" or at least "Category:Habsburg Imperial Army military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars".(KIENGIR (talk) 13:00, 8 September 2019 (UTC))[reply]
Yes this is complicated, as is the whole notion of the Holy Roman Empire. Yes there were officers from other German states serving in the army, certainly in Turkish wars; and not as mere mercenaries. Perhaps Category:Hapsburg Imperial military leaders 1790-1815 would fit. This avoids a hiatus at 1801 (end of Revolutionary War) or 1804 (when HRE was replaced by Austrian Empire). There was a long period of war from the Revolution until Waterloo and the Congress of Vienna. The ruler throughout had the title of emperor, though the title changed. I think the 1867 transition was more about how Hungary was governed and the creation of a German Empire. Peterkingiron (talk) 11:37, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Peterkingiron, I'add that HRE was not necessarily replaced by AE, we could only say a partial "transformation" along 1804-1806, better to say the HM's and HRE's overlapping titles, territories and assumed dominions etc. had been "clarified" in a way regarding the transformation. However, your point is as well seems fine. Let us now summarize the proposals until now, and maybe together with Marcocapelle you could eliminate at least two versions of the four proposals, thus soon we may propose our final candidate (and excuse me that I present your proposal with 'b' instead of 'p'):
(1) Category:Habsburg Monarchy military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars
(2) Category:Habsburg Imperial Army military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars
(3) Category:Imperial Army
(4) Category:Habsburg Imperial military leaders 1790-1815(KIENGIR (talk) 18:01, 13 September 2019 (UTC))[reply]
To Marco's point, we should also consider what to do with Category:Military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars by nationality. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:27, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
We should rename it as well (replace "nationality" with something else, since Habsburg Monarchy was not a country, not a nation, etc., what would be the best English word, affiliation?)(KIENGIR (talk) 19:10, 14 September 2019 (UTC))[reply]

Category:Government of the Dutch Caribbean

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 09:42, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale There is no legal entity known as the Dutch Caribbean. Instead there are two types of legal entity in the Caribbean that are part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands: countries and special municipal territories. Each has its own kind of government. There is no overarching government for the collective territories, unless that be the government in the Netherlands proper. So it's more correct to speak of "government in" rather than "government of". Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:55, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Trolley parks

Nominator's rationale: All the parks are in the USA Rathfelder (talk) 09:51, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Chutes Park (for example) is in Category:Defunct amusement parks in California so I think there's a problem with that query. DexDor (talk) 18:40, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:JVP insurrections in film

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 13:55, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT; besides the films aren't really about the insurrections. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:29, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 09:27, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Marl Kingdom series

Nominator's rationale: The "series" disambiguation is unnecessary. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:43, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:FreeSpace (series)

Nominator's rationale: Disambiguation is unnecessary. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:38, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Battlefield (series) games

Nominator's rationale: There does not need to be a games subcategory for a video game series. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:05, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:MediaWiki sites

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 07:29, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Substantially the same scope. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 20:09, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:SGI supercomputers

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: do not rename. MER-C 13:58, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: As HPE purchased SGI, and HPE is still providing solutions under the SGI brand, I propose to rename the article as I suggested. Amitie 10g (talk) 21:10, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hardware provided by SGI will not be rebranded, and HPE adopted the "SGI" brand for their superconouters hardware line after the SGI purchase (see below).
The Electra hardware consist in the SGI ICE X (manufactured by Silicon Graphics International) and the HPE SGI 8600 (manufactured by HPE, after the SGI purchasing). Those hardware has been manufactured by there "different" companies, but, in terms of partnership, contracts and succession, those companies should be considered as the "same", as the newer company adopted the historical brand "SGI". --Amitie 10g (talk) 23:24, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Independent Power Producers of Pakistan

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. MER-C 09:43, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category has all the power companies in Pakistan. Descon doesnt seem to be generating company. They dont appear to be much more independent than those in other countries. There is an article Independent Power Producer but I dont think it makes a good foundation for categories. Monopolisatioin in this field varies by time and place. Its not terribly useful to try to separate companies which are monopolies from those which aren't. Rathfelder (talk) 07:24, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Title is very ambiguous. Only one subcategory Rathfelder (talk) 07:20, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:2007 in web series

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:57, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Single-entry WP:SMALLCAT which is being used solely to contain a single web series episode. We have no equivalent "Year in web series" categories for any other year in the entire history of human existence, and very little content to populate such a scheme with since very few web series ever actually warrant standalone articles about individual episodes — so there's no reason why this should stand alone as a special case. Bearcat (talk) 05:36, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional characters by subject

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:43, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category appears to have been created to diffuse the parent, but it contains an assortment of unrelated categories (e.g. lists, stubs) which would be better off in the parent. – Fayenatic London 03:08, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The difference from the parents seem obvious at first, but the contents are as dissimilar as those of the parent category. There seem to be at least four clusters of similar subcategories, with no relation in between except that they are not "by ______". There is no special reason to diffuse the parent this finely. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:17, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, the content of this subcategory cannot coherently be described as "by subject". Marcocapelle (talk) 11:31, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This category includes subcategories like "Mascots", "Lists of fictional characters", "Songs about fictional characters" and "Fictional characters based on real people", none of which can be accurately characterized as "Fictional characters by subject". The subject of a thing is the thing that first thing is about, and that's not an accurate assessment of what any of these categories are signifying — none of them have the word "by" in them, and the only one that has the word "about" in it has the fictional characters as the aboutee rather than the abouter. Bearcat (talk) 13:47, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Australian Living Treasures

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:57, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category for people on the basis of their having been named as icons in a listicle compiled by a subjective public opinion poll. This is not a defining characteristic for the purposes of justifying a category — we've regularly deleted things like this when they were tried for other similar poll-based lists like The Greatest Canadian, music magazine rankings of songs or albums, and on and so forth. If this kind of thing isn't already covered by an WP:OCAT proscription, it probably should be. Bearcat (talk) 02:54, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, they're already listed in National Living Treasure (Australia). Bearcat (talk) 18:10, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bytown

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 09:44, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Eponymous WP:SMALLCAT for the historical former name of a city that still exists. This is populated entirely by content that doesn't really need the demarcation: three of the five articles here are already filed in the target category alongside this because their scope crosses the city's renaming, and there's no reason why the other two couldn't be: those two are the eponym itself and the other thing that had the word "Bytown" in its name, which means they've been isolated from the overall history of Ottawa on purely WP:SHAREDNAME grounds. There's just not enough content that's defined by any meaningful Bytown-Ottawa distinction for two separate categories to be needed here — and in addition, this also has a tendency to accidentally collect some of the contemporary things that still to this day use "Bytown" as a nickname for Ottawa (ByTowne Cinema, Bytown Boys Supporters Club, etc.), which isn't its purpose and would still violate SHAREDNAME anyway. Bearcat (talk) 02:12, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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