Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2019 July 1
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- Harold Montgomery (history · last edit · rewrite) Another batch of presumptive deletion Billy Hathorn articles. 💵Money💵emoji💵💸 17:06, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- Jim Donelon (history · last edit · rewrite) presumptive billy deletion. 💵Money💵emoji💵💸 17:31, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- Joe Shell (history · last edit · rewrite) presumptive billy deletion 💵Money💵emoji💵💸 17:31, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- Chris Hazel (history · last edit · rewrite) more billy 💵Money💵emoji💵💸 17:31, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
Article deleted due to copyright concerns. 💵Money💵emoji💵💸 21:25, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- Meanings of minor planet names: 100001–101000 (history · last edit · rewrite) from Jet Propulsion Laboratory
- We have over 400 pages of Meanings of minor planet names that may have the same issue, so I picked the 100001–101000 example at random. For most of the entries, the description in the This minor planet was named for... column was copied or very closely paraphrased from the "JPL" source linked in the Ref · Catalog column. This was previously discussed at a tangentially related AfD where some editors felt it was a copyright violation while others argued that the data was "freely available from NASA" and not subject to copyright. JPL's copyright statements [1] [2] may be of use. –dlthewave ☎ 21:36, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- Simple phrases such as "This minor planet was named for <name>" cannot be copyrighted. I don't know how many entries fall outside this "simple" phrasing, but it's something to consider. Primefac (talk) 19:40, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Closely related to the above entry, List of minor planets consists of over 400 pages that attempt to reproduce the Minor Planet Center database. See copyright statements from sources JPL [3] [4] and MPL [5]. This was also discussed at AfD where some editors argued that raw data is not subject to copyright and that it comes from public-domain government sources. Please note that the data may have originated from private contractors and was not necessarily produced by NASA employees. –dlthewave ☎ 21:50, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- Not only is this an obvious copyright violation, but many of the entries we have copy-pasted are inaccurate and contradict our existing, better-written articles. NASA and other such bodies are not reliable sources for, for instance, classical Japanese literature and mythology.[6] The poor English on some of those entries implies NASA just took copy that had written by the planets' discoverers and regurgitated without any form of copy-editing, so we should definitely not be following suit. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 06:55, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- Even if a site is "public-domain government sources" and not subject to copyright there seems to be copy/paste issues that, as mentioned by @Primefac: as possibly falling "outside this "simple" phrasing", could mean there are unintended attrition issues and could still be considered plagiarism, that does need to be examined?. Otr500 (talk) 11:40, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- This discussion seems to be about the "Meanings of minor planet names" lists, not the lists of minor planets. Peter James (talk) 13:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- Even if a site is "public-domain government sources" and not subject to copyright there seems to be copy/paste issues that, as mentioned by @Primefac: as possibly falling "outside this "simple" phrasing", could mean there are unintended attrition issues and could still be considered plagiarism, that does need to be examined?. Otr500 (talk) 11:40, 9 July 2019 (UTC)