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Your submission at Articles for creation: Musicinfo (June 18)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Firefly was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Significant independent coverage does not appear to exist.

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ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 00:10, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, BridgeScript! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 00:10, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Musicinfo

Hei,

Sain sähköpostisi. Miten nuo suomenkieliset lähteet pitää tarkistaa, mitä sivun tarkastaja haluaa tietää niistä? JIP | Talk 19:30, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Moi, firefly haluaisi vahvistuksen sille, että lähteet tukevat artikkelin väitteitä (suomenkielisiä niistä siis vain kaksi), ja että ne vastaavat wikipedian laatuvaatimuksia.BridgeScript (talk) 07:46, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Musicinfo (October 24)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by K.e.coffman was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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K.e.coffman (talk) 00:45, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Musicinfo

Hi, you appear to have sent me an email. I prefer to communicate on Wiki, so if you could post your questions here, I'd be glad to respond (I did not want to repost it publicly without your permission). --K.e.coffman (talk) 22:57, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Right! So the message and the question is this: Can you exactly pinpoint those references that do not meet Wikipedia standards for independent coverage? I believe the subject's notability itself is hardly open to debate, as it has been mentioned in high profile secondary sources (e.g., Finland's national public broadcasting company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yle)

Your colleague "Firefly" who demanded changes to the article's first version said this of the above mentioned reference: "That source you linked is a good one, and would go a long way toward showing notability. I'd recommend working material referenced to it into the article."

And so I have done.

If the problem is that it's a company-related article, I'd like to draw attention to the fact that many companies similar to Musicinfo have articles published about them on Wikipedia, with similar references.

DistroKid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DistroKid
Horus Music https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus_Music
TuneCore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TuneCore
CD Baby https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD_Baby

Do you categorically object to the article being published, or do you want changes to the references?

--BridgeScript (talk) 08:39, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pls note an article in mainspace does not mean it has met the requirement of Wikipedia and it should not take it as the benchmark article but one should seek to meet the guidelines of what is required. Guidelines for corporations have been significantly tightened in the past couple of years; the current guidelines are at WP:NCORP.

Secondly, any articles in the main space in Wikipedia could subject for nomination of AfD (articles for deletion) it the nominator deem the article fall the notability guidelines. When I reviewed the Musicinfo page, I concluded that the subject does not meet the current guidelines for notability. A company of 15 employees rarely does; the awards listed are trivial; and the coverage is in passing and / or self-promotional. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:35, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alright mate, I suggest looking into those nominations of AfD's fast in the case of a lot of companies here, or some might claim this game is unfair. BridgeScript (talk) 09:27, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome to ask for a second opinion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. Please link to this discussion if you do. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:04, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks! BridgeScript (talk) 09:19, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]