Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 January 9

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January 9

Non-free former logos in image gallery

Non-free former logos being used in an image gallery in Sat.1#Logos. Non-free files. are almost never allowed to be used in an image gallery per WP:NFG because the context for non-free use required by WP:NFCC#8 is almost never provided. A gallery of former logos, in particular, almost always just shows the logos without without any corresponding relevant sourced commentary about the evolution of the organization's branding, etc. provided in the article. This seems to be the case here.

It is, however, possible that these might be considered to be too simple to be eligible for copyright protection either as {{PD-logo}} or {{PD-ineligible-USonly}}. Two of the former logos being used in the gallery are File:Sat 1 Logo 1980.svg and File:Sat.1-mit-Namenszusatz.svg. The first file is a Commons file (PD-textlogo) and the other one is a local Wikipedia file (PD-ineligible-USonly). So, if the consensus is that the other former logos (as well as the infobox logo File:SAT.1 logo 2016.png) can be converted to either one of these licenses, then all the non-free content use issues will be resolved. The question is whether the 3D ball imagery falls below c:COM:TOO US; it's kinda close in my opinion, so I'd like to hear what some others think.

If none of these can be converted to a PD license, then they fail WP:NFC#cite_note-4, WP:NFCC#8 and even WP:NFCC#3a in the case of File:SAT.1 ball logo 2016.png since it's basically the infobox logo without the "Sat.1"; therefore, I suggest delete for all except the main infobox logo currently being used unless someone is able to address the non-free content use issues, particularly the WP:NFC#cite_note-4 problem for the former logos. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:34, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:Link Super Smash Bros Ultimate.png

Hello,

Editors discussed (in 2009, and in 2014) about the appropriate image for the character. The result is File:Link (Hyrule Historia).png since Link has different incarnations. There are now two images showing an adult Link. File:Link Super Smash Bros Ultimate.png does not indicate how it meets WP:NFCC#3a for this situation nor why its appropriate for the character to not be in his iconic green tunic. In response to the latest discussion, I would like further input. « Ryūkotsusei » 02:20, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, Link's Breath of the Wild incarnation isn't included in the collage image. Other characters with multiple incarnations, such as Zelda and Ganondorf, do not have a collage image for their article but rather an individual version. For the sake of consistency, Link should remain the same; keeping one in carnation as the hero image while showing the collage further down to indicate his different appearances solves that purpose while keeping the article visually cleaner and more consistent. Buh6173 (talk) 18:42, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:15, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]