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Hey, so wanted to raise this as there seems to be conflicting colours. The previous one in the template, 4A7729, was what I implemented in the days following the change from the original 00AB66, to the two tone scheme. It seems with the website refresh, the colour has changed again, but I'm also seeing two different colours. There's what Blaixx implemented, 256C2F, which is on GO's homepage and system map. I have also found 1F6C2E from the logo in GO's printable PDF timetables, 1D6C37 from this GO fact sheet. We could debate on which one to use, but page C-4 of the latest GO Design Requirements Manual (amendment record) identifies the GO colour as "Pantone 364C", which translates to 74, 119, 41 in RGB and 4A7729 in hex (the original I implemented). I'm of the opinion that we should be going off of this official design manual, it's the most official source out of all of them, but wanted to discuss first before reverting. --NaturalRX16:34, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As per my comment below, the TfL discussion did not deal with pantone colours and their implications. I believe that GO's homepage is the most official source that provides actual RGB values for use on the web. BLAIXX23:57, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for bringing this up for discussion and for linking GO's design manual. You bring up some good points but I don't think we should use that Pantone value here. Pantone values in general are only used for print specifications and in the context of the design manual it seems to be applied specifically to signage and not universally. It also seems to me that Pantone to RGB conversion is only approximate and should not be considered official. My second point is that GO's style guide was last updated in February 2017, where as GO's current website c. 2018 is the most recent publication so perhaps that carries more weight. BLAIXX23:57, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You have a point about the Pantone, I didn't realize the variations. A good equivalent example is the Flag of Canada, which identifies Pantone 285 as the official red colour, and that is 218, 41, 28 in RGB or DA291C in hex. But when you display it in print, it also says the colour is actually 255, 0, 0 in RGB or FF0000 in hex. So I tried to find some equivalent differing spec in the DRM, no luck. What I did find on page 17 of the static signage manual was that Pantone 364C is still described as the primary dark green, but when you convert it as it's displayed digitally in the PDF, it works out to 0, 125, 29 in RGB and 007d1d in hex. So I don't know if you guys would consider that as "official", but it's the best official source I can find. That manual is also circa March 2018. --NaturalRX14:43, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I still have issue with that document describing colours used in physical signage and not general purpose branding. Additionally I don't know if I consider that digital representation in the document to be official as it may have only be intended to be a rough visual to what the Pantone value is. In addition, I think the most important consideration for choosing colours for this template is how recognizable and familiar it is (not necessarily how official it is). I personally think the shade used on gotransit.com is the most familiar while also being deliberately used by Metrolinx. BLAIXX22:06, 9 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
But I would think that "a rough visual to what the Pantone value is" is what we're going for, the rough visual of the colour that is on signage and vehicles. We're not trying to mock the website, which may have colour choices that are optimized for all of the pages and elements of the site. As for what's "most familiar", we are debating slight shades of green now, aren't we? I was hoping to agree on the shade that says it is the official colour, but is displayed digitally, and is a bit brighter than a colour we grabbed from the website, and has multiple variations. --NaturalRX20:34, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]