Talk:Fixed-field alternating gradient accelerator

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LOL FFAG ACCELERATOR! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jros83 (talk • contribs) 09:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

is it Symon or Simon? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.148.227.250 (talk) 18:52, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

its K. R. Symon in the papers.--81.97.59.215 (talk) 15:49, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 April 2019

It has been proposed in this section that Fixed-field alternating gradient accelerator be renamed and moved to Fixed Field Accelerator.

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FFAG accelerator → Fixed Field Accelerator – The naming convention for these accelerators has been changed from FFAG to FFA. The wikipedia page name should reflect this. See https://twitter.com/davidkelliher/status/1113746714328956928 for a reference in a recent accelerator physics textbook reflecting this new convention. Boazhsan (talk) 00:27, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To add weight to the above move request, it should be noted that the workshop for the field, which previously went by the nomenclature FFAG<year> is, since last year, FFA<year> (FFAG18 website).--Davidkelliher (talk) 08:57, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The change in acronym has been taken up by the recent ICFA Beam Dynamics newsletter, #76, [1]. On page 10, they state: "Finally, the change of acronym to FFA (referring to Fixed-Field alternating gradient Accel- erators). The original acronym brought to mind a perjorative term used against members of the LGBT+ community. We have acknowledged this and followed organisations at SLAC and CERN and possibly elsewhere, that have changed their acronyms. Our Japanese colleagues have led the way in the accelerator world by labelling last year’s workshop FFA’18. I have accordingly tried to use “FFA” only throughout this Newsletter; of course, there should be no attempt to re-write history, so references to published works containing the old acronym remain unaltered. We have found it quite easy to make the change and if we can avoid causing offence at little or no cost to ourselves, there is no reason why we should not do it." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boazhsan (talk • contribs) 03:35, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose . I absolutely agree that the page should be moved to reflect the new acronym (FFA), but I don't think that "Fixed Field Accelerator" is the right destination page. As such I support a move but not this move. The sources listed above all seem to agree that they are called Fixed Field alternating gradient accelerator[s], so perhaps that should be the new page name, with FFA listed as the correct acronym on the page. Another option would be renaming the page to FFA (particle accelerator), or similar. In fact a redirect from one of those to the other would probably make sense too. It doesn't seem like they are anywhere referred to as simply "Fixed Field Accelerators" (although if they are, in sources I haven't seen, I'd reverse my position and support this move). Kronhjorten (talk) 11:15, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]