Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/LinuxDC++

LinuxDC++

Fails WP:SOFTWARE criteria. Unrelased port of DC++. Memmke 09:56, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, 837 non-wiki ghits. MER-C 10:49, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. --SunStar Net 11:05, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, passes WP:SOFTWARE since it is included in Debian Unstable [1] --GargoyleMT 13:34, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, actually, WP:SOFTWARE specifically lists Debian as a bad indicator of notability ("some distributions, such as Debian, include a particularly large number of packages. The more packages a distribution includes, the less notability is implied by inclusion in that distribution"). Xtifr _tälk 03:13, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment Which is why WP:SOFTWARE (or at least that section of it) is not a viable measure of notability. You can't say "It's notable if it's in Debian (but not if it's in Debian)" and expect people to use that as a suitable guideline. Also, in case anyone hasn't looked at it, WP:SOFTWARE is currently marked as a "draft" so I don't think using it as a basis for deletion is sound yet. --TheParanoidOne 06:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per GargoyleMT. qwm 17:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, It doesn't break any rules Douglish 23:06, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep it's in Debian and FreeBSD. I wouldn't consider 837 hits (852 now, perhaps it's growing ;) to be small for an open source project. The lack of a physical release doesn't mean that it is unstable and rarely used. A release is planned by the end of the year, regardless. Stevensheehy 23:11, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I've seen no compelling reason yet why it should be deleted. --TheParanoidOne 06:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Most criticisms of WP:SOFTWARE that I've seen involve it being too inclusive (especially the free-software clause). Yet you seem to be using its still-tentative status as a justification for being even more inclusive. In the absence of more specific guidelines, the general guideline that prevails in AfDs is non-trivial coverage by multiple reliable sources. If you're going to ignore WP:SOFTWARE (which, while somewhat controversial in parts, is usually well-received in AfD discussions), you should be providing more standard evidence of notability, not just saying, effectively, "keep 'cause I think it should be kept".
Merge to DC++, I see no reason why the Linux port needs its own separate article. I think any notability this product may have is independent of the platforms on which it may appear. Nor do I think the Linux port is different enough/unique enough to require a separate article. Xtifr _tälk 10:59, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per GargoyleMT. Nysin 19:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per GargoyleMT. --midkay 07:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, ~~possible merge into DC++~~ DC++ already says "LinuxDC++: a GNU/Linux port of DC++ with a GTK+ GUI" which is about all that can usefully be said about this project. It's 1) unreleased as yet 2) merely a port, not an independent product. Also lacks the independent non-trivial sources demanded by WP:SOFTWARE. Demiurge 11:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Although there are no packages available on the Download site, it is possible to download LinuxDC++ through CVS. Personally, I find "port" awkwardly put. Porting doesn't imply how much a software need to be changed to not be a port, but "half" (the GUI) of LinuxDC++ is written from scratch. Also, the porting article say "The term is not usually applied to the process of adapting software [...] [rewritten] to a different language (i.e., language conversion or translation)". LinuxDC++'s GUI is written with Gtk+, which is C, while the DC++ code (that LinuxDC++ uses) is C++. Ullner 12:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Addendum according to the Debian Popularity Contest suggested by WP:SOFTWARE, just 19 people (out of 19,796 people who participated in the survey) have installed the "linuxdcpp" package. So it looks like this isn't notable even among debian users. Demiurge 11:06, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment You forgot that it's being developed actively so people (including me) build it from source instead of using the package, and that the Debian popularity contest isn't particularly popular either. Pelzi 16:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as it is in FreeBSD too [2] which is a criterion as stated in WP:SOFTWARE. Also, it being one of the only two active Direct Connect clients for Linux (the other being Valknut), I see no reason to delete it. bheekling 07:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Note the possible sock puppet Douglish (seems to have registered the other day, no contributions to articles) and that Stevensheehy is the author of the program, WP:COI! Memmke 09:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. LinuxDC++ is the only one working/upcoming DC++ client for LinuxOS. It's more than a port from Windows. Yes, you can call me a 'sock puppet' too, but googling may reveal some of my works for FOSS in Russia and some opensource projects. I expect Wikipedia to listen to the user and developers thoughts. Pavlov Konstantin, Thresh 15:57, 24 November 2006 (UTC) This template must be substituted.[reply]
Keep. I know more than 3 users personally. LinuxDC++ is gaining popularity rapidly, and it is really a DC++ based client instead of just being a port of DC++ - the GUI is completely rewritten. Pelzi 16:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC) This template must be substituted.[reply]