Talk:Android version history/Archive 3
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Support Status
There is a column in the table called "Support Status". What does this mean? Are these versions of the OS no longer officially supported? Is the API not supported? Where are the citations/links to official Google sources indicating they are unsupported? -Seinfreak37 (talk) 14:54, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Starting with Android 5.0 Lollipop, monthly security patches are released, which come with new build numbers.
The most recent build for Lollipop is LMY49M, which was released in July 2016 for the Google Nexus 10.
Android Marshmallow and Nougat still receive new builds every month, which means they're still supported.
Evidence of this is on the Google Factory Images page, and the Android Build Numbers page.
When Google stops releasing monthly security updates for Android Marshmallow, then it will be unsupported.
Calvin Hogg (talk) 10:58, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I am looking at a 5.1.1
- Kernel version 3.10.65-10429622 Jan 18 2017
Android Security Patch level
- 1 January 2017
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:48, 3 April 2017 (UTC).
The support status column is misleading. The support from Google is only for specific hardware devices, not for the AOSP version. Also the support reference link is of poor quality. The link below is more clear about the Google support ending dates.
- https://support.google.com/android-one/answer/4457705 - When you'll get Android software updates - No guaranteed Android version updates after
Gohopper (talk) 16:23, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Pie chart colors
Whoever you are, are you color blind!? You could not have picked worse colors even if you tried to do it deliberately. :( Please change the top 4 colors (and all colors in fact) to more discriminating ones, this is ridiculous. Naki (talk) 14:32, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- For some reason an editor has uploaded this pie charge as an image, so it's difficult for anyone else to update it. I'd speculate that the colours were chosen to approximate the real life colours of the desserts themselves. Are the colours at Android (operating system)#Platform usage any better? We could replace the image on this page with the main article's wiki-chart if necessary and then tweak the colours all day long. – Steel 19:08, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- They were simpler before in all fairness. There's too much squashed in now. Can we get a consensus on something similar to iOS version history? Include the two or three newest versions individually, then everything else as "older versions" grouped together. I'll post a link to the iOS pie for comparison. Thanks ツ Jenova20 (email) 10:15, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Examples:

- iOS 10 (79%)
- iOS 9 (16%)
- Earlier (5%)
Can we limit the Android pies to something similar? Maybe not as restrictive but trim it a little in future? Thanks ツ Jenova20 (email) 10:22, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Steel -- No, these colors are equally horrible. See the basic 16 colors for what one would expect to see and what would be best:
Web_colors#HTML_color_names IF/when more than 16 colors are needed, then extra colors might be added. But the basic 16 colors are quite sufficient here. There is no need to tweak the colors too much, just have them be distinguishable.
Naki (talk) 09:34, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
- Jenova20, NO. Limiting the Android OS versions chart to just 3 colors (items) the way iOS pie chart looks is a really bad idea, so do not do that.Naki (talk) 09:34, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
- Addition - OK, yes - maybe in the future when there are too many Android OS versions to show them all, the list/chart could be made shorter/simpler by combining some of those. But currently I do not think with the versions released up to now that would be any good. 09:36, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Naki "Maybe not as restrictive but trim it a little in future" I don't think you read my message since you replied twice and both replies are contradictory...Thanks anyway though ツ Jenova20 (email) 08:29, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- You are welcome. Sorry, the 2 images get in the way, so I might have missed a bit of your text. Anyway, I do not think the number of colors is the matter here, but the (badly chosen) colors themselves.
- @Naki "Maybe not as restrictive but trim it a little in future" I don't think you read my message since you replied twice and both replies are contradictory...Thanks anyway though ツ Jenova20 (email) 08:29, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Basic 16 colors provide plenty colors to choose from. And the future you/I quote is likely at least 2-3 years away, I think. P.S. Can you move both images to the right? (so they do not get in the way in the way they do now) Naki (talk) 15:09, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- Sooo..? What happens now? No one up to the task at all? :( Naki (talk) 12:13, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- Earlier (10.9%)
- KitKat (18.8%)
- Lollipop (32%)
- Marshmallow (31.2%)
- Nougat (7.1%)
- Earlier (10.9%)
- KitKat (18.8%)
- Lollipop (32%)
- Marshmallow (31.2%)
- Nougat (7.1%)
The chart needed to be updated with the new distribution numbers, so I replaced the image with a simple {{Pie chart}}. For the colors I chose the same ones used in the table. Also, I replaced the mention to Marshmallow in the caption to Nougat. I don't know what the original intent was (either to mention the two most widely used versions, or the most used and the newest).--Titore (talk) 02:43, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- The original idea was to have something similar to the IOS pie chart where we replace the earliest versions with a single section called "earlier" while they're still around. I figured that way we could avoid up to 10 or more entries on the pie chart, with very similar colours in some cases, making for a difficult comparison. Thanks ツ Jenova20 (email) 08:17, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- I think using shades of Android green, like they do on the official distribution page, looks beautiful. Otherwise just stick to basic (white, yellow, blue, red, green) colors. Or, hey, why don't use google's logo colors at this point?
- Note: versions below <10% were put together in "earlier" as suggested, but really, re-adding those almost invisible 1.0% and 0.8% shouldn't be a problem anyway; as right now earlier is basically almost only Jelly Bean (9.1%) --Titore (talk) 10:06, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- I think using shades of Android green, like they do on the official distribution page, looks beautiful. Otherwise just stick to basic (white, yellow, blue, red, green) colors. Or, hey, why don't use google's logo colors at this point?
- I like your mockup, but i do have a few issues with it which i'd like to share: the colour scheme doesn't follow what we already have attributed to each version, i have a personal preference for pie charts going clockwise from the top (they're easier to measure with the eye), no version numbers included - which your average user will know better than the name of the version they have. Other than that i like it. A lot. It's simple and it doesn't include a long list of old versions, which is what made the old one hard to look at and like. PS. The green one is terrible. When you include multiple versions all in green it's going to be very confusing. Thanks ツ Jenova20 (email) 11:17, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Gingerbread (1%)
- Ice Cream Sandwich (0.8%)
- Jelly Bean (9.1%)
- KitKat (18.8%)
- Lollipop (32%)
- Marshmallow (31.2%)
- Nougat (7.1%)
- Well, the whole point of this discussion is to change the colors.
- The current chart already follows the same color scheme attributed to each version, exactly the same CSS color code, and it doesn't look great. I don't think Gingerbread and ICS were what made the chart look bad, but the colors used; see the new chart I made with them added back.
- The version numbers are not included because some code names summarize two or more version numbers, like it is on google's page; eg "Jelly Bean 9.1%" is actually 4.1 (3.2%) + 4.2 (4.6%) + 4.3 (1.3%). I personally would try to avoid crowding the cart, since alongside on the left there's already a table explaining what each code name's version number is, but it wouldn't be much of an issue adding those too.
- >I have a personal preference for pie charts going clockwise from the top
- I don't think we can control that on the current {{Pie chart}} template. What's funny is that on the italian wiki it works exactly as you said by default.--Titore (talk) 12:27, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Well, the whole point of this discussion is to change the colors.
First versions: Angel cake and Battenburg
Many websites say the sweets of the first two versions were Angel cake and Battenburg. Random example. But i can't find the source where this idea originated. It's obviously not from Google themselves, but the names are being used. Please leave your opinion if we should mention it with a remark like "Some people refer to the first two versions as Angel cake and Battenburg" PizzaMan (♨♨) 06:21, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
- No-one? I'm tempted to boldly add the proposed line. PizzaMan (♨♨) 19:58, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
- Well, I added them to the page, but if they are false information, feel free to undo my edit. – LR Guanzontce 03:13, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
- Reverted. These are not official codenames. See reference "A History of Pre-Cupcake Android Codenames". --Claw of Slime (talk) 08:53, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Simplify Version history by API level
Can someone help me/please change that section to individual templates per table similar to my sandbox? It would really help simplify the page. Thanks in advance! – LR Guanzontc 10:44, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
- Okay, gonna add it myself. – LR Guanzontce 07:29, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2017
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Amey khoje (talk) 05:49, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. SparklingPessimist Scream at me! 05:55, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
- @SparklingPessimist: Please be very careful. The sockpuppets that attacked this page are attacking this Talk page as well. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 06:03, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 15 October 2017
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I would like to add a screenshot for 7.1.1 to the android version history page. If you can do this for me, please give me your email and I will send you the file. 98.24.40.107 (talk) 13:26, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Not done: Please upload your photo to the commons and then make the request again with a link to the photo SparklingPessimist Scream at me! 17:36, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 15 October 2017
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I have a Wikimedia account now. here is the photo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Android_7.1.1_screenshot.png Alexstore06 (talk) 17:55, 15 October 2017 (UTC) Alexstore06 (talk) 17:55, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Not done: Something happened to the photo and the whole thing is not view able. SparklingPessimist Scream at me! 18:04, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2017
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Hopefully this file will work: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Screenshot_20171015-133245.png Alexstore06 (talk) 17:34, 16 October 2017 (UTC) Alexstore06 (talk) 17:34, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
Already done An equivalent image already appears to have been added. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:19, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
end of support
What are the dates for end of support for each Android version? The article only states "supported" or "unsupported," and the citations provided do not seem to make any clear references to which versions are supported or not, or when they reached their end of support. I could not find much on Google either, other than that feature development is apparently only supported for 18 months (though security updates continue to be supported for longer than that). Out of personal interest, I have an Android 5.0 phone, and I would like to be able to find out when it might reach end of support. I could estimate this if I knew the average length of time it took for previous versions to reach their end of support. Nicole Sharp (talk) 00:38, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Furthermore, Android's Security Updates and Resources page says the following:
When a security vulnerability in AOSP is fixed in an Android Security Bulletin, we'll notify Android partners of issue details and provide patches. The Android security team currently provides patches for Android versions 4.4 (KitKat) and above. This list of backport-supported versions changes with each new Android release.
So it seems 4.4 is still supported. 89.31.193.201 (talk) 10:21, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Linux kernel used
Why is kernel version not mentioned for almost half of the listed entries? Can we add that to the entries where it is missing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.62.80.98 (talk) 10:27, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
API 28 released
I think API 28 has been released. Its showing up as a full version in Android Studio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.164.200.98 (talk) 13:40, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Android 5 and 6 End of Life
Someone from a random assortment of chinese IPs is asserting that android 5 is supported through 2019 and 6 into 2020. Is there a source on that? Brockrob (talk) 13:01, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2018
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TI request a to edit the Android Pie section the article by adding a screenshot
Intoad2 (talk) 16:20, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Update Version distribution graph
Hi,
Is anyone able to produce an updated version graph? The current one is coming up to a year old and lot changes in that time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.74.70 (talk) 11:38, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
- Now it's mid November 2018, and the chart still show Feb 2018. Can anyone please update the chart? Rixn99 (talk) 15:07, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
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